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  1. Ratcliff

    AoS 2 - Skaventide Discussion

    It works well in your head, but in practice, running Monks up the board en masse will lose you a lot of games. They can only move 6" and work better as a counter-punch army. Going second is actually better for them in a lot of scenarios, especially against a heavy hitting army that can lay waste to you with one double turn. Not to mention missions like Places of Arcane Power that are reliant on heroes and wizards for pointscoring. Plague Monks are an unbelievable, heavy hitting unit but, as I mentioned, taking them in the numbers you suggest means they will be fulfilling other roles they are unsuited to and their area of efficiency is wasted in most cases. As with any good footslogging army, it's about balanced unit selection, good screening and zoning, picking your charges wisely and retreating at the right times. A good player would wreck 5 blobs of 40
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    AoS 2 - Skaventide Discussion

    Tbf, I can see their utility at 1000pts, but I'm not convinced of their usefulness after that. 80pts for a character that doesn't have any way of buffing your own army and only a 13" threat range. I'm going to to throw one or two into my list and see if I'm terribly wrong!
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    AoS 2 - Skaventide Discussion

    I play pure Pestilens and, while they are powerful, I don't think they are OP and won't be troubling the podiums any time soon (though you will see a lot of Plague Monks podium in mixed Skaven lists). They are efficient at what they do, which is put out a load of pain from up close in large numbers for a very low cost. However, if you are running them in their hundreds, you won't get anywhere close to optimising that function. You will have to screen with at least 40 of them and set aside a few more to protect your own objectives. Clanrats are far better and more points efficient for those 2 latter roles. Some people seem to make the mistake of seeing Sigmar as a purely output driven game, in which case you would consider Plague Monks pretty close to perfect. But you lose all sorts of flexibility. No WLCs or jezzails to take out characters, no tough chaff to hold fiercely contested objectives, v little speed or ability to get around the board and, in reality, we only have 3 good units now. And of them, even the Corruptor is just an amazing spell in an average unit, and the Furnace needs rats to push it around. The Plagueclaw is probably the biggest waste of 160pts you'll find in the game, and Plague Priests have become useless overnight. Wither and rabid fever are gone as we knew them and Plague Monks put out, on average, a fair bit less damage now, particularly in low model units. We're still very good, but far from overpowered
  4. Ratcliff

    AoS 2 - Clan Pestilens Discussion

    It's also quite pointless. What do you need to wound 183 times?
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    AoS 2 - Clan Pestilens Discussion

    Yep, spellportal for dreaded plague, it was a really useful combo for me. The most trouble I had was in my draw against another Skaven army. It was Starstrike, so it was a cagey game waiting for the objectives to drop. I had no way of hurting him at range, while he had guns and WLCs. The game I lost was against Stormcast. It was actually my first ever game against a Stormcast army, and I think I would have done a lot better had I known more about their units and synergies. But he was a v good player, and punished my errors well The only reason I had blades was because they were already built that way. Blades used to be better and far easier to batch paint. I'm also still not convinced staves are better anyway. They definitely are in completely optimised situations, but I have yet to find myself in such a situation. Blades are better all rounders imo
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    GT Heat 1 at WHW

    2nd place was Gary's mixed Skaven list. Used a warp lightning cannon and 9 jezzails, with Thanqol, clanrats and Plague Monks. It was a very good list and he used it very well. I'm not sure about the 6th placed list. I came 26th with a Pestilens list, though I lost out heavily on soft scores, 11 people with less victory points finished ahead of me (NOT THAT I'M BITTER), but Skaven did very well overall and the general feeling is that there is a lot of potential in the tome. I don't think anyone used Stormfiends
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    AoS 2 - Clan Pestilens Discussion

