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Just pray to Papa Nurgle and start a Maggotkin army as a sign of devotion!

Allow me to put my two cents in… My perspective comes from the point of a person who was reading BL for quite a long time (my first book was Space Marine by Ian Watson back in 90’s) and who has an extensive collection of entire HH series. I think BL in general is doing better in 40k than Fantasy. Occasionally one can stumble on a rare gem like Mike Lee’s Nagash trilogy (absolutely recommend this book to any TK or Death faction player), but overall the level of fantasy writing is quite poor. I would not put this totally on the authors though. I believe it is hard to write a book within the set parameters of company’s IP. Unfamiliarity of many authors with the game and extensive knowledge of back ground plays a big role in the quality of books. This last point is what makes ADB such a perfect writer for BL. Not only he is quite talented, but he also knows what he is writing about. That being said, even his books can be ruined by poorly chosen narrator (do not ever buy Emperor Spears audio version and just read the actual book). My second point is the price. I agree with above mentioned statement that $40 for a book is a bit pricey. Especially considering that it has rather limited appeal.

I would lose my mind if this happened. 100% this!

Try local libraries. Back in the day when GW closed all the stores around Boston some people had success in using local libraries to organize weekly gaming.

It does, but it is very rare. You have to be a Slayer Sword type of painter in order to be considered for studio job. That being said, you might be right that getting the foot in the door at a basic level is the most realistic way. I know Sleboda (though in fairness he wrote for American WD not the main studios in UK). Dave Taylor is another great example of entering the company at a base level and then running a studio in US.

Suggesting something to GW might be really hard, but you can try to cart to miniature designers/studio guys at one of the events (like Warhammer Fest). alternatively, you can try to apply for the studio job when it becomes available and go from there. Granted, it doesn’t happen often but it is a possibility.

MOD EDIT “Traditional” dwarfs were supposed to be living in caves/underground. Nature teaches us that with less sun there is less pigmentation in the skin. Thus in “traditional” culture dwarfs were always depicted white/pale/albino...

And this is exactly a problem. The company doesn’t really care, majority of the gamers doesn’t really care, yet the small but very vocal group of people wants everybody to believe the opposite…

The problem is not GW making female models. The problem is “certain agendas” being pushed by minority in order to feel welcome… Good for you! My daughter doesn’t need plastic representation of her gender to feel equal. She paints her models better than most adults and so far, outplayed most of males in tabletop games and sports…

I honestly have no agenda… I want community to be inclusive and welcoming, but it is not the same as changing the models/hobby to “represent” for the sake of representation. For example – I really enjoy new DoK faction in AoS. It is predominantly female army with one of my favorite female characters from the Old World. Objectively there is no need for female orks, dwarfs etc... aside from “hidden agendas”.

I do not have to consider it. It is a hobby with set parameters and you either come and join it or not. You either feel comfortable or not… believe me, some old grumpy (or socially inept) guys can make anybody feel uncomfortable. And that is okay… just do not join them. Find a group that is welcoming or create you own. Just do not try and impose “be female welcoming” rule on everybody… Every group I ever joined was very welcoming to females and respectful. I personally would not tolerate rude behavior towards woman or anybody else for that matter. That being said, I found that some women that joined the hobby are less tolerant towards other people’s opinion and often lead towards fracturing of the group… I might have missed your representation towards “the other side of the fence”. All I saw was an attempt of using the name of the president to insult someone and no one reacted to this. To me it is unacceptable. Sorry to hear that. My recommendation to everybody is to stay out of social media platforms as much as possible. Forums like this are much “safer” in this regard.

I read enough to see the agenda behind the topic... and yes, it should stay predominantly male and it will be predominantly male in the future, no matter how much some people will try to pretend otherwise. Last time I visited Adepticon the ratio of male to female was 10 to 1... I have nothing against females in the hobby, in fact, I alway highly encourage this. The issue I have is topics like this... As for “gender neutral” - reed the third post in this topic. I confess, insults of president was in another topic but no one reacted to it and my reaction was reprimanded by the author of this topic... This hobby makes me plenty happy and I’ve been involved in it since late nineties. I am just tired of SJW attempts at trying to influence everything.

As I close the door of the car... Please stop with this SJW topics. All this “gender natural”, “female representation”, president insulting ******... this is a war gaming forum for the product that has been around for more than 25 years. If the setting doesn’t fit your vision of universe go find a new one where you will be happy. Stop trying to change wargaming (might be a surprise for some but it is predominantly male hobby based on the reenacting of real battles where males were smashing each other into bloody pulp). Leave the hobby the way it is. It is perfectly good.

If you allow me to piggyback here… back in the day, my local GW store stared a small afterschool club. Once a week one of the employees reported to the school for two-hour shift and played some small games with kids. It was very productive both in terms of growing the hobby and sales for the store. Most of the kid’s parents came back to the store with Christmas wish-lists and about third of the kids became regular visitors and continued with the hobby afterwards.

