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Hey @Gobsmakka where did you find the points for the Rogue Idol? It's an awesome model. Do you find it to be worth the points? 400 is a lot.

Thanks for the advice guys/gals. My first batch of WAAAGH!!! crazed orruks are in the mail. One more noob question. The 6+ save the you get for Bonesplitterz allegiance. Is that on all wounds (a save after the save) like the DoK get or just on Mortal Wounds?

Thanks @Oreaper84! One more noob question. How do you get a unit of big stabbas? I don't see them for sale anywhere.

Hey Bonesplitterz Any suggestions for a noob to the savage orruks? I love Greenskinz (both grots and orruks), but I found the Ironjawz a little slow and to elite. If I'm playing Greenskinz I want a horde of bodies charging around and getting stuck in. I've heard that the arrow boys were nerfed and my local meta includes Deepkin so I don't think focus too much on range. Would would be balanced 1,000 point starter list that can do a bit of range damage/bodies for objectives, has some speed, and a decent amount of magic? Any advice would be welcome! ...oh and WAAAGH!!!

I keep hearing that Grots (Moonclan) are coming in either November or January. As much as I would like to believe it, it seems like nothing but hot air to me. Can anyone prove otherwise?

If you're playing Hagg Nar I would suggest a Cauldron. Getting your units on a 4+ or 5+ save with the bloodshield and then a 5+ save after the save is unbelievably good. It makes your hard hitting, but squishy witches, snakes and sisters tanks that can outlast all but the toughest armies and benefit from the more powerful blood rites in the later turns.

Ok, after reading @Jais suggestions and finding my slaughter queen on the cauldron effective, but a bit slow, I have decided to move away from the two towers build I had been going for. I'm now going to try a tower and Morathi build similar to Nick Thompson's list from AoS GT. Hag Narr Slaughter Queen on cauldron (general) - crimson rejuvenation - devoted disciples Hag queen - blessing of Khaine - iron circlet Morathi - mindrazor 20 Blood Sisters 20 Witch Aelves 10 Witch Aelves 10 Witch Aelves 5 Khinerai 5 Doomfire Warlocks - shroud of despair The killing and holding power of army are in the the SQC, Snakes, and Hag. I'll use Morathi and the Warlocks to further buff them and then either use them to kill or hold off the most powerful enemy units. I'll also change Morathi immediately to preserve wounds and use her grab objectives or pin down the most powerful units of the enemy so my killing force can catch them move them off the objectives. The Witch Aelves provide board presence and will work to screen or pin enemy units and hold objectives. I've built all of them with Buckers, so even outside of the SQC's bloodshield they can hold for a turn against smaller units. The Khinerai are simply there for tactical emergencies. Once my Morathi and the rest of my Snakes show up I'll let you know how it works.

Interesting. I wonder if that would be a complement or replacement for the colossal squig. I REALLY want new squig models.

Same here! That is one army i'll play even if they're horrible. Really, I just want some new plastic squig models, and maybe a decent troll.

I'm very late to this party, but I want to echo the complements above. Amazing work! The Arknaut rune priest is particularly impressive.

I hope it's Moonclan too, but the consensus is that it's Slaanesh. I can't wait for Moonclan. I love the more absurd armies. My knife wielding ladies in bikinis are pretty awesome, but the not have that moon clan silliness.

That's not a bad idea. I do like my Cauldrons, particularly the SQ. Having access to both prayers and the bloodshield is pretty hard to give up. What sort of list do you run?

Does anyone play Snake focused builds? If so what are they? Does anyone know what Nick Thompson's snakes list that took 6th spot at the AoS GT final was? I'm currently building out my army and debating getting more witches or and another cauldron or going a different direction.

I'm with @Overread. It would be nice if GW reworked the battalions to make them more like the temples, enclaves, etc. Meaning that they give you an ability, but come with some restrictions and costs. I think the DoK battalions are actually reasonably structured in that they focus on units that work well together, but their cost is pretty high for what you get unless you are trying to keep drops down. Personally, I like the Khinerai models, but they are annoying to carry around and move into and out of combat with their wings. As has already been said, they have a lot of tactical flexibility, but they are SUPER fragile.

