Tizianolol Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Guys with " ride the wind aetheric" ability, can I retreat ( with that ability) and still shoot/charge? Thx a lot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Marcvs Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 4 hours ago, Tizianolol said: Guys with " ride the wind aetheric" ability, can I retreat ( with that ability) and still shoot/charge? Thx a lot! yes, because using "ride the wind aetheric" is instead of a retreat move so it is not itself a retreat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Beliman Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 3 hours ago, Marcvs said: yes, because using "ride the wind aetheric" is instead of a retreat move so it is not itself a retreat. Is that right? Kharadron Ships can only shoot after using Fly High (an ability with the same "instead of a retreat move..." as Ride The Winds) because we have an ability (Disengage) that allows us to shoot (but not charge). There is a FAQ about that: Quote Q: If I use the Fly High ability to disengage with a unit, can that unit still shoot or charge later in the same turn? A: It can still shoot as per the Disengage ability but it cannot charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Tizianolol Posted October 31, 2022 Author Share Posted October 31, 2022 Riders of the ruin ability ( blood knights) says only " after a normal move" they can retreat and charge. This mean something?:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Marcvs Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 3 hours ago, Beliman said: Is that right? Kharadron Ships can only shoot after using Fly High (an ability with the same "instead of a retreat move..." as Ride The Winds) because we have an ability (Disengage) that allows us to shoot (but not charge). There is a FAQ about that: I am not an authority and I don't know enough of the KO discussions so, honestly, I am not sure. Fly High is formulated similarly, but it also specifically mentions "(it can disengage)" referring to that rule. This is not the case for the Palladors, and the move is still not a retreat, that's why I would say they can shoot and charge afterwards. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Lord Krungharr Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 That makes them a little more appealing for my Stormcast zoo project. They don't hit too hard but are good for targeting weaker backfield units that think they can slack off just holding objectives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Beliman Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) 18 hours ago, Marcvs said: Fly High is formulated similarly, but it also specifically mentions "(it can disengage)" referring to that rule. This is not the case for the Palladors, and the move is still not a retreat, that's why I would say they can shoot and charge afterwards. Completely agree and that's why I'm not sure how abilities with set-ups that replace movement works in 3.0 (btw, I've send exactly the same question to GW after KOs FAQs): KOs can Disengage using Fly High, that's why KO can shoot (but can't charge). What happens when you use a High Fly-like ability without a disengage-like ability? Can you sill charge or shoot? Edited November 1, 2022 by Beliman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guys with " ride the wind aetheric" ability, can I retreat ( with that ability) and still shoot/charge? Thx a lot!
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