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  1. Ravinsild
    I think the strength of the bravery bomb list is that it forces a clutch decision. Command points are a limited resource, and if you’re loose with using them then you won’t have any to use Inspiring Presence anyway. If you have some, it makes you have a tough choice, because you can spend the one you have to save your unit and not have it on your next turn, and only generate 1 but you might need 2 or so to get off multiple command traits from different leaders. I think it puts a pressure point on the enemy. Like for me: I play Ironjawz so I like to stack them up and use them for Waagh! Or as Khorne Bloodbound literally... almost all of my leaders have extremely worthwhile command points. It’s like, “He killed 2 brutes and my bravery is 6 so now it’s 1, I could lose the whole unit... but I need them here and now to stop them from getting over there... do I save for a waaaagh or do I save these brutes...?” So I don’t know. It think like with all things it will be more effective against some armies than others, but similarly it might be super effective against some armies as well.
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    So are we getting a new Battletome too I hope? As for “inventive kits” are we getting maybe mortal wound protection? Shooting? How much are they willing to shake up Ironjawz whose entire theme is allegedly just really huge Orks who hit things and hit them hard in melee.
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    I mean. No you don’t. I have literally 0 demons and never will. I’ve been collecting Khorne Bloodbound/mortals since September 2017 and even though Bloodletter Bomb and all that was the cool kid way to play I just don’t like the way the demons look. Even if they make the demons hit and wound on 1 ups and give them 15 wounds each I still won’t buy Bloodletters or those stupid looking dogs. The only demon I like for any of the Chaos gods at all is the Bloodthirster. I’ll eventually get 3 and SKARBRAND. However conversely: they can make Lord of Khorne on Juggernaut, Wrath Mongers, Skullreapers, Blood Warriors and Mighty Skullcrushers all have 1 wound each, hitting on 6’s and wounding on 6’s and I’ll still love my Khorne Mortals. Why? Because them sucking or being good in game doesn’t make them any less ****** epic looking. I just genuinely love and am passionate for the aesthetics of the models themselves. Thats the way I play. I pick models I enjoy and love the look of and play with those and find my own way of playing and my own lists. I don’t net list. I ask for advice and opinions, but at the end of the day I’m trying to play my way and find my own way to win using what I personally love. Gore Pilgrims may be our only good Battalion but it won’t stop me from trying out The Goretide, Slaughterborn, Skulltake, Brass Stampede and even Dark Feast for fun. I want to try them all out for several games and find my own unique way to win. I just can’t leave home without my Skullreapers and Mighty Skullcrushers.
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    I changed up my list a little bit to try an interesting tactic. I dropped some endless spells and a Lord of Chaos. I added back a Gorebeast-Chariot because they just look so cool! I then added the Gravetide! Then I made my Chaos Lord on Demonic Mount my General right? Then I gave him the Command Trait Lord of Terror and put on him the helm of the oppressor! Now I will crash my Lord on Mount and Chaos Knights into a unit and Gravetide that unit for a combined -5 to bravery! I hope I get my tax return soon so I can get this Slaves to Darkness army ASAP and try it out!
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    Basically the long and short of it is: I always take a premise that’s essentially narrative/themed and then try to min/max it, and the theme for this army is mostly based on this https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Chaos-Chosen-Team-Collection-2018-eng They can also get 1 Minotaur as their “big guy”. I have a massive Khorne collection but I kind of just want to use the regular awesome Chaos models. For Gore Pilgrims I would have to completely change the leaders and it would make my casting really difficult. I wanted an excuse to use the regular Lord of Chaos model, the mounted one and the Darkoath queen. I also just wanted an excuse to collect basic Chaos Warriors and Knights because I love the models and I can supplement them into my Khorne Mortals/Bloodbound when I run that. For this though I just wanted pure “regular” chaos without any particular gods influence. I’m not sure if there’s a “Black Legion”/Chaos Undivided or United or whatever/unmarked.
