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Interesting to note - one of the pages has big title SKIRMISH with pictures under it of a whole selection of the getting started boxed sets! Sounds like AoS Skirmish is going to be a bit bigger than Killteam!

Ahh I never played Warmaster, but I did love their models and honestly GW had some of the best looking small scale fantasy models in that range. Plus it had GW behind it - most other 10 or 15mm fantasy games are tiny in support and often a case of rules from one company models from another. There's some great ones out there, but by and large its an ignored segment of the market. Thing is Warmaster style AoS could easily use movement trays and have formation movement, wheeling and flank attacks and the like. Ergo it could bring back a lot of what old fantasy had, at a scale that lets you build large armies without breaking the bank. It's a win win situation in my view. Though honestly I'd expect Adepticus Titanicus and Epic to return and be out for many years long before we'd see anything on the AoS front. Which honestly is probably a good thing if that were the case since AoS clearly needs a year or two more just to get its 35mm scale sorted out.

A simple showing off and inspirational thread where those with 5K or more points in a single army (formal army not grand alliance army) can show off those huge model counts! Gives you an excuse to get the whole army on the table/floor/shelving and show it off! Some people have some really huge armies, 10K, 20K or rarely even more in points; and I think those armies are worth showing off. To show the dedication and fun people have had collecting a single army to such a vast size! So come one come all and lets show off and chat about these huge armies!

I think we need piks of the current 1300!

It's things like that which make me wish Warmaster came back! Or at least the AoS version of that game!

Thing is DoK only got 3 new sculpts. Morathi and two duel kits. And GW has done triple kits in the past so its not beyond them to do a couple of new sculpts and kits to flesh out a faction. So they could be very readily brought up to standard with only a few minor additions to their current army. Heck look at Fyreslayers, they are not that big a faction in terms of model diversity.

Previous Count 0 Current Count -3 Completed two boxes of Doomfire Warlocks, 10 more models done! Though technically they are only part done as I want to paint some parts up before final assembly. But they are as close to done as they will be before paint is applied. I also completed a 1 model blister of an attack dog from Wild West Exodus, neat little dog and well cast. I've also been chipping away at some metal chaos dogs and khorn hounds in metal. Be nice to get one or two boxes of those done and another 5 Doomfires before Christmas. That would leave me just Melusai and cauldrons on the Daughters of Khaine front and have done the brunt of chaos metal that I've got in stock.

Hehe tis a neat idea! Though I'd rather be able to turn lost boxes into new boxies for current projects! I need more daughters!!

I've not been seriously looking, but I've also been thinking on adding pillars to mine. Though mine are already built so I'd be ideally looking for something that fits into the base between model and base easily. I do agree its a shame GW didn't have them leaping off pillars or around them so that there was a thicker connection point to make them a bit more stable.

Sisters and Witches are very close, but don't overlook the extra attack native to witch aelves when they are close to a leader (and in DoK leaders are close to the troops most of the time). Witches are also a little cheaper in points than Sisters. Both are viable choices though and you honestly can't go wrong with either, their use on the battlefield varies in a more subtle way. That said a unit of 30 each would not be a bad choice and many people use Sisters of Slaughter. As they both come from the very same kit its more a matter of building choice than lack of funds. So by all means go for it - sometimes in this hobby its good to build models you really like, not just build based on theory and lists.

Morathi's ruling is a bit odd because they are applying one logic to damage but not to restoring health, it does sound like a bit of a cop-out to make her weaker without saying so. The first point has been in the DoK Errata for a while, it just referenced the core rule errata which didn't have that statement in it (so it applied to Daughters but no one else - until now!) Great to see GW finally added it, though surprised they waited till a full update to do so. Of course in the original errata for DoK it only mentioned, by name, the rending attack from Blood Sisters. @Kimbo This thread might interest you as it compares the Witches to the Sisters of Slaughter: https://www.tga.community/forums/topic/18324-daughters-of-khaine-witches-and-sisters/ In very simple terms the Witch Aelves can put out a greater total number of attacks, esp if they are within range of a leader. However in practical terms the 2 inch range on the Sisters of Slaughter whip means that they can most often be more reliable in getting more bodies into close combat; furthermore they have a 6 inch pile in range and move. So whilst Witch Aelves per unit can put out more attacks (on average and within range of a leader); the Sisters of Slaughter have two means to more reliably get more of their bodies into close combat range during combat. Thus giving them the edge in delivering actual hits and wounds, esp on any table with decent amounts of terrain. One thing you might casually see is many Sisters being equipped with the buckler and many Witches with duel blades. Originally those were the builds for both models and itsa design many follow through on. Tactically its a trade off for both; the buckler increases survivability for both and is great if they receive a charge and get attacked first as the bucklers will deal mortal wounds on each attack of 6 on the dice. That said the duel blades let you dish out more volume of attacks, so in larger units and when you make the charge and get the first round of attacks they come to the for as superior.

At this rate we're going to have one mega brawl between grots and skaven come newyears day!

I could see them very much sharing the characters between the two! In fact it would be a perfect setting for skirmish and doubles the value of those models to both games AND GW! Those who don't like or don't want to try Shadspire might well use them for Skirmish and vis-versa. Plus any who do get tempted over to the other game will likely buy some rules and materials to play with - so its win win for gamers and win win for GW too!

So Forgeworld hinted a while back that they've got a new AoS division beavering away on new models for AoS! So lets show them how much we love the guys and gals of FW and show off our mighty beasts and warriors from their resin vaults! Classic and current models. One, two, three or a whole army! Whatever you've got show it off and chat about it! LEts show that we love what they produce and want more excuses to buy more of it! Note please leave complaints about prices and pricing policies out of this thread - yes its an issue, esp for many overseas; but this isn't the thread for it. Also leave out recastings too! Again this just isn't the place for such chatter - feel free to start your own threads on those topics : )

@Aegisgrimm don't rush too fast - the last WD issue hinted that there were updates to skirmish coming or at least an article about it. Might be there's a new book just around the corner in the new year!

