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  1. kahadin

    AoS 2 - Blades of Khorne Discussion

    That's a good poi t about skullcrushers. I better re-evaluate them. On the charge they should be rocking. I already gave some and a Jug Lord so that would be easy to try. Also anyone feel like wrathmongers just replaced the bloodsecrator? If I only cared about 1a I feel like Id rather take the mongers now instead of the Totem.
  2. kahadin

    AoS 2 - Blades of Khorne Discussion

    Bray shamans are the same points as a priest and have something like bloodbind. He could throw down some cogs with minimal ajustments
  3. kahadin

    AoS 2 - Blades of Khorne Discussion

    This is how I liked to play mortals before. I mainly used skullcrushers to receive charges or control enemy movement. I also used blood warriors to receive the alpha strike and slow it down. Much of the book is improved for me in this regard and I'm not complaining about it. The gorefists alone are a big bonus for me. My main worry is that my hammer previously were skullreapers with +1 hit or save. I don't feel like they can do it anymore. I absolutely think reapers are better unbuffed now then they were previously. Unbuffed they tend to get more mws and damage, but they don't benefit as much from buffs as the old ones. The old ones were pretty over the top imo if you handled them right. For me personally I feel like there is not really a bb hammer in the mortals. If anyone finds it let me know. I don't have any bloodthirsters right now and don't relish buying or painting them.
  4. kahadin

    AoS 2 - Blades of Khorne Discussion

    what was your list? Also how did your friend do in his gt with his?
  5. kahadin

    AoS 2 - Blades of Khorne Discussion

    This is what I was afraid of. For me the 2 handers did almost all the damage along with mortal wounds on 5s and sixes. Now thats gone. As far as I'm concerned the attacks they have are not great. I'm searching for a good hammer now. If I jump ship to Slaanesh I want one, and if I stay khorne I want one. Manticore lord might do the trick. Matbe buffed bulgors? I'm not really sure. I feel like I might need to just get some damn bloodthirsters, but I want to proxy them to see if they are really the punch I'm looking for and are cost effectve.
  6. kahadin

    AoS 2 - Blades of Khorne Discussion

    I don't like dragon ogors. They really need the faction specific artifacts and stuff from BoC and I still don't like them. HOWEVER, you can't take a marked shaggoth, but you could ally one in... He just wouldn't be marked. I'm still not sold on them. I really want to look at the BoC formation. Its a big traddeoff because you lose a lot for a +1 to hit buff on a unit, or +1 attack. For example bullgors cannot heal unless they are in a BOC army.
  7. kahadin

    AoS 2 - Blades of Khorne Discussion

    So a long time ago I discovered a 40 man unit of marauders is pretty tanky and cheap if you could make it immune to BS. I used to do this with a warshrine and devote them to slaanesh. It could have been easily done with the old Bloodsecrator (So I'm not sure why I never bothered to try it), but it can currently work with an exalted deathbringer. I'm trying to review options, but this should be a line that would be hard to eat through. Its 40 wounds at 5+ for 200 points. It also has a big footprint. They could hold an objective, or just tarpit a unit to get hammered. IIRC there is nothing more point efficient than them if they are immune to BS.
  8. kahadin

    AoS 2 - Blades of Khorne Discussion

    I'd really appreciate it if people brought in the arguments for "New Khorne so OP LOL!" I'm not seeing them in this thread, and I'm not seeing them elsewhere. It would be really helpful if we could just copy/paste some of those nuggets here so we could be privy to all those op nuggets everyone else knows about that we don't. Everything I see is more like "This unit can now see play in these conditions" and "Yeah that got weaker, but it was already so OP it still is." Maybe demons got great and I'm just being narrow minded as I prefer mortals... Also I can tell you guys from experience that the Manticore lord is pretty good. I like him with Berserker lord to make him tanky, but the +1 damage, even on just his weapons is very strong. Also, I think now that the battalions have changed for beasts of chaos so we can actually take them in a knorne army is worth thinking about. Bulgores with +1 to hit should be nasty for 140 points. I havn't had too much time to think about using BoC yet (when I first picked them up you couldn't use marked battalions outside BoCso I put the out of my mind). If anyone thins of something decent before me let us know, because BoC might be fun with our buffs. Not sure if they are better than regular BoC though. Edit: I posted this as Mikey posted, but I'm glad to see that there is a feeling that the book is good from someone that actually played it.
  9. kahadin

    AoS 2 - Blades of Khorne Discussion

    Honestly I'm not really sure there is a debate about axes over fists. Axes used to be the preferred choice so most oldbies went full axes and have over $200 of plastic glued dual axes. It would take a lot for someone in that camp to ever advocate gorefists. I really think that rr1 on a 3+ to hit is marginal, and for units like blood warriors a one in six chance for a mortal wound for each successful save way outweighs a few extra hits with a 4+ no rend weapon.
  10. kahadin

    AoS 2 - Blades of Khorne Discussion

    I hate to be a wet blanket, but this is really true. The reavers are man sized, while the priests are giants. It's not as cheap, but the exhalted dbs would be good with minimal conversion.
  11. kahadin

    AoS 2 - Blades of Khorne Discussion

    For anyone wondering about slaves units I played with them quite a bit. I've personally found that most don't do the job. Theoretically Warriors with great weapons and the warshrine's reroll hits and the lord on manticore CA should put out bonkers damage, but they only fight in one rank and are slow. As they are slow they tend to get charged and with no shields or no respite just tend to die. I'm a big fan of the lord on manticore with berserker lord, the sword and lance. He REALLY needs berserker lord if you drop the shield, and he REALLY needs the lance (you get either the lance or the shield) He is fast, tough and hurts Stuff Also I like the Khorne DP. He gets +1 hit for being khorne so the axe rocks. However he dies easily. I also like marauder horsemen if I can get them. I use them for screens and grabbing objctives and harass. They are more speed. Lastly, even though its not slaves to darkness, I used to ally in warhounds as a screen. I don't know if they still have it, but they autoran 6". You can see a theme of all my auxiliaries being fast. I always felt like the army benefited from a few fast elements.
  12. kahadin

    AoS 2 - Blades of Khorne Discussion

    That is certainly the main weakness, you can only fit so many models around 5 bases. As the unit gets bigger the investment does too. Makes me feel like they have to be doing more than softening up a unit. As for the sorcerer I made a slave Wizard when the edition first game out in case I needed one for endless spells. I've never brought him to the table, but he looks thoroughly abused by his Khorne masters.
  13. kahadin

    AoS 2 - Blades of Khorne Discussion

    I might have to dust off my blood warriors then. People around me love making out units for damage. I've got to try to find out if I can weasel some way to reroll saves. The math will probably show that the return damage is not worth the 100 points, but I'll try it anyway.
  14. kahadin

    AoS 2 - Blades of Khorne Discussion

    So I asked on reddit: If a blood warrior is wounded 100 times do you make 100 saves or roll saves individually until he is dead. It looks like you roll 100 saves. Page 7 of the rule pdf states that you allocate damage after all the units attacks are resolved. This may be news to no one, but it seems to make a good case for msu gorefists. Is there something I'm missing or a rule I got wrong? Seems like we could run some blood warriors into a death star and deal a good amount of ortal wounds back if this is right.
  15. kahadin

    AoS 2 - Blades of Khorne Discussion

    The wording is different. The book ones say something like a priest in your arms can chant this, while the warscroll ones say this model can chant one of the following. So you can spam bb, but not frenzy
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