Shane Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 The Verminlord tells her before battle that if she leaves the Furnace then they'll be bathed afterwards. Fate worse than death. A clean rat has no soul. Was toying around with list building again last night. Plague Monks being battleline only if you're full Pestilens knackers everything I tried. Bile Trolls? Nope. Fluffy Nurgle heroes? Nope. It's down to making the formations work now. Best hope. Oh, and not bothering with Censor Bearers. More Monks instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polarbear Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 2 hours ago, Shane said: The Verminlord tells her before battle that if she leaves the Furnace then they'll be bathed afterwards. Fate worse than death. A clean rat has no soul. Was toying around with list building again last night. Plague Monks being battleline only if you're full Pestilens knackers everything I tried. Bile Trolls? Nope. Fluffy Nurgle heroes? Nope. It's down to making the formations work now. Best hope. Oh, and not bothering with Censor Bearers. More Monks instead. Not sure if there's any hope to hold out but I really wish the allegiance possibilities would be expanded a bit, to where if you had an all-Nurgle keyword army for example you could take monks as battleline etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Yes; that is exactly my thought. Pestilens is incredibly narrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James McPherson Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 I just bought 20x finecast Censer bearers, determined to get them to work! Was going to use them in the Plaguesmog formation.. the buffs they get when close to plague bearers seem worth trying them but the no save bit sucks balls. That why you dislike them so much Shane? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 22 minutes ago, James McPherson said: I just bought 20x finecast Censer bearers, determined to get them to work! Was going to use them in the Plaguesmog formation.. the buffs they get when close to plague bearers seem worth trying them but the no save bit sucks balls. That why you dislike them so much Shane? Cost in £££ Poisonus fumes is a 50/50 chance of causing a single mortal wound. No boost on unit size. So no incentive to take more. Don't have the range of buffs that Plague Monks get. Bigger base so less models get in to attack. Reroll hits requires a hero locally; Monks get it for free with the double knives They're way more expensive in points than Monks (nearly double the cost) They could work if you went all out on them. Unit of 20 with a Furnace. On the charge they're three attacks re-rolling. But they're still worse than 20 Plague Monks. And cost a lot more. It's not that they're inherently bad. What I ask myself is - why take them instead of more Monks? I can't come up with a single answer to that. On a side note, just looked and couldn't see Lord Skrolk in the GH point listings. That would be another big blow if he isn't included. The Plague Priest is a nerfed version of his original profile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James McPherson Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Skrolk is 100 pts in the legacy GH section the BSB is 140 points and gives immunity to battleshock to all units within something like 13inchs My censer bearers are on 25mm , they fit ok on them, not sure why they come with 32mm bases. They have a 2" reach which is useful too so on 25mm you can get 2x ranks in with them. With plaguesmog congregation they cause d3 hits on a 2+ with their poisonous fumes rule which is much better. They don't need to be near heroes to get the re-roll to hit they just need to be within 13" of any plague monks, as well as that they get a re-roll for battleshock. I see them as a good little support unit for when plaguemonks come up against something like these undead shields that have +1 to save against melee weapons of '-' rend, and as specialist troops to attack high armor value targets, in support of a unit of plague monks. In my last game though they really sucked balls a lot and got eaten fast by some dire wolves, but that was mainly down to my own bad generalship/lack of experience using them I've been looking at lists ready for the campaign and looking ahead to some tournaments. Can't get a mono list I like, the battleshock thing is just too crumbly. I lost a whole unit of 40 monks in one turn to buffed skeletons in my last game and it pretty much ended the game for me, I think I'd need the crown of command to give inspiring presence twice in a turn, and that is the only way I could make a list I like. So it comes out something like this at the moment, a Corruptor as general for the command ability , with a legacy BSB Chieftain (I am using Plague Lord Nurglitch as a proxy for) who is pretty much essential to get the immune to battleshock rule when he plants his banner, and Skrolk who is much better than the average priest at only 20 points more ad has a good command ability also if you wanted to use his instead of the Corruptors, with a congregation of filth (2x 30 P.monks or 3x 20) and plaguesmog congregation (2 x 10 C.Bearers or 4 x5 ) at the heart of things, and then with clanrats to fill out battleline and push the furnaces or maybe some plague bearers .I may also put in a Daemon Prince with Axe for the -2 rend. I wanted to get the foulrain congregation in there and pestilent clawpack but just run out of space/points. The 6 up feel no pain save and the re-rolls to charge with C.o.Filth formation are pretty useful and its cheap at 60 points so I went with that. An Epidemius would help a bit, and a GUO instead of a Corruptor might be worth it too for the -2 rend attacks and the missile attack he has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 We're in a agreement that a mono-Pestilens list just isn't feasible then. Strange, pre-points I was excited to paint them. Now with points the enthusiasm has waned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pforson Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Anyone know how many points a Grey Seer is? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 8 minutes ago, pforson said: Anyone know how many points a Grey Seer is? Thanks. PM'd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James McPherson Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 2 hours ago, Shane said: We're in a agreement that a mono-Pestilens list just isn't feasible then. Strange, pre-points I was excited to paint them. Now with points the enthusiasm has waned. I'm hoping they will update the app with v2 battletomes to give all the sub-factions their own specific traits and arcane items, also hoping they will develop Pestilens further with future releases. fingers crossed. I just started painting mine, I know what you mean! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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