hurben Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Lord of the Isle said: Surely Morathi can't take an artefact? Oh or is that on the SQ? Traitor's Banner such a nice fitting item!! Good question, I'm waiting for the BT to know it if we can put an artefact on the Morathi-Khaine new model. 1 hour ago, Boar said: Spellportal is 18"range so I wonder how useful Vitriolic spray would be. I guess Morathi would be up front blocking access to squishy darkshards somewhat? It will be, with the balewind vortex for improving the range by 6, and btw, vitriolic is 6". The thing would be to cast balewind and gain some inches by putting the endless spell in front of the sorceress and then put her on it. Then cast the umbrall with the Morathi-Khaine and put the first one at 1" of the sorceress in front of the balewind vortex. By this little glitch you can gain some inches and also use the 6" improved range from the balewind by the umbrall spellportal. 1 hour ago, Boar said: What spell would you put on Morathi? I'll certainly put the -1 to hit or +1 to wound spell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boar Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 12 minutes ago, hurben said: vitriolic is 6". Yeah that's why I am wondering, as in normal Cities empowered Spellportal can be put anywhere, but Har Kuron lost that. With balewind yeah it gives more range I played that sometimes in Anvilgard, just wondering how much flexibility is lost. Both Morathi's are listed as Unique. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurben Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 21 minutes ago, Boar said: Both Morathi's are listed as Unique. Ok so I'll put the artefact on thé slaughter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Veshnakar Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Losing empowered spells is a pretty big blow. I know it seems weird but losing the COS rules for the army kind of put the nail in the coffin of me wanting to give it a whirl. I guess I’ll keep playing Anvilgard until they tell me I can’t anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of the Isle Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Fight for the hammer & kraken!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slaangor19 Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 I really want to play this city. Delfs were my first army when getting into WHFB, but I dropped them when the 8th edition codex came out. Now I'm ready to give them a 2nd go in AoS. Aside from the new Dragon and Warrior kit, what else should I pick up for this endeavor? Should I build the Dragon Leader as a Dreadlord or Sorceress? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of the Isle Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Go for Dreadlord and both serpentis monsters for a really scary fun cool looking line up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmaravoz Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Realms have Broken… Check out the damage potential of the new Har Kuron City under Morathi’s leadership when she takes on forces of Nurgle 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Hi all, some questions (don´t own the book yet): - Does this city still get the Monsters (Hydras) as battleline? - Are Scourgerunner Chariots part of this city? - Is it right that there are actually 2 "Start Collecting" boxes you can use? Ie "Start Collecting Anvilguard" and "Broken Realms: Drusa Kraeth – Kraeth's Shadowpact"? - Is that new city supposed to be on the "good" side or is it fallen to the "dark side" of things? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graywater Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, Hannibal said: Hi all, some questions (don´t own the book yet): - Does this city still get the Monsters (Hydras) as battleline? - Are Scourgerunner Chariots part of this city? - Is it right that there are actually 2 "Start Collecting" boxes you can use? Ie "Start Collecting Anvilguard" and "Broken Realms: Drusa Kraeth – Kraeth's Shadowpact"? - Is that new city supposed to be on the "good" side or is it fallen to the "dark side" of things? Battleline hydra stayed only for anvilgard. Scourgerunners are part of it because they are a scourge privateers unit. So following from above, both of the combo boxes you listed are full of usable models for the city. Good and bad are a pretty difficult thing to describe. Its better than falling to chaos... but its definitely not the most upstanding of cities (then again, neither was anvilgard...). It isnt on the good or bad side. Its on morathi's side. Make of that what you will. