Donal

no combination with troggboss is utter filth...

I'd easily be able to go 4-1 at a tournament with Gits. Just not sure I can do the debuffing horde anymore. For my soul. Fed up with never finishing a game early. Thinking a monster mash could be a fun way to go, very tempted to go back to mixed destruction and including a frostlord again.

I think this is really exciting Ben so kudos on putting it together. Format: I think the knockout style works well (basically what Chris did for Dorset masters and I'm copying for London). Eligibility/Rankings: I understand the appeal for using the UK rankings system next year but it could limit the audience and if you are looking for CrossFit style may be better going more ambitious and creating an international masters (the Master for each country qualifies). Way more expensive, so potentially is something to consider for future years. Build Up and Coverage What is going to set the format apart is much more coverage & streaming. Twitch seems to be the best place for streaming and I'd look to piggyback on existing audiences. The two clear choices for experienced commentating (which I think is essential to make it a success in the UK are WHTV team & The Honest Wargamer team). I like both, and they have good pros/cons which I won't get into here. I think creating a social media coverage to make it more of a "live streaming" event, combined with on side large TVs is the way to go. You can create alot of tension & build up for the Final by doing list run downs, getting "experts" on to cover the factions. interviews with the finalists, and creating drama. Getting GT participants to Watch Final In some ways this could be a big challenge. Even with the best intentions i know after 3 games of AoS the last thing I want to do is watch more AOS... Might be worth considering doing something radical (event wise) and only do 2 games on Saturday to allow for streaming the final. Though that could be an issue as many may not want 3 games on a Sunday.

That's fair, but Ian's list looks like so much fun to play. Like all the fun

Ian Spink has already won by bringing bonesplittas

GROTS ARE DA BEST! Thanks for the shout out @Malakree @Mcthew - have you found the advice useful? Do you have an idea of what sort of play style you are interested in and how to improve the army? Think there has been some good advice here, but no sure if you have actionable steps to take next?

I meant point investment not £££ (you're crazy - in the best way - for the whole 6th ed fandom)

2 units of 5 to psych your opponent out. If you put 1 unit of 10 he will know where your fanatics are. I'd actually have been tempted by 3 units of 5 I like Fimir as a battleline choice, but its a heavy investment but they just aint no grots. Yes I have grot a problem ...

i think this is the best list you can run: Allegiance: DestructionFungoid Cave-Shaman (80)Moonclan Grot Shaman (80)Troggoth Hag (380)- Allies40 x Moonclan Grots (260)- Pokin Spears & Moon Shields20 x Cave Squigs (240)3 x Grot Fanatics (100)3 x Grot Fanatics (100)5 x Grot Squig Hoppers (80)5 x Grot Squig Hoppers (80)Mangler Squigs (240)Colossal Squig (300)Total: 1940 / 2000Extra Command Points: 1Allies: 380 / 400Wounds: 156 Fanatics go in 1 unit of moonclan grots, and in 1 of the hoppers I think you need 80 more grots. As it stands having the hag as an ally means that you can't give her an artefact.

To add to @mcbrain there are several scenarios that require a Hero / Hero with Artefact / Monster. The Frostlord is the best choice within destruction to fulfil this role (in my opinion) in those games, and in other games his movement/damage output means hes a great threat. A magma dragon while awesome (and prob much better damage output) he doesnt help on the hero/hero artefact scenarios.

I am Donal, and I approve of this name

Marc, we don't disagree that SLL are the AoS King of Brighton, but Brighton isn't London. And SLL are not Londoners. nice of you guys to travel all the way to the new venue in london though, much appreciated

I don't believe there is a Grot tome. GW is just trolling us. Anyway grots are da best, who needs new models

It's a great list :D

Destruction gives satisfaction to those who play it. Winning with Daughters of Khaine = snore Winning with Ironjawz, BCR, Grots = GLORY Jokes aside, there seems to be 2 competitive lists at the moment. Ian Spink @Kanamorf is having success with Bonespittas. I'm having success with Mixed Destruction (negs to hit and grots). I don't have enough knowledge to talk his list & success . My list is focused on redundancy in the debuffs. I have: 1) -1 to hit throughout units (netters which have an aura effect so can protect characters) 2) native -1 to hit on characters (hag and fungoid) 3) geminids 4) Hag spell 1 and 2 mean I don't need to rely on spells. The other aspect that makes my list work, is that I swamp the board with bodies. Combination of debuffs to combat, in a combat meta, alongside alot of bodies is what is helping my success. But Death could easily achieve some negs to hit list with a combination of Neferata and geminids, and Chaos can achieve it with legion of azoreth/plaguebearers all have native -1's to hit. I don't think order can really achieve it as they dont have alot of negs to hit. That said, as a destruction lover, I really don't think we do things "better" than other armies. Our units are overpriced, lack the native synergies or range that other units have. Compare Gitmob Artillery vs Ballista's. B's are 20 points cheaper, can drop from sky and is one model (not seperate crew), does more reliable damage. if you want to play destruction do it for the love of it, but it's a grind and takes a while to get a handle of it. Both Ian & I have been playing our armies for a long time.