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    Warcraft 2 Horde seems sort of mildly incompatible. Dragon Riders would probably be a regular warboss on wyvern or maybe maw-krusha with some imagination. I guess you could take allies for a few ogres, but are there any ogres mages in the whole game? Grunts would probably just be ‘Ardboys but then there’s like summon daemon which is for sure chaos and a bunch of just like death and necromancy from the acolytes and warlocks which Destruction just doesn’t have like death knights and acolytes and so on. Also there is no troll axe thrower or berserker equivalent I know of or goblin sappers. Still it could probably be done with some creativity and some conversions
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    You’re asking a Khorne main why not Tzeentch? It’s because I hate Sorcery just as much as him! It pains me enough to have used the mark of slaneesh. I mostly just want to run them as Khorne.
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    It’s mostly just a habit because I almost always build for MSU. Since it doesn’t change the points should I make it a blob of 20 Besties and a blob of 10 CW? Personally I always prefer MSU as it maximizes my chances of attacking with everyone in the unit and provide more units to split across the table and grab objectives. I guess whenever I’m able to buy this army I can try it out in multiple ways.
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    Here: https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Khorne-Bloodbound-Lord-on-Juggernaut if your store is an official Games Workshop store just go into the store. They should have a computer. Type “Lord of Khorne on Juggernaut” and this should come up. Put it in the cart and order it. Shipping will be free and it will arrive at the store pretty quickly. Pick it up next time you drop by.
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    Well my battle report will be brutal but very short. At the end of the 4th round I tabled the dispossessed player. I lost a total of 4 brutes and 5 Gore-Gruntas. An overwhelming victory. I didn’t lose a single complete unit at all. I was able to make excellent use of smashing and bashing and took out his guns early. He also miscalculated removing some models which helped me rampaging destruction with my Maw-Krusha in the 3rd round.
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    So.... do all my leaders fall under the Battalion or literally only the Battleline?
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    The Lord of Chaos on foot or the Mounted one? Also, thanks for the feedback. I think I'll keep cogs and remove the rest. That'll free up 80 points but I don't know what to spend them on. @Greven How does this list look? Allegiance: Slaves To DarknessLeadersChaos Lord On Daemonic Mount (140)- Mark of Chaos: SlaaneshChaos Sorcerer Lord (160)- Runestaff- Mark of Chaos: SlaaneshDarkoath Warqueen (80)- General- Mark of Chaos: SlaaneshLord Of Chaos (140)- Mark of Chaos: SlaaneshBattleline5 x Chaos Warriors (90)- Hand Weapon & Shield- Mark of Chaos: Slaanesh5 x Chaos Warriors (90)- Hand Weapon & Shield- Mark of Chaos: Slaanesh5 x Chaos Knights (160)- Ensorcelled Weapons- Mark of Chaos: Slaanesh5 x Chaos Knights (160)- Ensorcelled Weapons- Mark of Chaos: Slaanesh5 x Chaos Knights (160)- Chaos Glaives- Mark of Chaos: Slaanesh1 x Chaos Chariots (80)- Greatblades- Mark of Chaos: SlaaneshUnits1 x Chaos Gorebeast Chariots (100)- War Flail- Mark of Chaos: Slaanesh3 x Bullgors (160)- Great Axes- Allies10 x Bestigors (120)- Allies10 x Bestigors (120)- AlliesBattalionsRuinbringer Warband (180)Endless SpellsChronomantic Cogs (60)Total: 2000 / 2000Extra Command Points: 1Allies: 400 / 400Wounds: 135
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    I've got a game against some Dispossessed tomorrow. I've never played them before, and I also have no Endless Spells or the Fungoid Cave Shaman atm. I've got 40 Ardboys, 25 Brutes, the 15 I am planning on bringing are all dual-wielding but I also have 10 with the 2 handed weapons. I've got 9 Gore-Gruntas. I've only got 1 megaboss on foot atm and 1 maw-krusha, but I have 4 shaman and 3 Warchanters. This is the list I was going to bring, but I'm not sure which command trait or artefacts to bring. I don't actually know what dispossessed do at all really. Allegiance: IronjawzLeadersMegaboss on Maw-Krusha (440)- GeneralOrruk Megaboss (140)Orruk Weirdnob Shaman (120)Orruk Warchanter (80)Orruk Warchanter (80)Battleline5 x Orruk Brutes (180) - Boss Klaw & Smasha, and double Choppas- 1x Gore Choppas5 x Orruk Brutes (180) - Boss Klaw & Smasha, and double Choppas- 1x Gore Choppas5 x Orruk Brutes (180) - Boss Klaw & Smasha, and double Choppas- 1x Gore Choppas3 x Orruk Gore Gruntas (140) - Pig Iron Choppa3 x Orruk Gore Gruntas (140) - Pig Iron Choppa3 x Orruk Gore Gruntas (140) - Pig Iron ChoppaBattalionsIronfist (180)Total: 2000 / 2000Extra Command Points: 1Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 129
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    I bought the Resin model from Games-Workshop. Last I checked it’s web order only but it’s still available unless I got the last one or something...
