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I was actually thinking a long the same lines upon this reveal. I wonder if the Legions was just a big placeholder, as it was pretty much Death while over the course of the years the Death Factions get fleshed out more. I would actually end up preferring this, as I have waxed poetic a few times on how difficult it is to balance Nighthaunt, since you are in a sense balancing 3 different armies, and the main Nighthaunt book gets the shaft. If this is the case then we could look forward to book that would be Vampire and Necromancer focused. This is all pure speculation, but I was thinking along similar lines.

Doesn't look likely at this point, though it would be nice.

They are looking pretty awesome. This is a nice large release, and with the inclusion of Arkhan and the Morghasts should have plenty of options.

It's pretty cool that Arkhan is a part of the army. I like everything I am seeing more and more. Hopefully this means we will get some rule leaks soon.

This is what I would suspect as well. I just hope they can get the shooting points right, which seems like it has been a challenge for GW in AOS so far!

I wonder what the points cost is going to be for them. Are they going to be similar to Celestars, so that we can have four blasting the battlefield, or more expense so that we only get 1 or 2 on the table at a time.

This seems like the best time to fit them in. I sure hope they come out with them now. Still a bit surprised they are not getting endless spells and faction terrain.

The reality is that the battletome is probably in the worst shape of all 2.0 battletomes, so if you are bringing a crunchy list to a tourney, you have very limited options in Nighthaunt. I love putting Kurdoss and some of my other beautiful models on the battlefield like anyone else, but if I am going to a tourney to win I know that my options are much more limited.

After Kurdoss turned out to be the fighty one in Nighthaunt, I don't judge on appearances if they are going to be fighty or casty heroes!

They said no Terrain and endless spells for Orruk and CoS?

Yeah, I am sure the Morgahsts will be included in it.

I'm pretty excited so far. I like that the Death Faction really molds everything together, and I can't wait to expand on my NH!

I mean, at this point everyone knows that the armies without a book are in bad shape. There is no reason to beat the drum constantly about it.

Yeah, I am glad they are not taking too long after release to get these.

This feels pretty accurate to me. I imagine the other half is going to be a "Deathrattle"ish army. The Skeleton models are really old, and the Skeleton warband points to some pretty good looking models. As much as I would love them to bring back half the tomb king lineup, since I have an entire tub bubblewrapped and stored away, I don't think it's ever going to happen.

1/2 Splintered Fangs/Untamed Beasts 3/4/5 Corvus/Unmade/Cypher lords 6 Iron Golems Splintered Fangs are my favorite. I love the aesthetic, and I hope we see some more stuff in line with it. Really, the only one that feels a bit lackluster is the iron golems. I think with all the cool models that are KO style, they could have done a lot more cool stuff with the Iron Golems. They just seem super generic.

Anyone know when the digital points are supposed to drop?

Cogs went to 80, Geminids to 60. As for the points, I have to say it's pretty disappointing. I think we needed some steeper drops. I would have liked both the GoS and Spirit Torment to have gone down 20 each.

Yeah, I think making the Legion of Grief be the nighthaunt faction in LoN, and then Nighthaunt/LoN being allies to the rest of the armies in LoN is really the only way to fix it. Then they are only really balancing two armies, instead of 3.

I think the main issue is unlike any army, GW is really balancing 3 armies with Nighthaunt. LoN, LoG and Nighthaunt. This makes balance, ridiculously hard. As we know, Grimghasts were fine in NH, but broken in LoN. Now they have to balance points to account for LoG as well. As long as this exists in this current form, I think Nighthaunt will likely never be balanced as a solo tome.

I still don't get T. revs being priced at 80 points for five, I was sure they were going to get a point drop or major rules change.

I mean, this at least had to be expected right? It's how all the other 2.0 battletomes had been written. I'm going to let all the Sylvaneth super generals figure everything out, but Winterleaf looks really good to me.

It really doesn't feel like it to me. Most of the books besides Fec/Skaven this year (barring gloomspite) seem pretty close to each other, with those two being absurdly strong. That being said I am still anticipating pretty massive points drops for a lot of the earlier armies.

I imagine there has to be some kind of limit to summoning, otherwise it will be lopsided in some armies favor at 1k points.

Warscroll changes would be fantastic. They've seemed a bit hesitant to do that too much so far, but it would be nice.