Ashtyn Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Hi guys I'm wondering if it's possible to ally with models that simply have the generic DEATH keyword. From reading the generals handbook I can't really identify if you can or you can't because there is no specific distinction. If anyone can help clarify this it would be great, as it assists my nighthaunt list building. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotrek Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Im assuming you want to ally in tomb kings? If you include any models outside of nighthaunt or its listed allies (deathlords and soul blight) then you become grand alliance death and not nighthaunt allegiance. Simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashtyn Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share Posted August 31, 2017 Cheers Gotrek Wanted to add vampire lord on abyssal terror for movement shenanigans to enable better use of Hexwraiths with the mortal wound movement ability. Seems a little odd you cant ally with generic death but thanks for the clarification! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakree Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Generic death represents everyone who serves under Nagash. The individual Factions represent the smaller political entities within the Grand Alliance, thus the allies represent the various internal power struggles which occur within each Grand Alliance. Destruction is the best example for this where it splits dead down the Ogres and Greenskinz line. Inside Death itself a good example would be Soulblight, what true Proud Vampire Lord would ever want to ally with the disgusting maniacs of the Flesh Eater Courts. The one thing which does get me is in GHB2017 the allies list for "Deadwalkers" is "Deadwalker .... Nighthaunt..." which suggests they just copy pasted the Deathlords allies list for them. By the same token it makes absolutely NO sense that Nighthaunt can't use Deadwalkers as allies, surely with so many souls being reaped the lifeless animated corpses and creatures of the night would flood around the Night Haunt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashtyn Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share Posted August 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Malakree said: Generic death represents everyone who serves under Nagash. The individual Factions represent the smaller political entities within the Grand Alliance, thus the allies represent the various internal power struggles which occur within each Grand Alliance. Destruction is the best example for this where it splits dead down the Ogres and Greenskinz line. Inside Death itself a good example would be Soulblight, what true Proud Vampire Lord would ever want to ally with the disgusting maniacs of the Flesh Eater Courts. The one thing which does get me is in GHB2017 the allies list for "Deadwalkers" is "Deadwalker .... Nighthaunt..." which suggests they just copy pasted the Deathlords allies list for them. By the same token it makes absolutely NO sense that Nighthaunt can't use Deadwalkers as allies, surely with so many souls being reaped the lifeless animated corpses and creatures of the night would flood around the Night Haunt? I noticed this!! From a lore perspective all I can imagine is that a Necromancer can enslave and control spirits, but spirits would be unwilling to include a mortal in their midst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakree Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 59 minutes ago, Ashtyn said: I noticed this!! From a lore perspective all I can imagine is that a Necromancer can enslave and control spirits, but spirits would be unwilling to include a mortal in their midst. Deadwalkers is specifically zombies, direwolves and bats as distinct from necros/mortis engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashtyn Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share Posted August 31, 2017 2 hours ago, Malakree said: Deadwalkers is specifically zombies, direwolves and bats as distinct from necros/mortis engine. Good point, seems odd for them to do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deynon Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 No, generirc Death is not allyable, cause it's not in the list of the optons in each allegiance in GH2017, so VLoAT and Khmeri will remain in GA:D only for now.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilby Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 15 hours ago, Malakree said: what true Proud Vampire Lord would ever want to ally with the disgusting maniacs of the Flesh Eater Courts. According to the FEC book vampires could rule a court "providing, of course, that they all share a similar madness." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakree Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 36 minutes ago, Gilby said: According to the FEC book vampires could rule a court "providing, of course, that they all share a similar madness." At that point they aren't a Proud Vampire Lord they're just another crazy Varghulf Courtier. They actually are vampires who've gone nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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