JackStreicher

I was distracted, I wanted to write lion

More like a crane avatar with a sea on its shoulders, a dragon avatar with a volcano on its shoulders and a lion (edit) Avatar with the whole of Africa on its shoulders 🤣

They just look really cool...

Almost all the range needs a 20%-30% points drop to be on par with the majority of other factions. (Except obvious choices like Marauders and the Sorcerer Lord) tbh we‘d also need just a few rules rewrites.

I hope it‘s something else Death related since the molten bone + crystal exists for a number of Death models that are older than Ossiarchs (all the end times Models) =}

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/03/31/the-rumour-engine-march-31st-2020/ Nice! The Axe of a Vampire Knight? Even if not it‘ll at least be a Death unit for certain!

You Sir do not understand figures of speech and it does not seem like you understood what I said at all. but that‘s fine by me. cheers jack

I‘ve been thinking about why these aelves bother me so much. So I‘ll share my opinion one last time and then let the topic rest: GW teases us with story bits of a new High Elf faction. Then we get to see 3 Units that actually look like really well re-imagined High Aelves (Spearmen, Riders, Eltharion). And then we get more Lore about how the Lumineth tried to remake the culture of Ulthuan. The next release is suddenly rather weird and very Arabic (Teclis). Then the whole faction makes a 180 degree turn and suddenly is tibethan and Chinese. And then they build giant Cow spirits!? what was that part about Ulthuan? Why are these even called aelves!? Why were we teased with new high aelves just to be shown the middle finger with something that‘s totally not even their aesthetic anymore? Imo that was a pretty mean deception towards us as customers. I‘d like the cow spirit in pretty much any other army, it‘s a good model. If they‘d just said: Well, here‘s a new faction and they‘re not even aelves but cow people so we can expand our business more towards the Asian market. That‘d be fine. But don‘t tease your customers with new somewhat high aelves just to show them the middle finger and Kick them out of the door with the final message „High Aelves are dead, fool, what were you thinking?“ that‘s my last word on this

That actually looks cool. Yet I doubt you can even remove the mountain from its back.

The cows would look great, in a not aelven army. (Slaanesh Beastmen) I‘d love to put the rider helms on all the infantry including the archer garden-gnome caps. ^^

That‘d be cool!

There is: Visual cues, silhouettes etc. and I‘ll stop right here. Explaining all readings about Design is not what I am here for...

I actually do, I am not sure you do to be honest? The part about design is not based on my opinion or feeling but on Design Theory and teachings.

@Beliman that‘s another crutch: Aelves stealing hammers for their cattle 🤣

Imo this should be (including a Batallion) the size of a 2.000 points Slaves to Darkness Army (it‘s ~2600 pts) (who can spot the conversions I did? :D)

That‘s not the case. I can paint old Empire units, dwarves and High Elves with the same color scheme and they‘ll look like they belong together. Yet you can easily see that they‘re too different. This range is the exact same. The only good units of this faction are the riders and Eltharion (which look like they belong to the same army). The rest is a mess of a incoherent design. Yet I do not think GW is really that bad at designing to really make a mistake like that, which is why I expect more Tyrionic models with the Rider and Eltharion style and alternative heads for both archers and spearmen. This way you‘d have a equal core for both sub-cultures. Though if that is not the case then this design is an objective fail. Yes some might like it, some might not yet that doesn‘t change that it’s technically a bad design of a magnitude GW has never done it across an entire army. It‘d be like Namartii wearing pot-helmets while everyone else wears an almost Corinthian helmet and the king wears a jester‘s cap while the riders atop the Leviadon are using frying pans. - it‘s all European yet it does not work for an army that‘s supposed to look like it belongs together.

Thanks for actually confirming what I said.

My biggest issue apart from cows totally not fitting to aelves no matter the explanation is: the army looks incoherent. Riders and Eltharion have good looking elegant helmets. All of the rest took part in The “who wears the ugliest hat“ contest. The army looks incoherent, only held together by the milky color scheme and the somewhat lookalike skirts.

I was thinking that the split release was done due to Tyrion getting his aelves added which would explain the overall incoherent design (helmets): Riders, Bowmen and Spearmen are core units shared across all subfactions Eltharion and the Veiled Lady is a hero Shared across all subfactions Cow-Blandness (Spirits, Hammerers and the Bad Keepers of Moo) are For the Stone Subculture only. So Tyrion would get: Tyrion and Heavy Infantry/Knights, a big Monster (Please just be a dragon or some entirely new creature no animal of clumsiness and boredom like a cow...)

Where will you get the hair from? ^^

That‘s just the way they should have been. put a Wraithknight head. on that ugly cow avatar and it might look good.

1, 2, 6, 7 and 8 = Chaos Chosen for Chaos Undivided 4 =Chaos Sorcerer Lord 3 and 5= Chaos Barbarians/ Flaggelants

Oh LOL I‘ve rarely seen so much ugly in my life on a single day. I am out.

Sigmar, those Lumineth are ugly as hell... I am out.