Question to Moderators - can you “encourage” people not to bring politics to this discussions? Some of us visit this forum to get some rest from all the “progressive” ****** that is forced down our throat in everyday life...

I do not even know where to begin… This is such an exciting news! I really miss the “regimental” structure of WHFB and the story line that I could relate too (who didn’t like Kemmler or Settra). Recently I assembled around 2000 points of FEC with custom bases and all but I found myself hesitant to proceed with the project. Each time I look at them I keep thinking about Strigoi themed army an WHFB… As I mentioned previously, I suspect that the models are going to be on round bases but mounted on square regimental movement trays. Similar to what GW did with LotR. Releasing a new game for square bases wouldn’t make much sense. It might alienate players who committed to AoS. I expect to see new armies as well… Granted, the Mortarch of Grief is an AoS charecter but I can totally see an undead army of wraiths led by a Banshee in the old World. The biggest questions that I have – what would be done for “discontinued” models/armies. Would entire HE range be re-sculpted and re-released? Would they bring TK sculpts back? Would they bring a DOW army back from oblivion (considering that announcement map has Estalia and Tilea centered right in the middle of the map)? Too many questions….

That is pretty much how I envisioned it. Back in the day when LotR came out it was a skirmish game with round bases. Later GW introduced a supplement with regimental bases to play larger games similar to WHFB.

That would be a great idea, actually! The best possible solution to appeal to people who dropped out of the hobby because WHFB sudden demise.

Nagash books by Mike Lee are absolutely awesome. Some of the best writing for WHFB universe. I wish the released them as audio… The magnitude of his personality was described very well and insights in to other lords of undeath was quite good. New Nagash model is also a wonderful masterpiece. One day I will have time in my life to sit down and paint it.

That is the first thing I thought when I saw it. One of my all-times favorite unit form WHFB… but I am afraid it is not going to be reincarnated in AoS 😞

No… they look very much like same old chaos warriors!

I really do not know how I fell about new Bonereapers army. On one hand, it seems to be the first undead army that fully fit within AoS esthetics and lore. It is an army specifically designed for this game system. All other undead were sot of continuation from the Old Warhammer World and thus felt a bit alien to this setting (granted Nighthunt was released for AoS but it still felt and looked as an army that fits the Old World). I especially like that this new force follows the design of Morghasts models that were introduced at the End of Times and despite being conceptually very interesting didn’t quit feel right next to the rest of the army. Secondly, I like the “elitness” of this army. As of right now (without knowing the rules) it looks like one doesn’t need to collect 40+ models just to make one unit playable. This army takes a step away from “horde” aspect of usual undead which makes collecting it more affordable in terms of time and money. I also enjoy a bit of silliness (regardless if it was intentional or not on the part of designers). It really reminds me of early years of Warhammer. The idea that these are not skeletons but instead a bone construct is also cool (I prefer this lore much better that “terracotta warriors”) but at the same time this is where my issue with this army begins… Upon seeing this release, I came to realization that my long-cherished hope of TK being resurrected in AoS setting is dead. Regardless if old players like it or not this is how GW sees the TK in AoS. Esthetically these are clearly not Egyptian themed phalanxes of warriors supported by chariots, war machines and constructs and this makes me sad. I never used to play TK (mostly due to the bad rules and models design) but when GW released several new sets for 8th edition I feel in love and sold most of my demons so I can start collecting this new army. My hopes were crushed because a relatively new line of models was almost instantly discontinued by GW as a range (I think they lasted around three years). I was really hoping that at some point in time GW will rerelease plastic TK sets from 8th edition with possibly adding couple of new boxes to the range (like new chariots and rank and file skeletons). In fact, I think that previewed catapult could have easily fit TK line with appropriate crew attached to it. Even Tomb Guard models were “bulky” enough to be used instead of Mortek Guard…. That being said – TK are gone!

I like this idea. I think the paragraph above is unnecessary. You can easily achieve this result with different colorschemes. Also, “Scarab Swarms” can be incorporated as an endless spell. Other than these two points I would totally buy the entire army done this way.

TK were really seen because of poorly designed rules (same as beastmen) and a huge aesthetic gap between design of elite unit and old basic troops. I’ve been playing WFB for many years but stopped actively participating by the time of 8th edition. That being said, TK elite models that were released around that time were absolutely stunning. Before that I never considered them as an option for myself (mainly because current VC line was much better as far as the sculpting goes) however; the new kits totally change my mind. I did purchase multiple new kits but unfortunately before I had a chance to assemble and paint them “The End of Times” happened and GW dropped the faction all together. It is really a shame. TK could have fit perfectly in new “multiverse/realm” setting. All skeleton/golem army – yes please. There is and always be a demand for an Egyptian style of armies in war gaming community. Unopened box with Sphinx on eBay is going for $150 with multiple bids. Dogs of War is another interesting choice but I think it can be done with current Free People rules. The only thing that GW need to release for them are a unit of halflings and Birdmen.