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    I was taking the lord of chaos on foot so the army could run and charge with his command ability. Does that overlap with the battalion though? I picked Gors because they look the most like the Beastmen lineman from a Chaos Blood Bowl team and Bestigors were too expensive points-wise.
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    So I love Blood Bowl and all I've wanted is just a classic Blood Bowl themed army. Just Goatmen, Minotaurs and Chaos Warriors. So I came up with this list. Is it absolute garbage that will never ever win a single vs anyone or could it actually work? Allegiance: Slaves To DarknessLeadersChaos Lord On Daemonic Mount (140)- Mark of Chaos: SlaaneshLord Of Chaos (140)- Mark of Chaos: SlaaneshDarkoath Warqueen (80)- GeneralChaos Sorcerer Lord (160)- Runestaff- Mark of Chaos: Tzeentch- Lore of Fate: Bolt of TzeentchBattleline5 x Chaos Knights (160)- Ensorcelled Weapons- Mark of Chaos: Slaanesh5 x Chaos Knights (160)- Ensorcelled Weapons- Mark of Chaos: Slaanesh5 x Chaos Knights (160)- Ensorcelled Weapons- Mark of Chaos: Slaanesh5 x Chaos Warriors (90)- Hand Weapon & Shield- Mark of Chaos: Slaanesh5 x Chaos Warriors (90)- Hand Weapon & Shield- Mark of Chaos: SlaaneshUnits10 x Gors (80)- Two Gor-Blades- Allies10 x Gors (80)- Two Gor-Blades- Allies1 x Chaos Gorebeast Chariots (100)- Greatblade- Mark of Chaos: Slaanesh1 x Chaos Gorebeast Chariots (100)- Greatblade- Mark of Chaos: Slaanesh3 x Bullgors (160)- Pairs of Axes- AlliesBattalionsRuinbringer Warband (180)Endless SpellsChronomantic Cogs (60)Geminids of Uhl-Gysh (40)Soulsnare Shackles (20)Total: 2000 / 2000Extra Command Points: 1Allies: 320 / 400Wounds: 136
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    What's the best way to run a Gorefist? Apparently this is now our go-to battalion as opposed to Ironfist? And/or Weirdfist. This is great though, more options and ways to play! I like Ironfist (bloodtoofs too), Weirdfist AND Gorefist. I wouldn't hate trying out a Brutefist just to see for myself why nobody uses it, and Ardfist seems like it has some potential for...something. Anyway: What's the typical Gorefist list look like? I've heard tale of 2 Maw-Krusha lists or ways to use the Fist of Gork Mr. Gordrakk himself? I also find it interesting how the beginning of this thread began with a lot of Bloodtoof lists with Cogs, and people were fairly certain that was the best way to go, but now allegedly Gorefist and Weirdfist are the best ways to go. What changed since then?
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    But..my inquiry wasn't about how to defeat Tzeentch It was how to effectively use Chaos Knights and Chaos Warriors or any of the other Mortal Units with Khorne Bloodbound, including the Chariots or any of the leaders. They just have some cool models and I was curious about their place or viability within a Khorne army. As I understand it, Khorne is probably in the same place as Ironjawz: Middle Tier. Not the worst, but definitely not the best. Just somewhere in the middle, aka "fine". In other words: for an army that's already not amazing, do normal Chaos units offer enough to bring or in any way enhance our list to boost them and make them stronger, or is it more dead weight to an already weakish faction?
