Counting slain units

[Sneedlewoods]

Hi mates,

 

Quick question:

Do returned slain units still Count as slain at the end of a battle?

For example, if a unit of slain skeletons is brought back with a CP at the Legions of Nagash. Will this unit still be count as slain?

Thanks for your repsonse guys! 👍😁

[Skreech Verminking]

I’d say yes, but am not really sure either 

[King Taloren]

It’s a good question I’m not sure if I’ve seen anything.

I would say would depend on the objective at hand. If the goal is total amount of units slain during the entire  battle I would say yes it would count once.

If it was units slain that are counted at the end of the battle instead I would say no.

[Fluttershy]

tricky one

I would say no, but I'm confused by the Core Rules, Designers’ Commentary entry Page 6

Q: If a model is slain but later returned to its unit in the same turn, does it count as being slain for battleshock tests? If it were slain, returned and slain again, would it count as being slain twice?

A: Yes to both questions.

[Sneedlewoods]

I'd say no, too - but well I'm a Legion of Nagash Player...  I couldn't find anything Close to this.

[Forrix]

In every tournament I've played the answer is yes, they still count as slain for points and such.

[azdimy]

GW need an faq on this, I ve seen it turning a victory to a loss depending how it gets ruled

[Sneedlewoods]

I just wrote to the AoS Warhammer Rules Team. Hopefully we'll get an answer in one of the next errata.

[Glazer]

Models are slain, but units are destroyed.  See page 2 of the core rules design commentary:

Quote

 

 Q: Some abilities refer to units that have been ‘destroyed’. What does this mean exactly?

A: A unit is considered to be destroyed when the last model from the unit is slain or flees. When measuring the range to a destroyed unit, measure to the position occupied by the last model in the unit to be slain or flee.

 

If a rule allows you to return a destroyed unit, for example with the Endless Legions command ability, then it is no longer a destroyed unit.  If on the other hand the destroyed unit is replaced with a new unit that is added to your army, for example with the Moonclan Lairs scenery rule, then the original unit is still destroyed.