Agent of Chaos Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Looking for painting tips before I start on a bloodthirster. Right from the start I'm unsure what to use for undercoating. I typically spray everything in chaos black and then if its going to be predominantly red, another spray of Mephiston Red. This leads to a darker overall tone for my models so if I want a particular detail to pop (bright red on a banner for example) I will paint a layer of white first. I really want the thirster to pop on the table and be a fairly bright centre piece to the army and so am considering spray undercoating in white. However I have had a bad experience with white spray before where it dried thick and flaky and made the models virtually unpaintable. Would people recommend a white spray undercoat? Any other tips for undercoating to ensure I get a smooth finish ready for painting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkK Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Another option is a light grey primer, I use an autoshop rattlecan, goes on very smooth and easy to paint on. Nearly everything I paint is over grey primer, I find it takes a lot longer to build up layers over black, especially lighter colours. You could spray black and drybrush a white zenithal highlight, drawing the brush from the top to bottom moving in one direction only. I used a white primer recently, another autoshop rattlecan from Halfords, seemed on pretty smooth without obscuring the details, see below One thing I have started doing lately is after removing mold lines, is to give a quick sand to the area with 1200 grit wet and dry sandpaper, smoothes any imperfections without removing much plastic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flemingmma Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Always black undercoat! Anything else is heresy! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammer49 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Try Zenith method- Black, Grey and then white on the highest points 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramer Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Zenithal shading would probably work very well but practice on another model first. Why not split the difference and spray grey? Had no problem with that so far but I do recognize the problems with white spray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorax Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 (edited) It sounds crazy but if you actually undercoat everything with yellow you will end up with a very vibrant red. Using an orange red as your highlight color makes for a nice overall effect. Edited August 18, 2019 by Lorax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuneBrush Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Loads of good suggestions here already! Would 100% agree with you on the reliability of Corax White spray too - if the conditions aren't perfect then you'll end up with a horribly powdery finish (have ruined far too many models doing this myself). The two new off-white sprays (Grey Seer & Wraithbone) are however superb! One thing to watch out for is that Grey Seer (the cold grey spray) can suck out a bit of vibrancy from the colour. I'm guessing you don't have access to an airbrush? If you do, then I'd thoroughly recommend P3 Morrow White applied as a zenithal undercoat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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