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    I asked this in Slaves to Darkness, but I'll ask here, for all Khorne players to see and get their opinions: Is there any situation in which one might take Chaos Warriors or Chaos Knights? (Or any of the other dudes, like a basic Lord of Chaos, etc..) For me, personally, I'm having trouble figuring out Blood Warriors place in Khorne Bloodbound. I like the models a lot, I think they're really cool, but I find they're slow and often don't really make it into combat, and I'm not sure what to do with them. I've also learned to respect mortal wounds and things like Skaven with lots of mortal wound generation, the Chaos Warriors with their shields seem like a really tasty defensive objective holding unit. Thoughts or opinions on normal chaos boys place in a Khorne list as opposed to the strictly dedicated? (I don't play demons so I have no comment on any of the demon units.) PS: Is there any shooting or artillery units worth it for Khorne?
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    Take my “advice” with a barrel of salt, however: in the lore and like 3 seconds of reading I’ve done because I really want to collect this army it seems like they fight with Bleakswords out front, Spearmen behind those and then Darkshards behind those. So maybe trade 20 Darkshards for 20 Bleakswords or Spearmen as a screen to block charging? You can still shoot into combat unlike 40k. It might help?
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    Yes that was explained to me on my first game of AoS 2. As you can tell I have not played much AoS, mostly 40k but I like AoS more now. Between Khorne Bloodbound and Ironjawz I really think I’ve found my armies. Even though I started in September 2017 to GW Games starting with Blood Bowl table top, and I had an entire Khorne army, I only ever played 10 or less games. Now I’m trying to get Games in weekly because I just really love my Ironjawz.
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    I've read this sentence several times over, but is there any way you could say it differently? I keep getting mildly confused. What I *think* you are saying is that now, models need only be within 1", and not base to base, for their 1" weapons to hit, so it is now easier to use 1" weapons? Base to base contact is no longer strictly required?
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    That's a good point. I love the Mighty Lord of Khorne but using him would take me 20 over the cap unfortunately. However I could use a Bloodstoker.
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    Yeah, I like Blood Warriors are "ok" but I have a hard time finding a purpose or spot for them. My Skullreapers just murder everything in literal droves and I adore them, and my Bloodreavers are weak chaff, but they get consecutive buffs and can at least lay down a bit of hurt and fuel my blood tithe, plus they can grab objectives. They're disposable but versatile. Chaos Warriors to me are appealing because of that mortal wound save and they just feel pretty sturdy. I do like how when Blood Warriors die they're allowed to fight anyway, so they never feel wasted per-say, but they also never seem to be amazing. Chaos Warriors feel like they bring a unique amount of defensive tankiness that Khorne doesn't exactly have. That's why I had my eye on them. TBH I have a theory crafted list like this: Allegiance: KhorneMortal Realm: AqshyLeadersLord Of Khorne On Juggernaut (140)- General- Trait: Violent Urgency - Artefact: Talisman of Burning Blood Slaughterpriest with Hackblade and Wrathhammer (100)- Blood Blessing: Killing FrenzyBloodsecrator (140)- Banner of Khorne (Artefact): Banner of RageAspiring Deathbringer with Goreaxe and Skullhammer (100)Chaos Lord On Daemonic Mount (140)- Mark of Chaos: KhorneBattleline3 x Mighty Skullcrushers (140)- Bloodglaives3 x Mighty Skullcrushers (140)- Bloodglaives3 x Mighty Skullcrushers (140)- Bloodglaives3 x Mighty Skullcrushers (140)- Bloodglaives3 x Mighty Skullcrushers (140)- BloodglaivesUnits5 x Chaos Knights (160)- Chaos Glaives- Mark of Chaos: Khorne5 x Chaos Knights (160)- Chaos Glaives- Mark of Chaos: Khorne5 x Chaos Knights (160)- Chaos Glaives- Mark of Chaos: KhorneBattalionsBrass Stampede (200)Total: 2000 / 2000Extra Command Points: 1Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 151 I do not expect this to be the most competitive list, but I think it would look incredible as an all mounted force and might do somewhat decently.
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    I’ve been keeping my eye on Slaves to Darkness models because I really love how Chaos Warriors and Chaos Knights look. Is there any place for them in a typical Gore Pilgrims Khorne Bloodbound list of mortals? Are Chaos Warriors a good replacement for a defensive wall versus Blood Warriors? How about Knights? Anything else of note that could help bring something cool or new to a normal Khorne Bloodbound Army?
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