Malfallax Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 10 hours ago, Malakithe said: My version has Galrauch instead of Kairos I tried a Galrauch proxy but his 10 wounds left me very sad when he got sniped and easily killed. He is a glass cannon but one that you cannot hide in anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete_P Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Yes, Skyfires do have the Daemon keyword so they slot right into the Host Duplicitous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrMarmalade Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Also, Kairos has the keyword "lord of change". Does this mean he can be used in any of the formations as the required "loc"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 2 hours ago, Malfallax said: I tried a Galrauch proxy but his 10 wounds left me very sad when he got sniped and easily killed. He is a glass cannon but one that you cannot hide in anyway. How did he get sniped? That's quite the sniping considering what he is 30 minutes ago, Pete_P said: Yes, Skyfires do have the Daemon keyword so they slot right into the Host Duplicitous Ahh true...never considered that an option. Other then being included in a one drop battalion there isn't much other benefit...other then being Skyfires of course. Guess that means Shaman can too. 7 minutes ago, DrMarmalade said: Also, Kairos has the keyword "lord of change". Does this mean he can be used in any of the formations as the required "loc"? I think there was a FAQ saying no to that. But that includes every army/faction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete_P Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Malakithe said: true...never considered that an option. Other then being included in a one drop battalion there isn't much other benefit...other then being Skyfires of course. Guess that means Shaman can too. Yeah, the one drop is great. And also with them being daemons you get to use fold reality on them. But so far if I'm running the Host I've stayed pure daemons and saved a big reserve of points for Horror splits and summoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirage8112 Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 6 hours ago, Malakithe said: 6 hours ago, DrMarmalade said: Also, Kairos has the keyword "lord of change". Does this mean he can be used in any of the formations as the required "loc"? I think there was a FAQ saying no to that. But that includes every army/faction Actually It was the opposite. If the unit has the keyword, then it counts even if it's a named character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 So the app update is saying we can't use Fatesworn or Daemon Cohort of Tzeentch with Tzeentch allegiance... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete_P Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 The battalions don't have the Tzeentch keyword so you'd lose it it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldercaveman Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 So there is no where that says we can't make every model in a unit of horrors a horn blower and an icon bearer? Also no where says how many models can be the leader of the unit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daedalus81 Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 54 minutes ago, Malakithe said: So the app update is saying we can't use Fatesworn or Daemon Cohort of Tzeentch with Tzeentch allegiance... 51 minutes ago, Pete_P said: The battalions don't have the Tzeentch keyword so you'd lose it it seems. Oh ******. Makes sense though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 I swear we talked about this somewhere...in on each of the earlier pages perhaps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkiham Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 did they did a stealth FAQ update? some things have changed and been removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denneysman Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 8 hours ago, Mirage8112 said: Actually It was the opposite. If the unit has the keyword, then it counts even if it's a named character. New FAQ change that. Q: How do you determine what models and units make up a warscroll battalion? When is it based on a keyword and when is it a unit name? A: When a warscroll battalion is referring to a keyword,it appears in Keyword Bold. Otherwise, it is referring to the name of a unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfallax Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 18 hours ago, Malakithe said: How did he get sniped? That's quite the sniping considering what he is What do you mean? In the end he is a 10 wounds (only) behemoth he is losing strength fast unless I missed something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkBlack Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 11 hours ago, Eldercaveman said: So there is no where that says we can't make every model in a unit of horrors a horn blower and an icon bearer? Also no where says how many models can be the leader of the unit? It will be in the unit's description. Usually; it just says that any models can have instruments and "a model" (singular) can be a champion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 So what's the word? Are we not able to use the Fatesworn or Cohort? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete_P Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Not if you want to use Tzeentch Allegiance abilities and spells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 That doesn't make any sense. You have to fill those battalions specificallywith Tzeentch units. The book says if all units are Tzeentch no matter what form they have allegiance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete_P Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 The battalion must also have the Tzeentch keyword though. All your warscrolls need to be Tzeentch, not just the units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfallax Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 On 06/03/2017 at 0:40 PM, Malakithe said: 6 minutes ago, Pete_P said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfallax Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 WtF sorry for the above post something bugged But the battalions do not have to be the same keyword... They confer their keyword to the units in it. Otherwise the Everchosen cannot have the Everchosen allegiance since they must field the warbands with slaves to darkness of their god and then give them the Everchosen via the battalion... That's the only way to play let's say Fatesworn + Varanguard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete_P Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Battalions do not confer the actual keyword to the units in it. For example Stormcast models in the mixed Sylvaneth battalion do not get the Sylvaneth keyword just the allegiance And the image I posted above specifically says that battalion warscrolls themselves have an allegiance and for your army to qualify for Tzeentch allegiance all starting warscrolls must have the Tzeentch allegiance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Malfallax Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 On the same topic... Can I have the Tzeench allegiance and choose a Chaos artifact for 1 hero and a Tzeench artifact for another? Many posts I ve seen do that as well as 2 Battle reports I watched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete_P Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Definitely not, it's specifically stated somewhere, I'll try and find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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