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Hey All, 

 

Probably a question that has been asked a hundred times before. But I am getting overloaded with information online. 

I am thinking about taking the plunge and starting my AOS journey with the SCE. Don't have any friends who play tabletop, but I really like the idea of the hobby and the models, so I will just be slowly collecting and painting. I was wondering what unit I should start with? 

I would prefer to just buy a single 30 quid box to start with until I find some people to play with and have a need to field a full army (and avoid a massive upfront cost to get started). What unit would you recommend to start with (both for use in game and fun to paint).

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If you're planning to eventually play some games I suggest starting with a box of Liberators, Vindictors, or Sequitors. These are your basic infantry, and a single box will give you two units of 5, which is a good start, as you're always going to need basic troops.

All three units do pretty much the same thing; they're a defensive foot troop.

Liberators cost the fewest points in game.

Vindictors have better armor and more reliable attacks, but they cost more points in game. 

Sequiturs cost the most points, but they also offer the most flexibility in a fight, as they can focus on being more offensive or defensive eachbturn.

Take a look at them and pick the one that looks the coolest to you.

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For your price range, I would recommend getting the "Warrior starter set".  You get 5 vindictors and a knight-arcanum, as well as 12 orks to fight against.  But more importantly, it also gets you some other starter stuff, like the core rules, some dice to use, some measuring sticks to use, and a little game mat to play on, as well as reference sheets for all those models.  Basically, it gives you everything that you would need to pick up and play a (very) small game.

From there, you can expand however you want.  But even if you decide you don't like stormcast or orks (or you do... just not the ones that came with this box), you will still find the core rules, dice, and measuring sticks useful to keep around, and the simplified learning environment to learn the game can still be useful too.

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25 minutes ago, papary said:

Honestly, Whatever you think looks coolest

This. If you're just picking one unit to get going with hobbying, get what gives you an itch to complete it. For me personally, building and painting units to complete lists or to get what's meta quickly kills my motivation, while painting something fun and cool (even if it has bad rules) flows by itself.

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Is this your very first time ever painting & collecting models?
If so, I would start with a basic infantry box, as OkayestDM said: Liberators, Vindictors, or Sequitors. For newer painters I would personally suggest the older models (Liberators or Sequitors) over the newer ones, as the newer ones have quite a bit more fiddly detail.

After a basic infantry box, I'd pick whichever foot hero takes your fancy. Whichever looks coolest to you. These tend to be a bit more complicated than basic infantry, and you only have one so you can put a lot more time and effort into painting them and making them look great. Plus you will have the practice from painting 10 other models.

Once you're more confident with painting, I'd try something mounted or with an animal companion for some variety: Vanguard-Raptors have Aetherwing bird companions, or you could pick Dracothian Guard (Concussors/Fulminators/Tempestors/Desolators), or Evocators on Dracolines. The animals will help give you a bit of variety from the metallic armour that you might be a bit sick of by now! The other thing that I've found is that Stormcast mounts are generally quite forgiving to novice painters, and it's quite tricky to accidentally make them look bad.

 

By this point you'll have a small mix of stuff that you can generally fit into an army, and a decent idea of the sort of models you like the aesthetics of. I say just keep going down that route and get more of what you find aesthetically pleasing.

 

Army composition in AoS is fairly straightforward, you just need a general (any hero), and three or more battleline units for a 2000 point game. If you get any hero and a basic infantry box, you only need one more battleline unit to have a legal army, and can fill the rest of the points with whatever you please. As you play you'll discover what you like to actually use on the table, and when you read the unit stats, you can find new things you want to add based on rules or aesthetics.

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13 minutes ago, Dogmantra said:

Is this your very first time ever painting & collecting models?
If so, I would start with a basic infantry box, as OkayestDM said: Liberators, Vindictors, or Sequitors. For newer painters I would personally suggest the older models (Liberators or Sequitors) over the newer ones, as the newer ones have quite a bit more fiddly detail.

After a basic infantry box, I'd pick whichever foot hero takes your fancy. Whichever looks coolest to you. These tend to be a bit more complicated than basic infantry, and you only have one so you can put a lot more time and effort into painting them and making them look great. Plus you will have the practice from painting 10 other models.