So I figured I'd give this site blog thing a try for something mostly to keep track of myself as I work through the year and for when I don't want to post this kind of thing to my regular blog, which I at least try to keep a little more meaningful. So as of this, the first day I'm undertaking this quest to reduce the number of boxes I own, I'm starting the count at 0. That doesn't mean I don't own any boxes of unbuilt stuff, but that I'd rather not spend a few hours finding and counting them. And since my objective is to reduce the total rather than reach a specific number, the more I keep that value in the negative (less than 0) then I'm winning. As soon as it swings to positive I'm losing (as then I own more boxes than I do right at this very moment. So Day 1 Count 0!

You mean the White Squat right?!

I started last year with a big desire to build a Necron force - Daughters of Khaine shot that plan to bits. That said the centipedes look great and I do really want some- then again alllll those legs scares me with the amount of mould line cleaning that would come!

Did you get the titan - did you did you did you did you?!??!

So you're going to start a resin-crack addition then?

@Kimbo 1) DoK are currently ranking quite high in the competitive scene. There's even some variety of builds that work; from taking an army that's mostly all snake with spears to taking 90 or so witch aelves with support. So they are on the stronger end of the curve, then again most faction are doing decently well with a new battletome. Older battletomes are suffering a bit and no battletome are heavily under represented. 2) DoK are a heavy close combat focused army. The few ranged units that we do have are also jointly good in close combat and are closer to skirmishers rather than a dedicated ranged unit. There's also a fair bit of unit synergy going on in terms of support from the leaders such as hag queens and the mighty Blood Cauldrons. That said whilst there are some auras and abilities that can boost defensive prowess, DoK are mostly a Glass Cannon type army. Hits hard and fast ,but can be fragile - esp if your opponent learns to snipe and take out the leaders to cut down on the support. For this reason speed is important as is positioning so that you get the charge and the most first attacks . 3) Honestly there aren't really any bad choices in the range of models and the "poor" choices we do have are still decent and often only one half of a duel kit. Right now I'd say the Christmas Battleforce is the best starting point. You get a nice discount and a slot block of units: The Cauldron is a must have kit as it gives you all the leaders for the army (barring Morathi). Both on the cauldron and on bases these leaders are great support. You also get an avatar which is a powerful, if fickle and careful to use unit to use on its own or on the cauldron. Magnets are your friend with this kit (magnetize the avatar even if you won't use it on its own as it makes the cauldron a lot smaller and easier to pack) Witch Aelves are the battleline for the standard army and a mainstay troop choice (the other being Blood Sisters (spear armed snakes), but that only happens if you take a Bloodwrack Medusa as your general). The other option from the witches kit, sisters of slaughter, are a solid elite choice - very similar to Witch Aelves, but with a whip that gives them extra reach in combat. Khinari are great in either form, though the ranged (spear) version is often teh better for hit and retreat tactics as it hasn't got to risk getting into close combat. Whilst they are fragile they can strike from anywhere on the table. An ideal force to take either to bolster and attack flanks/rears of engaged enemies to aid your other warriors; to take or contest objectives; to attack archers, siege engines or loan mages/heroes. Basically they are very fragile, but hit hard and have some neat tricks to escaping fights so they are very good shock troop Melusai are tough in their spear holding form, a nasty fast close combat unit. Their ranged option isn't "as" good, but they are still decent fighters and no slouches. And that's the entire range save for the Doomfire Warlocks. In fact its such a good deal for the army as a whole I'd say two or even three of the Battleforces would be a solid foundation. You get some significant savings over buying things on their own and you get a solid core of units, the only thing it would really lack is that you'd end up without as many witch aelves as is ideal for a general army. However with the savings you make you can easily then put that money into witch aelves.

Own less boxes of unbuilt stuff by this time next year. That's about the only one I'm aiming for that I hope and expect to keep! Granted I could make some great headway if I just managed to sell some stuff off and pause on buying for a while!

Very bloody! Did you try getting some of the blood to streak up the snake body to blend base and model together a little? I also like the little bright scales on the back of the snake, and a very clean and good underbelly - out of interest what did you use for the snake belly?

It's a hold-over from the Kirby days, but I think it also works for GW otherwise they wouldn't do them. I think for them its more about showing a "full army" as a single purchase for those people who do jump on a new army in a big way and are looking for a one-click no-thinking purchase. It's away to make an impressive army display. Granted there's no additional discount, but in the Demon set you've got the getting started and W&R so all 3 components already come with built in discount. You're just not getting any extra. It's just harmless product display and lets not forget GW have been doing some army deals as of late and we've also got the Christmas Deals out too.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/12/14/a-big-thank-you-to-our-250000-warhammer-tv-fans/ I thought that the amazed people were like the sprue photo - hearkening back to previous releases such as Chapter Approved and the Fiend sprue. Around 40 or so seconds in there's a table loaded with (mostly ) chaos titanic units and I don't think I can spot any Slaanesh or anything new on the table, but its a clear bit tease! Also https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/12/14/14th-dec-grim-dark-corners-to-bind-a-daemongw-homepage-post-4/ There's artwork at the early part which has quite a new take on Deamonettes. Whilst its mostly just art, unless they are giving us anew kind of them, because they look VERY "pinhead" inspired. Could be human woreshippers or another new unit considering that the other 3 gods got at least one new humanoid style unit.