Ollie Grimwood Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 I think we need to consider the source of this before we proceed further. The originator of the Balewind crisis, a man by his own (unrepentant) admission who is too gamey for the Facehammer GT, in fact a man recently labelled by the Facehammer podcast as the current number one hobby villain. A man who has gone on record to inform us of his vendetta against the Death Grand Alliance. None other than the Dark Master of these very forums @Ben himself. I urge caution Brothers and sisters you delve into matters of such gaminess that they exist beyond the ken of common hobbyists. Turn back and embrace the narrative before it's too late ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerrorPenguin Posted November 14, 2016 Author Share Posted November 14, 2016 1 hour ago, Ollie Grimwood said: I think we need to consider the source of this before we proceed further. The originator of the Balewind crisis, a man by his own (unrepentant) admission who is too gamey for the Facehammer GT, in fact a man recently labelled by the Facehammer podcast as the current number one hobby villain. A man who has gone on record to inform us of his vendetta against the Death Grand Alliance. None other than the Dark Master of these very forums @Ben himself. I urge caution Brothers and sisters you delve into matters of such gaminess that they exist beyond the ken of common hobbyists. Turn back and embrace the narrative before it's too late ??? Apparently I have given out all my likes for today, but *like*. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razorfate Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 I really do not understand why this debate even started. It is clear in the wording that the model does not die and is in no way summoned again to the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Reid Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 I can see why this topic is so heavily debated and agree with many of the arguments on both sides. However, I disagree that it is crystal clear. IMO the best definition given for restored was the example of the antique table. The model is restored to limited health just like the old antique table being restored to its previous glory. The artifact is called the Ring of Immortality after all. It's not the ring of summoning and therefore should not cost points. None of the other artifacts cost points. Again, the model is restored (returned to health) with d3 wounds, which is hardly over powered. Just my two cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deynon Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 I'd be curious to know how the ones that want the ring to pay the model whould do with Vlad VOn Carstein.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nico Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Both Vlad and the Phoenix come back for free and Tyrion and Skaar Bloodwrath for that matter. Vlad is a bit cheap on that basis, but his spell is utter garbage and he's a poor general choice since you lose the 5+ ward save. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deynon Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 2 hours ago, Nico said: Both Vlad and the Phoenix come back for free and Tyrion and Skaar Bloodwrath for that matter. Vlad is a bit cheap on that basis, but his spell is utter garbage and he's a poor general choice since you lose the 5+ ward save. you din't need to have him as general usong him. I meant that he is a Named Character, so if it comes back it can't be summoned again cause only one is allowed in the army. So coming ack with a models doesn't mean o pay again and it's the same for thering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 It's funny that so many of you are sure that the model does not die. If it's not slain then the ring does not activate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJ26 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Wow, this is trolling at the highest level and all of death has fed into it. If I run into someone who wants me to pay double for a character bc of the ring I simply won't play with them. They're being a di*k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 TL:DR sword cost point, ring doesn't. It isn't an reinforment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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