Once you're more confident with painting, I'd try something mounted or with an animal companion for some variety: Vanguard-Raptors have Aetherwing bird companions, or you could pick Dracothian Guard (Concussors/Fulminators/Tempestors/Desolators), or Evocators on Dracolines. The animals will help give you a bit of variety from the metallic armour that you might be a bit sick of by now! The other thing that I've found is that Stormcast mounts are generally quite forgiving to novice painters, and it's quite tricky to accidentally make them look bad.

 

By this point you'll have a small mix of stuff that you can generally fit into an army, and a decent idea of the sort of models you like the aesthetics of. I say just keep going down that route and get more of what you find aesthetically pleasing.

 

Army composition in AoS is fairly straightforward, you just need a general (any hero), and three or more battleline units for a 2000 point game. If you get any hero and a basic infantry box, you only need one more battleline unit to have a legal army, and can fill the rest of the points with whatever you please. As you play you'll discover what you like to actually use on the table, and when you read the unit stats, you can find new things you want to add based on rules or aesthetics.

Thanks for the info that was actually really helpful.

 

I have painted minis before, played 40k years ago, so I have a little experience. Wasn't a very good painter  then mostly because I was rushing so I could play with friends. Going to take my time with SCE though.

 

I think I will start with a box of Sequitors as I really like the look of them. From there I am not sure where I will go as I really am spoiled for choice. There are so many great looking models. I am not to fussed about "competitive lists" as long as what I collect can get some value on the board for some beer and pretzel games I am happy.

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35 minutes ago, Lucur said:

This. If you're just picking one unit to get going with hobbying, get what gives you an itch to complete it. For me personally, building and painting units to complete lists or to get what's meta quickly kills my motivation, while painting something fun and cool (even if it has bad rules) flows by itself.

This is how I will be approaching the hobby. Years ago when I played with my friends back home I always felt rushed and pressured to speed through painting my 40k army which took away from what is probably the best part of the hobby.

 

If there are any unusable units I would try to avoid them unless you tell me the guys mounted on dragons with crossbows are bad. Because they look to cool not to paint.

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38 minutes ago, RookieHammer said:

I think I will start with a box of Sequitors as I really like the look of them. From there I am not sure where I will go as I really am spoiled for choice.

If you like the look of Sequitors, you might consider other Sacrosanct units once you start expanding. Evocators are a nice offensive unit (either on foot or on celestial dracolines.) Castigators or the Celestar Ballista will give you some shooting options.

For heroes you'd have the Lord-Arcanum (on gryph charger, on celestial dracoline, or on Tauralon), the Lord Ordinator, and the Lord Exorcist. If you peruse ebay you can probably also find a Knight Incantor or the new Knight Arcanum. That's technically a lot of hero options, but if you just pick one or two you'll be fine.

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There are still copies of the 2e Getting Started with Age of Sigmar magazine. I highly recommend picking one up if you can. It includes a knight-incantor mini, which will give you one of our most important Leaders for far less than most other heroes cost.

 

(The new magazine has 1 vindictor and 1 gutrippa, which is a lot less useful.)

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4 hours ago, Evantas said:

I know you said a 30 quid box, but that is extremely inefficient. I am an advocate of getting the Thunderstrike Brotherhood box. 

It gets you a bunch and variety of minis at a really low cost overall.

I'm iffy about the Thunderstrike Brotherhood box. All of the units in it are missing things- The Prosecutors and Liberators don't have a grandweapon, and the retribuitors are too small to be fielded legally.

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On 1/13/2022 at 10:32 AM, Evantas said:

I know you said a 30 quid box, but that is extremely inefficient. I am an advocate of getting the Thunderstrike Brotherhood box. 

It gets you a bunch and variety of minis at a really low cost overall.

Thanks for the suggestion - but I am not the biggest fan of the units in the box - or rather they are not on my priority list for what I want to paint and build.

I am currently thinking of paint schemes, but am curious if there is any chamber that deals alot with either Slaanesh or Sylvaneth? I ask as my brother in law has started collecting sylvaneth and my wife has decided to join the hobby as well and she is playing Slaanesh. If I like a paintscheme associated with either army it would be cool to paint up.

 

 

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