Tizianolol Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Hi all, I m not sure what list is better for tournaments so I decided to ask u, bacause I'm not so expert list 1 durthu 400 (item 2) treelord ancient 300 ( trait 3,item 4) branchwich 100 ( arcane item 1) 20 dryads 240 5 tree revenant 100 5 tree revenant 100 3 kurnoth hunters (bow) 180 3 kurnoth hunters (bow) 180 treelord 260 household battalion 20 gnarloot battalion 80 tot 1969 List 2 Ancient treelord 300 ( trait 3,item 4) branchwich 100 ( arcane item 1) 20 dryads 240 10 tree revenant 200 5 tree revenant 100 3 khournos hunt (bow) 180 3 kournos hunt ( bow) 180 3 kournos hunt (gs) 180 treelord 260 treelord 260 household 20 gnarloot 80 tot 2000 in both list sylvaneth alliance what do u prefer?:) thx all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nico Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 The first list is quite a bit better. Dryads are your friend. If you can replace the Treelord with another unit of Kurnoth Hunters and a unit of Tree Revenants, that would be slightly better (and pretty much the middle of the road default Sylvaneth army). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler1906 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 I like the first list as well, I actually ran something very similar here was my list Branchwych 100 Treelord Ancient 300 Spirith of Durthu 400 20 Dryads 240 10 dryads 120 5 tree revenants 100 kurnoth hunters (bow) 180 kurnoth hunter (bow) 180 Kurnoth hunter Scythe 180 Household 20 Gnarlroot 80 Freespirit 40 Total 1940.. I wanted the Alpha strike and it worked against a Death army Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tizianolol Posted November 17, 2016 Author Share Posted November 17, 2016 Ye guys, I think Tyler list is pretty mutch what I can modify. the only question is: better 10 dryads( maybe for protect something , or 5 tree revenant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler1906 Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 The unit of Revenants will be needed for the Gnarlroot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler1906 Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 Also let me clarify..lol. I got the alpha strike off with Durthu only but the Kurnoths Scyhthes rolled a 1 to navigate the realmroots..lol. I pumped 6 wounds into Arkhan. The thing that really happened that hurt death was, Durthu had the oakenarmour with mystic shield, with the ancients command ability. Basically he was a 2+ rerolling 1's tarpit...lol. He did get Cursed of years down to 1 wound, but before he died he took out Arkhan and the army general. The Scythes almost destroyed unit of 20 skeletons in one turn. The eventually died too. But the end result was a Major victory for the trees on the Gift from Heavens scenarios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tizianolol Posted November 18, 2016 Author Share Posted November 18, 2016 In my list idk if play 5 ravenant 5 ravenant 20 dryads or 5 ravenant 10 dryads 20 dryads:) what do u think ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigwarus Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 Get a loremaster to make the most of Durthu. I have had a lot of success with that combo in a gnarlroot list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aezeal Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 8 hours ago, Tizianolol said: In my list idk if play 5 ravenant 5 ravenant 20 dryads or 5 ravenant 10 dryads 20 dryads:) what do u think ? Dryads all the way if you have some options to get forests.. in forests they are REALLY worth their points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tizianolol Posted November 19, 2016 Author Share Posted November 19, 2016 Ok ty all .. Loremaster seems so strong..but I have no points for him! I played de for years but I think I wanna play sylvaneth in aos.. Models are so good and they look fun to play too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler1906 Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 7 hours ago, Aezeal said: Dryads all the way if you have some options to get forests.. in forests they are REALLY worth their points. I agree I would 5 revenants 20 dryads and 10 dryads...20 dryads give you +1 armor save and if you are by a forest you will be a tarpit. I really anly use the revanents for objective capturing, and to to divert the enemy. They are needed fornthe gnarlroot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tizianolol Posted November 19, 2016 Author Share Posted November 19, 2016 Ty!! I have another e question..how many citatel woods i have to buy? Because one silvaneth wildwoods is free ( so 3 citatel woods) and during the game i can place many woods with anciend treelord or spells..so how many woods u buy?:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tizianolol Posted November 19, 2016 Author Share Posted November 19, 2016 Sorry for the doblepost .. But how many citadel woods i should buy for 2000 points game?:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler1906 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 20 hours ago, Tizianolol said: Ty!! I have another e question..how many citatel woods i have to buy? Because one silvaneth wildwoods is free ( so 3 citatel woods) and during the game i can place many woods with anciend treelord or spells..so how many woods u buy?:) Actually a Sylvaneth Wyldwood is up to 3 citadel woods according to the profile. However with the points added to it. The min is 1 and the max is 1. So instead of placing up to three I think it is one now. I may be wrong. It may be based on how the dice is working for you, but I say atleast take 