    Allegiance: PestilensLeadersPlague Priest on Plague Furnace(180)- Artefact: Liber Bubonicus Verminlord Corruptor (260)Verminlord Warpseer (260)- General- Trait: Master of Magic - Artefact: Suspicious Stone BattlelineUnits40 x Plague Monks (240)- Foetid Blades40 x Plague Monks (240)- Foetid Blades20 x Plague Monks (140)- Foetid Blades20 x Plague Monks (140)- Foetid Blades20 x Plague Monks (140)- Foetid Blades20 x Plague Monks (140)- Foetid BladesBattalionsCongregation of Filth (160)Endless SpellsGeminids of Uhl-Gysh (40)Umbral Spellportal (60)Total: 2000 / 2000Extra Command Points: 1Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 197
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    AoS 2 - Clan Pestilens Discussion

    Played in heat 1 at the weekend, came 26th (yes-yes) with a 3-1-1 record. Slightly disappointed not to finish higher but had a great weekend and learned a lot. Got to play Gary Percival's Skaven and delighted that he nabbed second place with his rats. Roll on September!
  9. Ratcliff

    AoS 2 - Beastclaw Raiders Discussion

    He likes writing weird lists and seeing how far he can take them. Genuinely reckon he would podium if he was in any way interested in taking a top tier faction. Which he's not
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    AoS 2 - Beastclaw Raiders Discussion

    He took Huskard on Stonehorn, Fungoid Shaman, 3 units of 4 mournfang, Stonehorn, Joralbad battallion and geminids. He's a very good player
  11. Ratcliff

    AoS 2 - Skaventide Discussion

    It's clear mate. Let it go
  12. Ratcliff

    AoS 2 - Skaventide Discussion

    Don't think that would even matter tbh, it's a legit GW model, a tiny bit more height on the base and nobody can complain
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    AoS 2 - Clan Pestilens Discussion

    Played a one day tournament yesterday and achieved my first ever podium finish. Won 3/3 and bagged third place. Absolutely chuffed. New tome took away a lot of my favourite things, but got some boosts in much needed areas, particularly the resilience and damage potential of HQ units and some great battleshock immunity. My list below with summary of matches: LeadersPlague Priest on Plague Furnace(180)- Artefact: The Ragged Cloak Verminlord Corruptor (260)Verminlord Warpseer (260)- General- Trait: Master of Magic- Artefact: Ethereal Amulet Battleline40 x Plague Monks (240)- Foetid Blades40 x Plague Monks (240)- Foetid Blades20 x Plague Monks (140)- Foetid Blades20 x Plague Monks (140)- Foetid Blades10 x Plague Monks (70)- Foetid Blades10 x Plague Monks (70)- Foetid Blades10 x Plague Monks (70)- Foetid Blades10 x Plague Monks (70)- Foetid BladesBattalionsCongregation of Filth (160)Endless SpellsGeminids of Uhl-Gysh (40)Umbral Spellportal (60)Total: 2000 / 2000Extra Command Points: 1Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 197 Game 1: Border War v LoN Never played against the big guy before and it was tough. Got extremely lucky, the only Nagash spells I managed to dispel were his Umbral Spellportals, every turn. They could have facilitated horrendous damage if I hadn't. My opponent also made a mis step which allowed me to storm on to his objective for 4 points mid game. Lucky too, because he slowly gained control of a board side and I only won by two points in the end Game 2: Better Part of Valor v Dispossessed: A real grind this one. All his men were on objectives in cover, giving him 3+ rerollable saves ignoring rend. He hadn't much in the way of offence after my Corruptor used a spell portal to cast dreaded plague on his shooty unit, wiping out more than half of them. Basically threw rank after rank of plague monks at him to dislodge him off one objective, giving me the edge and the win. Game 3: Starstrike v Gloomspite Gitz Let him go first, reckoned a double turn would be extremely advantageous and was right . Used Dreaded Plague to evaporate most of his Goblins through the portal, and held on to the middle objective for a couple of turns with my dear life using the warpseer and Monks. Narrow win in the end. Very pleased with how it went, though still have to fix my list a little ahead of the WHW heats this weekend.
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    Plague Monks loadout?

    Stave is probably best now, but blades are much easier to paint. So blades
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