Warboss Gorbolg

If Dispossessed sell well there is still a potential expansion in the future IMO. GW is first and foremost a business. The pruning opens up room for new, more fantastical kits. I expected the warriors to go for some time. They showed their age and you don’t need 3 different options of duardin on foot with either great weapons or weapon/shields. Thought thunderers were 50/50, and I agree that the Unforged felt out of place. I also feel that Dispossessed are really strongly integrated into the setting narrative, more so than other legacy non-humans. I don’t expect an expansion any time soon and the demand needs to be there, but strangely I am now more likely to start a Dispossessed force that I’ve been flirting with the last couple of years.

I feel for everyone that is disappointed. There will be a lot of warscrolls remaining so I’d recommend people look into logical proxies. There will still be scrolls for dragons, dudes with great weapons, sword/board, bows, etc.

Firestorm seemed like a stopgap to me but I’m feeling like Cities might be the final home and prune for the legacy armies (Wanderers, Dispossessed, Free Peoples, Ironweld, etc.). Was hoping for Dispossessed and Wanderers to be expanded but I’ve slowly come to like the Firestorm approach and associated lore.

I’m drawn to the idea of a band of pure Ardboyz out there trying to prove they’re as tough as anyone else as well. The really low movement of the IJ concerns me a bit. Makes me wonder if Brutes will be better because when you finally get there, you need to kill quickly since you’re already probably late to the party.

Why do you say that? Sorry if it’s obvious. Just starting to explore Warcry.

GW seems to have already moved on in the lore from horses to demigryphs for the Free Peoples. The demigryphs show up in a number of novels whereas I haven’t encountered a single horse so far. GW could continue to expand on that theme. Not nearly as dramatic as you make it seem.

Honestly I hope that models with horses are phased out with more fantastical replacements. I just don’t feel that horses fit well into the setting.

In the Realm Gate Wars novel, my recollection is that the Ironjawz were using ships to get across some funky sand ocean or something. Also remember that some ride around on sky ships in the Battletome . One of my favorite things about these early narratives was that GW left the door open to Ironjawz and Destruction in general to adopting some tech.

Seems to me that Slaanesh needs a mortal box on foot and a mortal leader. Hellstriders seem out of place otherwise and the model line in general will appear fragmented and incomplete.

Noticed that a few weeks ago and grabbed one off of Amazon. Figure I can use it as an alternative Runeson or something. It's a good model IMO.

Disappointed that there are no new units. However, if the magma guy is "persistent", Fyreslayers become more elite, and the huge stable of leaders are internally well balanced AND have meaningful, unique roles...than the new battletome would make this a much more collectible faction. Feel that those are a lot of asks for this release.

Overall a lot of great stuff for AOS to be excited about. However, I'll join the chorus that Fyreslayers needed a new kit. I can't imagine expanding my Fyreslayers as there just isn't enough troop variety. My collection will stay at "allies levels". Definitely surprised that GW seemes to consider Fyreslayers to be a complete faction.

The howdah from the Arachnarok manned by Shootas and covered in mushrooms might be a fun addition to consider up on top.

Anyone having success with Hoppers? If so, in how large of a unit? Understand the Bounderz love but I like the Hoppers aesthetics and the idea of additional movement. I'm also hesitant to invest too heavily in Bounderz as they are ubiquitous in lists, and GW has shown an inclination to make points adjustments to such units. Although ideally Hoppers will just get cheaper.

Would really like to see an Ardboys hero and a GG Weirdnob/Boss dual kit. Along with a warscroll rewrite for different weapon loadouts for GG and Brutes and that might be just enough units for me.

I'm confident that the basic Moonclan Grots are not getting reboxed to larger than the 25mm that they come with now and we're reboxed to already for AOS. They would be swimming on 32s IMO. Overall it's what I expected more or less, except that I'm surprised that GW redid the already plastic and serviceable Fanatics. I'll just buy the new ones for the spore option. The terrain is the highlight for me so far. Really characterful. Can't wait for Troggoths to be previewed as well. I'm also glad that I've held off building 100+ Grots as I'm wondering if those days are behind us.

No direct experience but within the context of Wanderers, I would think that the extra rend of Scythes would be particularly valuable.

The basic Orruk still holds up pretty well, even to their 40k counterpart, and the boar boys are great sculpts. Bundle them with the Warboss and a couple of mad max dual-kits and you have a decent new faction. The fact that Greenskinz were one of the earliest SC and they continue to be sold in GW retail stores that have limited shelf space suggests that GW has a long term plan for them. Gitmob I agree is likely to become a start from scratch as the existing plastic kit really shows it's age and there is nothing to really salvage.

My theory for Gitmob and Greenskinz is that we'll end up with 40k-lite versions of them for AOS. They will be the higher tech side of Destruction.

I think it's the fact that it is small faction (unit wise) with little variety and is expensive to collect as much as anything. One new dual-kit for Fyreslayers and Ironjawz would make both much more collectible and interesting to play. Ironjawz have remained more popular because there are no real alternatives in Destruction since release. Just my opinions of course.

Is the art for the Shadespire Audio Drama new as well or was it recycled?

I feel like there must be some long term plan for Greenskinz, mostly because it would seem very unusual that they have had a Start Collecting set from the beginning, and its still being sold in GW stores.

It seems reasonable that book-only releases could move around in terms of schedule a fair amount. I would expect however that model releases are moved less frequently.

I've always thought that Beastmen were underrated models. Glad and surprised that they are getting a battletome.

It's so wide at the shoulders that it would have to be very short to fit on a 40mm base. I think that it is at least a 50mm base as well.