I keep hearing about a nerf to the Daughters of Khaine. Does anyone have any concrete knowledge of any coming nerfs? I'm new AoS and GW generally, so I'm not sure how nerfs usually get implemented. Points changes? Ability changes? FAQs to the BT? I ask since I'm in the middle of building up a DoK army. I like that they are competitive, but mostly I love having an army of angry murder ladies in bikinis stabbing zombie dragons and hulked out orruks to death with daggers. AoS is freaking awesome!

If you are going with Hagg Nar I suggest picking up Blessing of Khaine (re-roll fanatical faith rolls). It synergizes well with Devoted Disciples which makes your fanatical faith a 5 up. I also usually take crimson rejuvenation for my Slaughter Q on C. She is so much more effective near full health that it's worth it. I've built a similar DoK 1K army Hagg Nar Leaders Slaughter Queen on Blood Cauldron (General) - 330pts CT - Devoted Disciples CA - Orgy of Slaughter P - Crimson Rejuvenation Hag Queen - 60pts P - Blessing of Khaine A- Iron Circlet (I like knowing that I should get at least one prayer off) Battleline 20 Witch Aelves w/ Bucklers - 200pts 10 Witch Aelves w/ Bucklers - 100pts Units 5 Doomfire Warlocks - 160pts 5 Khinerai Heartrenders - 80pts 1 command point Total: 980pts As you can guess I'm building towards a two tower build designed around the Cauldron Guard battalion. That will be a 2k army with the above, a Hag on Cauldron, a Hag, 2 x 30 WAs and 1 KH plus the Cauldron Guard battalion. My choices for the prayers and WA equipment are built around trying to make them at tough as possible. With the combination of bloodshield and the bucklers I can get my WAs on a 4 up save and one of them on a 5 up FF save on all wounds. So far I have only played a couple of games (lost both due to tactical stupidity), but my WAs easily make it to T4/T5 where the Blood rites table really shines. If you want a break down of bucklers vs daggers check out @Overread math hammer on it. It is excellent. The up shot is that buckers help quite a bit with survival, but are only offensively effective in large units. I plan on running this two towers build until the DoK's get nerfed and then I'll go back to the drawing board and mix in some snakes or a Morathi. ...or maybe pick up the shadow aelves if they are out by then.

Hey Dan, where do you play in Ottawa? I'm just getting into AoS and looking for more places to play.

Very pretty! Particularly the bases. I'm just starting on a DoK army too and I want to do a Witch horde army, but the painting required is intimidating.

Really? FTW Warhammer! What's the point of tweaking battletomes in the GHBs if those aren't right. Sighhhhh.

It's worth noting that Morrsarr's got cheaper in GHB18. They are now the same as the Ishleans. Personally, I've pretty much gone all in on eels on the premise that you are better off doing one thing really well than a bunch of things ok. That said I've never played tournaments and meta here in Ottawa is not very magic heavy.

It's on warhammer tv at the end of the PSA about sprues.

Very cool! I really hope this means new shadow aelves are following soon after.

I just got into AoS this summer so my collection is still pretty small. It's an expensive hobby, but I've found the building and painting surprisingly fun. ...not as fun as fighting battles, but more fun than I expected. Deepkin 1x Akhelian King 1x Tidchaster 1x soulscryer 6x Ishlaen guard 9x Morrsarr gard 2x Allopexes (sharks) 1x Loviadon (giant turtle) 1x Reavers (i've only used them for a PtG campaign) 1x Shipwreck When I started with AoS I also picked up the Ironjawz since I had enjoyed the orks in Warhammer: total war. But I don't really like how they play. I much prefer the speed and hitting power of the Deepkin. Plus Aelves on sea monsters are just plain cooler models. Ironjawz 1x maga boss on foot 1x warchanter 1x nob shaman 1x ardboyz 2x brutes 1x gore gruntas ...I'm planning sell off my Ironjawz if I can though, so they won't be in my collection for long. I'll be adding a Elidon and probably start collecting Daughters of Khaine or shadow aelves if they come out anytime soon. I plan on focusing on Aelves since they seem to have some of the coolest models and are good combat armies (at least so far). I haven't finished painting my Deepkin yet, but here is one of my eels.

Sorry man, I won't have my box till Sunday.