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Graywater said: Battleline hydra stayed only for anvilgard. Scourgerunners are part of it because they are a scourge privateers unit. So following from above, both of the combo boxes you listed are full of usable models for the city. Thanks for the insight! Sounds interesting. Quote Good and bad are a pretty difficult thing to describe. Its better than falling to chaos... but its definitely not the most upstanding of cities (then again, neither was anvilgard...). It isnt on the good or bad side. Its on morathi's side. Make of that what you will. Well, I know that there is nothing like "good" or "bad" in all Warhammer worlds, but I don´t like to play the shiny guys. I guess that every single factions thinks that it is on the right track when it comes down to "good" or eben "best" intentions. It´s just a matter of one´s own perspective. Edited November 16, 2020 by Hannibal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graywater Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, Hannibal said: Thanks for the insight! Sounds interesting. Well, I know that there is nothing like "good" or "bad" in all Warhammer worlds, but I don´t like to play the shiny guys. I guess that every single factions thinks that it is on the right track when it comes down to "good" or eben "best" intentions. It´s just a matter of one´s own perspective. Well they certainly aren't the shiny guys. They are very much the dark elves of old. They are out for themselves, but they don't fight chaos. They CAN get along with other order factions, but its typically out of necessity or because there's something underhanded afoot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 41 minutes ago, Graywater said: Well they certainly aren't the shiny guys. They are very much the dark elves of old. They are out for themselves, but they don't fight chaos. They CAN get along with other order factions, but its typically out of necessity or because there's something underhanded afoot. Mmhh, guess I have to get the book then... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greed Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 On 11/16/2020 at 12:06 AM, Shmaravoz said: Realms have Broken… Check out the damage potential of the new Har Kuron City under Morathi’s leadership when she takes on forces of Nurgle Great Battlereport! Thank you! The Dude should give the sorc the prayer generals trait for exploding sixes. Further i think Morathi + Dragon is very expensive. Two Sorcs could be more effective. I would drop the Drakenspawns (they need dreadlord-support) and get some Black Guards and Executioners. Both provide from the prayer or Sorc-Support. Sourge Runner Chariots could be a nice alternative to the shadows. Finally Chromatic Cogs (maybe drop gemenids) gives some Speed for the troop-blocks or even more Magic harassment. In old days the Dark Elves always had a strong elite-infantry and heavy magic Power. In AoS now with Har Kuron we can see this play-style again. They got so much support from so many things. I really like this city! Damn never saw Darkshards that dangerous! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmaravoz Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 53 minutes ago, Greed said: Great Battlereport! Thank you! The Dude should give the sorc the prayer generals trait for exploding sixes. Further i think Morathi + Dragon is very expensive. Two Sorcs could be more effective. I would drop the Drakenspawns (they need dreadlord-support) and get some Black Guards and Executioners. Both provide from the prayer or Sorc-Support. Sourge Runner Chariots could be a nice alternative to the shadows. Finally Chromatic Cogs (maybe drop gemenids) gives some Speed for the troop-blocks or even more Magic harassment. In old days the Dark Elves always had a strong elite-infantry and heavy magic Power. In AoS now with Har Kuron we can see this play-style again. They got so much support from so many things. I really like this city! Damn never saw Darkshards that dangerous! Thank you for your comment! I belive giving sorceres additional spell to cast in this combo is more preferable rather than prayer (spells in Har Kuron are really good + spell portal) Drakespawn are good unit, as it gives mobility and 3+ save, still worth to have if you ask me. Not sure regarding Executioners Black Guard yet. For sure there is a room for experiment. Chariot is awesome, shame they increase point value in GHB2020, i have one and will incorporate in the list for sure. Regarding endless spells there are lots of choices, i personally enjoy debuffs in the city, where you can potentially give -3 to hit:) And Sorceress On Black Dragon, still need food Faq change, but vetter then she seems. Having Morathi and Dakrshards Death Star she just not the first priority to target, she is very mobile so can grab objectives by killing small units. Overal i am very hapy also that dark elves are finally playbale and they have lots of customization lots of room to explore them:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetaphoricDragon Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 3 hours ago, Greed said: Great Battlereport! Thank you! The Dude should give the sorc the prayer generals trait for exploding sixes. Further i think Morathi + Dragon is very expensive. Two Sorcs could be more effective. I would drop the Drakenspawns (they need dreadlord-support) and get some Black Guards and Executioners. Both provide from the prayer or Sorc-Support. Sourge Runner Chariots could be a nice alternative to the shadows. Finally Chromatic Cogs (maybe drop gemenids) gives some Speed for the troop-blocks or even more Magic harassment. In old days the Dark Elves always had a strong elite-infantry and heavy magic Power. In AoS now with Har Kuron we can see this play-style again. They got so much support from so many things. I really like this city! Damn never saw Darkshards that dangerous! Your comment made me wonder, how does the exploding 6s prayer work with the snicker-snack of the executioners' severing strike? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graywater Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 13 minutes ago, MetaphoricDragon said: Your comment made me wonder, how does the exploding 6s prayer work with the snicker-snack of the executioners' severing strike? Effects that trigger on 6s to hit arent carried over to abilities that grant extra hits on 6s as well. So in the case of executioners, each 6 rolled to hit will do 1 mortal wound, and also cause 1 dice to be added to the "to wound" pool. It would not cause two mortal wounds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greed Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 What do you guys think on this list: Leaders : Sorceress - Spell: Vilitrolic Spray - 90 Morathi-Khaine - Spell : The Withering / Shadow Queen - 600 Sorceress on Black Dragon - Spell: Vilitrolic Spray / Command trait: Murderous Zeal / Artefact: Traitors Banner - 300 Units : 30x Execuitioners - 300 30x Darkshards - 300 10x Dreadspears - 90 3x Scourgerunner Chariot 210 Endless Spells / Terrain / Extra Command Point : Umrball Spellportal - 70 Balewind Vortex - 40 Battallions: Kraeth's Shadowpact - 160 **** 2000 pts I'm really not sure about the Black Dragon Sorc + Battallion, they took a lot of points which i would like to spend in Black Guard Horde Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snakeb1te Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Can Vitriolic spray and Bladewind combo? If so, that could be pretty decent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graywater Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Snakeb1te said: Can Vitriolic spray and Bladewind combo? If so, that could be pretty decent. It can. Vitriolic spray changes a units save characteristic to "-", which is equivalent to a 7+ (from the core rules). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurben Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Snakeb1te said: Can Vitriolic spray and Bladewind combo? If so, that could be pretty decent. Best combo is Balewind vortex + Umbral spellportal + Vitriolic 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetaphoricDragon Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 4 hours ago, Greed said: What do you guys think on this list: Leaders : Sorceress - Spell: Vilitrolic Spray - 90 Morathi-Khaine - Spell : The Withering / Shadow Queen - 600 Sorceress on Black Dragon - Spell: Vilitrolic Spray / Command trait: Murderous Zeal / Artefact: Traitors Banner - 300 Units : 30x Execuitioners - 300 30x Darkshards - 300 10x Dreadspears - 90 3x Scourgerunner Chariot 210 Endless Spells / Terrain / Extra Command Point : Umrball Spellportal - 70 Balewind Vortex - 40 Battallions: Kraeth's Shadowpact - 160 **** 2000 pts I'm really not sure about the Black Dragon Sorc + Battallion, they took a lot of points which i would like to spend in Black Guard Horde The Battalion is specifically Drusa Kraeth, not just any sorceress on Dragon, thus You'd have to take The Whisperers command trait and no artifact, though you could switch those to your on foot sorceress. Honestly not sure on battalion, Drusa herself ends up pretty limited by being a named character, though 90 crossbow shots, particularly into a vitriolic sprayed unit is going to hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of the Isle Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 On 11/4/2020 at 3:11 PM, Lord of the Isle said: But Drusa is from Anvilgard, not HK... Ageing Well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramer Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 This city finally has me excited to rebase my old dark elves and maybe even expand my 1K of DoK. trying to make the most of the prayer and the models I like best I ended up with these two lists. I struggle with two things. So help an elfy brother out one is MW outpUt. Love my executioner models. But they aren’t as good as I need them to be to fill this hole. second is objective play. Nothing is really holding its own in that regard. I like the Corsair + prayer + fleet master combo. Same for the dark shards. but maybe I need to drop one for some screens/anvils. But what would function like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurben Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Kramer said: This city finally has me excited to rebase my old dark elves and maybe even expand my 1K of DoK. trying to make the most of the prayer and the models I like best I ended up with these two lists. * * I struggle with two things. So help an elfy brother out one is MW outpUt. Love my executioner models. But they aren’t as good as I need them to be to fill this hole. second is objective play. Nothing is really holding its own in that regard. I like the Corsair + prayer + fleet master combo. Same for the dark shards. but maybe I need to drop one for some screens/anvils. But what would function like that? You're not allowed to use COS city roules in Har Kuron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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