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Payce Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 2 hours ago, tyler1906 said: Actually a Sylvaneth Wyldwood is up to 3 citadel woods according to the profile. However with the points added to it. The min is 1 and the max is 1. So instead of placing up to three I think it is one now. This is a really good point - does the Matched Play profile supercede the Warscroll, or vice versa? If Matched Play takes precedent, it means you can set up a single wood per cast/ability, regardless of Sylvaneth allegiance points reduction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler1906 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 5 minutes ago, Payce said: This is a really good point - does the Matched Play profile supercede the Warscroll, or vice versa? If Matched Play takes precedent, it means you can set up a single wood per cast/ability, regardless of Sylvaneth allegiance points reduction. That is how I have alway been playing any how. Because reading is fundamental and I am to dumb to read the description that says "up to three". I have only been placing one. Yeah so the match play profile did not affect me at all. That is why I also take verdent's blessing for my Wych so I can get a forest out from her along with my Ancients forest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler1906 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 6 minutes ago, Payce said: This is a really good point - does the Matched Play profile supercede the Warscroll, or vice versa? If Matched Play takes precedent, it means you can set up a single wood per cast/ability, regardless of Sylvaneth allegiance points reduction. Yeah so match play does supercede. The point cost, in my opinion, was added to limit the mix and match armies from getting free woods. I had a guy who ran SE with an ancient just to place woods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tizianolol Posted November 20, 2016 Author Share Posted November 20, 2016 Where I can see the point cost of wildwoods? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nico Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 As a Sylvaneth player, the Wyldwoods are free in matched play (when summoned using their rules) and you can bring up to 3 Citadel woods per Wyldwood. There has been a lot of confusion on this point sadly from people trying to nerf Sylvaneth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tizianolol Posted November 20, 2016 Author Share Posted November 20, 2016 Yesterday I played a 1k points game in my gw shop and I noted that 3 sylvaneth wildwoods every summon are impossible to play because there is no material space to summon..there are classic terrein and units will come to u for charge so u haven't space to summon 3 woods every turn!:) I don't think they are broken so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Payce Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 2 hours ago, Tizianolol said: Where I can see the point cost of wildwoods? The points cost for Wyldwoods as well as the Silver Tower heroes and other new releases can be found here: https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/AoS_Errata/ENG_Silver_Tower_PB.pdf 2 hours ago, Nico said: As a Sylvaneth player, the Wyldwoods are free in matched play (when summoned using their rules) and you can bring up to 3 Citadel woods per Wyldwood. There has been a lot of confusion on this point sadly from people trying to nerf Sylvaneth. Where's your source on this? Link to an FAQ or GW statement would be appreciated. The confusion isn't caused by "people wanting to nerf Sylvaneth", it's caused by the rules not being clear on the issue. The warscroll says that you can take 1-3 Woods per cast/summon of Sylvaneth Wyldwood, no one is denying that. The Matched Play profile (linked above) specifically says that one 40 point Sylvaneth Wyldwood consists of 1 and only 1 Wood. It also states that for Sylvaneth, the points cost is reduced to 0 points, but that it's still there, which means the unit size limitation remains intact. The question isn't if people want to nerf Sylvaneth or whether or not you play them, but which takes precedent - Matched Play rules, or Warscrolls. If Warscrolls take precedent, then yes, the 1-3 Woods is perfectly fine. However, if Matched Play rules supercede Warscrolls, then you get 1 Wood, regardless of allegiance. Until we have official wording, it's down to T.O.s and house rules, but this is basically just another case of AoS rules in this edition being really poorly written and incoherent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul G Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 1 sylvaneth wyldwood = 1-3 bases, perfectly clearSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nico Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 It says one and only one SYLVANETH WYLDWOOD - not one and only one CITADEL WOOD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tizianolol Posted November 20, 2016 Author Share Posted November 20, 2016 In your link it says 1 and only 1 unit of sylvaneth wildwood = 1-3 citadel wood !! @Nicou right. Because 1 unit of sylvaneth wildwoods is 1-3 citadel woods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler1906 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Ok you guys is you look warscrolls at some of the models it says something like this unit of dryads has 5 or more models...but the min is 10 in the GHB. It is a similar situation. My shop goes with the min and max of 1 wood not up to 3. if that was the case why bother to put a min or max on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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