Donal

That's fair, but Ian's list looks like so much fun to play. Like all the fun

Ian Spink has already won by bringing bonesplittas

GROTS ARE DA BEST! Thanks for the shout out @Malakree @Mcthew - have you found the advice useful? Do you have an idea of what sort of play style you are interested in and how to improve the army? Think there has been some good advice here, but no sure if you have actionable steps to take next?

I meant point investment not £££ (you're crazy - in the best way - for the whole 6th ed fandom)

2 units of 5 to psych your opponent out. If you put 1 unit of 10 he will know where your fanatics are. I'd actually have been tempted by 3 units of 5 I like Fimir as a battleline choice, but its a heavy investment but they just aint no grots. Yes I have grot a problem ...

i think this is the best list you can run: Allegiance: DestructionFungoid Cave-Shaman (80)Moonclan Grot Shaman (80)Troggoth Hag (380)- Allies40 x Moonclan Grots (260)- Pokin Spears & Moon Shields20 x Cave Squigs (240)3 x Grot Fanatics (100)3 x Grot Fanatics (100)5 x Grot Squig Hoppers (80)5 x Grot Squig Hoppers (80)Mangler Squigs (240)Colossal Squig (300)Total: 1940 / 2000Extra Command Points: 1Allies: 380 / 400Wounds: 156 Fanatics go in 1 unit of moonclan grots, and in 1 of the hoppers I think you need 80 more grots. As it stands having the hag as an ally means that you can't give her an artefact.

To add to @mcbrain there are several scenarios that require a Hero / Hero with Artefact / Monster. The Frostlord is the best choice within destruction to fulfil this role (in my opinion) in those games, and in other games his movement/damage output means hes a great threat. A magma dragon while awesome (and prob much better damage output) he doesnt help on the hero/hero artefact scenarios.

I am Donal, and I approve of this name

Marc, we don't disagree that SLL are the AoS King of Brighton, but Brighton isn't London. And SLL are not Londoners. nice of you guys to travel all the way to the new venue in london though, much appreciated

I don't believe there is a Grot tome. GW is just trolling us. Anyway grots are da best, who needs new models

It's a great list :D

Destruction gives satisfaction to those who play it. Winning with Daughters of Khaine = snore Winning with Ironjawz, BCR, Grots = GLORY Jokes aside, there seems to be 2 competitive lists at the moment. Ian Spink @Kanamorf is having success with Bonespittas. I'm having success with Mixed Destruction (negs to hit and grots). I don't have enough knowledge to talk his list & success . My list is focused on redundancy in the debuffs. I have: 1) -1 to hit throughout units (netters which have an aura effect so can protect characters) 2) native -1 to hit on characters (hag and fungoid) 3) geminids 4) Hag spell 1 and 2 mean I don't need to rely on spells. The other aspect that makes my list work, is that I swamp the board with bodies. Combination of debuffs to combat, in a combat meta, alongside alot of bodies is what is helping my success. But Death could easily achieve some negs to hit list with a combination of Neferata and geminids, and Chaos can achieve it with legion of azoreth/plaguebearers all have native -1's to hit. I don't think order can really achieve it as they dont have alot of negs to hit. That said, as a destruction lover, I really don't think we do things "better" than other armies. Our units are overpriced, lack the native synergies or range that other units have. Compare Gitmob Artillery vs Ballista's. B's are 20 points cheaper, can drop from sky and is one model (not seperate crew), does more reliable damage. if you want to play destruction do it for the love of it, but it's a grind and takes a while to get a handle of it. Both Ian & I have been playing our armies for a long time.

That event was the 6 nations. It was a super fun event, arguably less competitive than Facehammer because the rules were so silly. having went to both, taken the 192 damage grot and done relatively well at Facehammer I feel like I’m well positioned to say that. in terms of list strength my facehammer destruction list is WAY better than my damage stacking moonclan list. The other event was a team one so I didn’t have to worry quite as much about bad match ups. re: the soft list rationale, dan ford played murderhost, the same army he has had success with for 2 years. He finished 4th, a similar position that he’s always had. The legion of blood player finished 6th, the seraphon thunderquake list was on table 1 game 4 but I think had 2 losses Sunday. Those lists were there they just didn’t finish in top 5. Thank goodness we have competitive events with mixed lists doing well cause I wouldn’t want to play in an environment where only 4-5 lists need to be played for it to be competitive.

My main point of the tournament is to see friends. Sure I enjoy competing, but the highlight of my weekend was chatting to my NI mates who I don’t see often enough, meeting Domus & Tom from the US and seeing a bunch of mates from the scene that I haven’t seen for anything between 2 months to a year.

score objectives, win the scenario, vomit and kill things with frostlord. Tie up and debuff the heavy hitters