The Red King

So I didn't see anybody mentioning it so maybe I'm wrong but the Nomad Prince "harrying birds of prey" ability says "...within 18" of THIS model" not "18" of ANY model" like the kharibdys. So am I correct in assuming you could stack the debuff as many times as you have Princes within 18? It's not super important but I could see running 2 nomad princes with one as your warlords adjutant or what's it just to stack on -2 to cast or more importantly slap it on some big scary monster hero that wants to crash into your lines.

If you want to play sylvaneth/ stormcast and that's a big if for a lot of people. I should say despite my gloom I DO play sylvaneth. Here's hoping the wanderers warscrolls make them more worth bringing.

They are not. They are "memories of the ancient guardians" so they are the trees memories of elves which is just silly when the entire wood elf line is RIGHT THERE and GW are just like "oh woah and weal if ONLY there were SOME elves to help the sylvaneth! Alas! Alas!" Stupid.

So the Kurnothi are Sylvaneth and I think this may be the death knell of Wanderers and AoS for me.

Don't forget you can kit bash an extra dryad with the branchwych to get a branchwraith if you want (pretty much swap the arms and maybe add some more branches and flock)

I was a little confused about your caster comments. I was like "dang I know the Branchwych is bad but is she a literal non unit on the table?" I'm fairly new to Sylvaneth. I moved around some of the spells with regrowth on the TLA and I could probably put verduous on the wych, It's just a hard cast for someone with no casting buffs so I liked it better on the branchwraith which doesn't HAVE to stay miles away from the front if I can protect her. So against non-lfying factions I can screen. I like the sword hunters but may consider some way to proxy or maybe magnetize the weapons so I can run a 6 man scythe unit in winterleaf sometime. Trust me keeping Durthu healthy is one of my prime goals. The hope is to hide him from LoS of anything long ranged and scary with trees and then use regrowth and nurtured by magic to hopefully keep him going. Heartwood hasn't really been on my radar but I'll give it another look and yeah Harvestboon is a serious contender in my mind but I feel like I just like Gnarlroot better for some reason I can't place. I appreciate that synopsis and hope I can use chaff screens to pick fights on my terms. I'm not super familiar with the local meta but I don't think there's much HoS and they changed FEC's ASF to only in their turn right?

In order the TLA is the general which is why I gave him the easy to cast regrowth though I know that's not as good as the chalice or the gem I don't consider getting the warlord trait to go off every turn to be a requirement. The branchwraith is always going to have the issue of being torn between summoning and whatever other spell she's given, I almost consider her 2nd spell to be non-existent with the 30 dryads I'm bringing for summoning and maybe I'm over valuing the free units but the consistency of summoning is one of my biggest draws to Gnarlroot. I appreciate that the VG is THE option to pick but my issue with it is that there isn't a deep woods lore spell I want to cast every turn and I'm more likely to cast "awaken the woods" from the TLA than anything else due to low MW output in this list. I feel that way in general about the gem, our spell lore isn't bad but the warscroll spells are often better in my mind and the gem does nothing for them. The Branchwych is also there to be a frontline caster even if shes not the toughest caster she's not hard to hide either. I have considered tree song instead on her, an idea that is much more appealing if I change glades but the RR on wounds isn't wasted either way. I hope all of that wasn't too argumentative as I do appreciate that feedback. That said I do not have another caster to add to the list so which glade do you think better fits the list? I've considered winterleaf but I don't feel like my list has enough weight of attacks for the 6's nor a suitable target for the kernel. I also don't dislike Harvestboon but it feels like a more situational RR 1's than Gnarlroot, I do like it's command ability better and could double up with the arch rev but again I'm not sure my list has a unit that's really designed to benefit from the glad (something like a 6 man scythe hunter unit), and I trade out reliable summoning for... the silent sickle. I can certainly try out a few different configurations.

So I'm considering going to my first local tourney with Sylvaneth and wanted some thoughts on the list. My model selection is a bit limited so I guess it would be more fair to ask for general weaknesses in the list so I know where my strengths lie. Gnarlroot Free spirits batallion Treelord ancient - nurtured by magic - regrowth Arch revenant Branchwraith - verduous harmony - chalice of nectar Spirit of Durthu - Ghyrstrike Branchwych - the dwellers below Dryads×20 T Revs×5 T Revs×5 Kurnoth hunters w/ sword ×3 Kurnoth hunters w/ sword ×3 Kurnoth hunters w/ bows ×3 Changes I can make are in artifacts and spells. I have 30 more dryads and 5 more T Revs as well as 3 more sword wielding Kurnoth hunters. Any thoughts on strengths/ weaknesses of the list?

Oooof I'm a little late here but I have painted 5 tree remnants and one out of 3 kurnoth hunters just yesterday so if you'll excuse my basing (it and flock will be added after the whole army is tabletop colored when I'll add some extra shades and dry brushes) I should be able to commit to painting 5 tree revs, 3 hunters, and 1 treelord ancient ready to post by Wednesday!

Well I would of course not suggest you leave them on the same base... scenic bases and maybe add some feathered wings (dark eldar scourge kit) to bring their height up and put them more in line with the kurnothi beast elves. Or just high scenic bases if that's what you prefer.

Dishonor on my family! I forgot glade guard because I've run sisters as long as I've been in the army. For shame. Anyway on the subject of decent heroes I don't expect any new profiles so what we have is what we get sadly

So as much as I don't want to think about it with the new book on the horizon and 5 of our meager warscrolls ripped from us, what's everyones plan for their discontinued models? I know I for one won't be rewarding GW for this move with more sales and I've got a nicely converted spellsinger and waywatcher that are just going to get real good at math because they're gonna "count as" super hard. So far Spellsinger - easy battlemage Waywatcher- knight venator ? Waystrider- knight questor? Wayfinder- also knight Venator? Just trying to figure out hoe to keep using models I love that fit with my army without giving GW the satisfaction of trying to force me to buy their crappy "not" space marines.

Let's make a Facebook group and get enough people together in an "Order rebellion" group going until GW has to acknowledge us lol.

Thinking of going with a horde approach as I dont own any eels. Namarti banner Namarti thrall×7 Namarti reaver×4 1000 points exactly. Though I do lose access to our best abilities and will be looking to add at least one prince when I can. Final list will probably be Morsarr prince Morsarr guard Thralls×3 Reaver×4 In that list I can swap a morsarr guard to a Lothian guard and swap one reaver for a thrall. Not sure though.

That's an optimistic take... we knew they would still be usable until the next GHB when they move them to legacy...

I fear the kurnothi may be a ways off and the Cities book will be meant to keep our mouths too full of scraps to complain until they deign to toss us a bone.

I was almost optimistic for a whole page lol.

So wood elves as we know them are squatted then. If we're lucky we get rolled into kurnoth, if not we languish with CoS as "our book" to make room in the design space for more stormcast...

Oops I meant wild riders lol

I think they just need headswaps. Imagine those models with the heads off kurnoth hunters. Also the centaur is beautiful.

Ah I said it first but you said it better. I forgot about chaos' grabbag approach and Stormcast being in the cities of Sigmar book itself and I GUARANTEE they'll have a new book soon.

I see cities of Sigmar the same way as Lethis. I mean a lot of the death units are in multiple books so no reason we should be stuck in the city with our WANDERERS lol

That's safe to say it's not a guarantee but this seems to me fairly likely to be our DoK style reinvention. Maybe I'm just hopeful but I havent been that in a while about AoS so let me have my dreams lol

The tail with the bladed tip? Oh confused it with the lion tail my bad.

As is the centaur tail.