Tasman Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Where do I find this battalion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowPlay85 Posted October 19, 2016 Author Share Posted October 19, 2016 So with plague touched warband models cause mortal wound on a 6, if a model already does tht would that mean its two mortal wounds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkiham Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 No, your opponent rolls to hit, -1 to hit, then they roll to wound, if they roll a 6, they suffer a mortal wound. You roll save and then any other save, so with my list with the unit of 27 chaos warriors, going sword and board, as it's a unit of 27 the warriors get to reroll saves of 1, if i mystic shield them, theyll have a 3+. So there's good chance people will end up hurting themselves more than me, and on a 54 wound unit that's a lot of potential damage, Same goes for the blightkings, 14 models, 43 wounds, I plan on putting my general near them for the +1 to hit and for the 5+ ward. That's two large units who aren't going to die fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowPlay85 Posted October 19, 2016 Author Share Posted October 19, 2016 LeadersHarbinger of Decay (140)- General- Artefact: Crown of ConquestChaos Sorcerer Lord (140)- NormalUnitsChaos Warshrine x 1 (200)Putrid Blightkings x 10 (360)Chaos Knights x 5 (200)- Ensorcelled WeaponsChaos Knights x 5 (200)- Ensorcelled WeaponsChaos Chosen x 10 (320)Forsaken x 10 (200)Chaos Gorebeast Chariots x 1 (100)BehemothsWar MachinesBatallionsPlaguetouched Warband (140)Total: 2000/2000 So maybe sonething like this seems strong on paper with huge damaging potential. Any thoughts suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkiham Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 You need 1 more battleline unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowPlay85 Posted October 19, 2016 Author Share Posted October 19, 2016 I have 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowPlay85 Posted October 19, 2016 Author Share Posted October 19, 2016 Unless ur saying blightkings and chaos knights dont count then i would have 0 battleline and these rules are getting pretty silly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkiham Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 It's because you don't have slaves to darkness as entire list, the blightkings are ok as you're mortal nurgle, but the knights don't count as you're mortal nurgle allegiance. I'm fairly confident in saying that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowPlay85 Posted October 19, 2016 Author Share Posted October 19, 2016 So than i only have 1 battleline atm wtf is the point of these battlalion if they are still messed up by these rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkiham Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 On 19/10/2016 at 9:51 PM, SlowPlay85 said: So than i only have 1 battleline atm wtf is the point of these battlalion if they are still messed up by these rules the rules are pretty simple mate. the everchosen ones are some of the easiest to follow. On 19/10/2016 at 9:00 PM, SlowPlay85 said: LeadersHarbinger of Decay (140)- General- Artefact: Crown of ConquestChaos Sorcerer Lord (140)- NormalUnitsChaos Warshrine x 1 (200)Putrid Blightkings x 10 (360)Chaos Knights x 5 (200)- Ensorcelled WeaponsChaos Knights x 5 (200)- Ensorcelled WeaponsChaos Chosen x 10 (320)Forsaken x 10 (200)Chaos Gorebeast Chariots x 1 (100)BehemothsWar MachinesBatallionsPlaguetouched Warband (140)Total: 2000/2000 So maybe sonething like this seems strong on paper with huge damaging potential. Any thoughts suggestions? Drop a unit of knights and drop the forsaken for 2 units of chaos warriors with great weapons or something. you're trying to build an ultra elite list, and these rules are in place so prevent such things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayniac Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Don't get frustrated, yes the Battleline rules suck and ****** people over IMHO. Just have to look at how it works and plan accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowPlay85 Posted October 20, 2016 Author Share Posted October 20, 2016 LeadersHarbinger of Decay (140)- General- Artefact: Crown of ConquestFestus The Leechlord (120) Use balewind with himUnitsPutrid Blightkings x 10 (360)Putrid Blightkings x 10 (360)Chaos Warshrine x 1 (200)Chaos Warshrine x 1 (200)Chaos Warriors x 10 (180)- Hand Weapon & ShieldChaos Gorebeast Chariots x 1 (100)Chaos Knights x 5 (200)- Ensorcelled WeaponsBehemothsWar MachinesBatallionsPlaguetouched Warband (140)Total: 2000/2000 Best possible list I could come up with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowPlay85 Posted October 20, 2016 Author Share Posted October 20, 2016 thinking maybe glaives on knights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkiham Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 The warshrines count as behemoth but yeah looks good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowPlay85 Posted October 20, 2016 Author Share Posted October 20, 2016 still in unit choices but still behemoth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowPlay85 Posted October 20, 2016 Author Share Posted October 20, 2016 doesnt it need the keyword behemoth for it to count as one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowPlay85 Posted October 20, 2016 Author Share Posted October 20, 2016 nvm so they changed it in generals handbook there is just no way to make this battallion any good with the units i want to use so done with chaos just gonna stick to order simple and easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkiham Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 no it works fine, they just count as behemoth. so when you write a list they come under behemoth. every model is a unit. a single guy, a group of guys a monster whatever. its all referred to as units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowPlay85 Posted October 20, 2016 Author Share Posted October 20, 2016 oh okay well I rather like this list think it could be competitive? Also ty for all ur help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johann Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 My advice: If you are not a hardcore tournament player and neither are your opponents, play what you like. If everybody would play just lists built on maximum power with minimum points, there is little variety and less fun. There is nothing left from the idea/spirit of your first list in your last list, that i can understand your displeasure. If you just focus on winning, listen to the comments above! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkiham Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 My lists are far from hard-core tournament. Harbored tournament is min maxing. What I do is build fun lists who don't get steamrolled, note also, they asked for competitive rotbringers not a list to play against a child Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 I don't know anything about the plaguetouched warband but building around either a Blightguard or tallyband could work too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayniac Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 More than that, this highlights what I was afraid of with Matched Play. If people aren't tournament-focused WAAC types and would actually talk, AOS could have worked fine as it was before, but no can't talk to people we need points to tell us how good/bad something is, and this is the result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Well that's the reality of a game. It's a game with a winner and loser. Tournaments are the extreme end of that. 40k is waaaaay worse when it comes to WAAC lists thou. Until every alliance and subfaction gets their own allegiance abilities chaos as a whole kinda sucks. But so does Death....and most of Order. Destruction is fine thou lol Chaos and Death are in the same boat where you pretty much need to mix up units to be effective. So rotbringers alone won't be too good but when combined with the full Nurgle, daemons, Catapults, StD...then you can probably make something you like. I made a quick list with Blightguard supported with Plaguebearers as battleline, a SorcLord, Drones...looked good on paper anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Meads Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 I've used the light guard a lot and find it really solid. Use it alongside bloab, morbidex, 5 knights, 10 chaos warriors, and a spawn. the only thing I'm keen on in the extra is knights and will replace the warriors with 5 more once I can face those Mould lines again. Not to fussed on the Maggoth lords and glottkin would replace them if I could carry the massive model! You really need a +1 to hit from the trait, though, it's really important. It does lack a little punch but makes up for that on pure staying power. I also don't find it as slow as seems on paper- but am tempted to get 2*5 marauder horseman for making objective grabbing slightly easier. I've used the harbinger, but it's not a particularly friendly combo so don't use it as a rule.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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