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I’m just going to take those bits and make them fit onto the models somehow. Even just glued to the side of the horses for example would be ok

Anyone got any ideas for chosen conversions? I was thinking of using deathshroud terminators and then converting them to get rid of the 40k stuff potentially. Any thoughts?

I feel like warriors just got better value with the amount of mortal wound output tzeentch can kick out along with the shooting from KO. Warriors are going to be able to stand up to that punishment far more than marauders in my view.

Even GW can’t be that inept and let that happen. Don’t believe that somehow

It make sense and explains why the max unit discounts have been removed

I have used him yeah. He pretty much walked through a slaanesh army by himself along with my 40 marauders. His damage potential is quite a lot higher now with the additional rend and the + to hit on dhorgar. Still need to work out if he is actually worth the 800 points now - the death frenzy command ability is also really useful especially on marauders

Hey guys, what are we thinking to the new lord on karkadrak? 250 seems quite steep for him competitively in my view. Anyone got any build ideas apart from the obvious - lots of knights?

What do we think about dates for the next preview then? I reckon they might leave it a few weeks now, especially if it is going to be a mid December release

I have tried and failed to make any decent lists with the drake - it’s quite frustrating. One idea I had was to run a ballista core alongside it but then that leaves you with barely any units to take objectives.

Can we agree to move on now, it’s got boring just watching this go round in circles for days on end. It’s literally a pointless discussion how it is now and we are just wasting energy on something that does not matter. Accept there are differing opinions and can we move on please....

Tbh I think you are just arguing for the sake of it now. @PJetski has provided very clear explanations of how to use that deployment and the birds to good effect to counter pretty much every scenario and army in the current meta.

Hes good in the right list - i tend to run him with staunch and ignax scales making him extremely difficult to kill with the right support. List i am going to try is: LCoSD - 560 Castellent - 120 Ordinator - 140 Relictor - 100 (Translocation) Libs 3x5 - 300 Ballista x3 - 330 Evocators x10 - 440 Not sue if it will be incredible but seems fairly solid in my head haha

Having had some time to think a bit more about the list i posted - I'm not sure i like the idea of alpha strike/gav bomb due to the inherent risks of it going wrong and also it clearly doesn't work in the current meta. I do find list building with stormcast very difficult at the moment i have to admit - beyond the desolator or anvil strike lists i really struggle to come up with anything that feels like its viable. I find myself trying to build a TAC list even though i know that this list doesn't really work in the current meta

Hey all Been thinking about how to make a competitive hammers list using gavriel. This is what I have come up with so far - what do people think?

Hi Chaps I have a tournament coming up at the end of the month and I am thinking of taking the following list: Slaughterhost - Reapers of Vengence Archaon - 660 Bloodstoker - 80 Secrator - 140 Priest (Bronzed flesh) - 100 Bloodthirster of Unfettered Fury (Crimson Crown, Mage Eater) - 300 Bloodreavers 2x10 - 140 Bloodletters x30 - 300 Varanguard - 260 Total - 1980 I know the Varanguard aren't optimal at all, but as they are my favourite unit in the game i would love to take them with me - plus Archaon actually makes them half decent. The general plan is to use Archaon to wreck face with all the buffs and have the thirster shenanigans to get round FEC and Slaanesh rubbish with the letters and Varanguard backing them up. Interested to hear peoples feedback and thoughts on viability etc

If you go back a few pages there’s a good debate on that very subject. Basically it depends on which Stormhost and play style you prefer. Feels like both are viable choices depending on how you support them - personally I’m in the desolators camp due to better defence and chip damage potential

Completely on board with this! Yes tournament statistics on the whole may look like we are struggling but it’s going to be skewed by how many people play stormcast and, assuming they might be newer tournament gamers, won’t be winning all their games. Im no tournament player and would not class myself as a good player but I see a lot of tournament lists are still taking the same stuff and tactics that haven’t been working for a while now in the current meta, and it’s only the ones who have innovated (Pjetski for example) who seem to be able to pick up consistent wins against the current “big bois” of the scene. There’s probably a lesson in that somewhere for a lot of us 🤔.

This argument resurfaces every few pages and it seems pretty futile. Surely we would be better to focus our efforts on coming up with new ideas for stormcast lists and bouncing ideas around generally. Negativity will get us no where I feel. There are plenty of other armies to play if you don’t think stormcast are any good 😂

Leodis%20stormcast%20%35%20%2D%20Drakesworn%20. So based on our earlier discussion I have pulled together a list I think I might take to a tournament at the end of the month: It’s based on using the lord arcanum as a potential buffet and mini beatstick. Plenty of shooting power with the Templar’s ability combined with desolators and ballista. Should allow me to deal with FeC and slaanesh more than my other ideas I have come up with so far. Thank you to everyone on here for providing some great ideas and thought provoking content. Feedback welcome

I agree the +1 to hit is very situational and not easy to pull off. In its favour it has the +2 to run CA for additional mobility and plenty of wounds for spirit flasks. I just love the model so have been trying to find a way to make it fit into a list over the Drakesworn Templar haha. Havent looked into the Hurricanum yet though.

Thanks for the feedback - very interesting to see! One concept I was thinking was trying to run the Lord Arcanum on Tauralon with 6 desolators and 3 ballista + ordinator. Idea behind it would be to have him as a mini beatstick who can keep up with the desolators and in some circumstances give you the +1 to hit on the breath attack whilst providing cycle of the storm protection. The question is what support heroes would you run......

I like the look of the Anvilstrike list you use, but as you say its probably quite a skill based list when you factor in playing the objectives and mobility. Would you agree its not an easy list to use to its full potential? I find it interesting that barely anyone is using it in tournaments that I have seen recently (Bobo, AOS 6 nations etc). I love Sequitors and Evocators but as people are pointing out on here they just dont seem to perform as well in the current meta which is a shame. On another note - i used the Drakesworn and Desolator list against Skaven Pestillans the other week on Relocation Orb and won. The scenario isnt exactly balanced and plays into Stormcasts hands in my opinion being only 1 objective, (especially as the objective bounced my way ) but the list performed well and a unit of 6 Desolators in particular were very good - great mix of offensive capability and better defence than battlecats.

The discussion is settled now so it’s a fairly pointless debate 😊. It isn’t crystal clear is probably the point but the faq clears it up which is great

So I saw a comment on a post on Facebook from GW that confirmed the +2 attacks every turn he’s off the board - I saw it after I posted the comment above unfortunately. Wording on primes warscroll really isn’t very clear though.

Doesnt the Prime only get a flat +2 attacks now if hes left in reserve turn 2?