ShockTaco Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Hello, Can you critique this list 340 -Mannfred Mortarch of the night 130-Necromancer 120-Wight king with baleful blade 280-Skeletons with spears x 40 140-Direwolves x 10 240-Chain rasp horde x 30 240- Black Knights x 10 300- Grimghast Reapers x 30 50- Extra command point 2000/2000 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honk Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 12 hours ago, ShockTaco said: Can you critique this list Well, if you really want: it is bland, Uninspired and the other lists are cuter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honk Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 Legion of the Night are not really competitive and the bait rule only applies to Deathrattle units. mannfred is too expensive and frail for heavy melee the wightkings CA only counts for deathrattleunits, too i personally hate nighthaunt units, because they are better in the legions than in their „home“ faction and that triggers me a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honk Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 I would switch out the wightking for a vampire lord, extea caster and his ca buffs any Death unit, either throw out some doggies (never) or some chainrasps (sure, gladly). then go for it. Mannis CA is great on 3+\3+ so the reapers are set vampire flying or horsie runs around with the black knights and doggos, while the necro holds the centre, preferably within terrain 😅👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShockTaco Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 7 hours ago, Honk said: Well, if you really want: it is bland, Uninspired and the other lists are cuter. Lol, Thanks for your insight about my list. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skreech Verminking Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 Qoute:”Can you critique my proposed list?” sure mate, let’s see here, Not playing the Skavenitde allegiance, missing Any rats as Battlelines and no Rats in the command slots either. at least the horde requirement for a skaventide army are there. I’d give You B- for trying😉. jokes aside, it looks great. You’ll certainly have a lot of fun with it. It might not be the most competitive, but I’m anyways more fond of using the rule of cool, anyways. If you like it, then play it 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honk Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 4 hours ago, Skreech Verminking said: If you like it, then play it 😁 QfT!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutek Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 On 7/27/2020 at 6:56 PM, ShockTaco said: Hello, Can you critique this list 340 -Mannfred Mortarch of the night 130-Necromancer 120-Wight king with baleful blade 280-Skeletons with spears x 40 140-Direwolves x 10 240-Chain rasp horde x 30 240- Black Knights x 10 300- Grimghast Reapers x 30 50- Extra command point 2000/2000 30 Grimghast cost 420 points however even with that your list is only 1960 so you could afford to upgrade the Chainrasps to 40. Nighthaunt units have poor synergy with Mannfred though as they don't make much use of his command ability. Get some grave guard instead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honk Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 On 7/29/2020 at 9:21 PM, Sutek said: they don't make much use of his command ability. ?!? Why not ?!? his CA states reroll 1s hit/wound for DEATH units within range... legion of night would kinda be useless for bedsheets, but there is a 40 block of skellis in the List and outflanking reapers are kinda interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Antiguo Guardián Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 On 7/27/2020 at 7:56 PM, ShockTaco said: Hello, Can you critique this list 340 -Mannfred Mortarch of the night 130-Necromancer 120-Wight king with baleful blade 280-Skeletons with spears x 40 140-Direwolves x 10 240-Chain rasp horde x 30 240- Black Knights x 10 300- Grimghast Reapers x 30 50- Extra command point 2000/2000 Okey let´s see. 30 Reapers are 420. You´re paying 240pv for 30 Chainrasp: another 10 models are at 50%, so pay it, please. Dire wolves are better in units of 5: they´re screens and chaff, so you can save some points here. Black Knights... I hate them. I prefer some vampiric knights/blood K. Mannfred legion is not good with NH units: you can change them for more skellies. I hope it can be usefull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutek Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 On 8/8/2020 at 6:22 AM, Honk said: ?!? Why not ?!? his CA states reroll 1s hit/wound for DEATH units within range... legion of night would kinda be useless for bedsheets, but there is a 40 block of skellis in the List and outflanking reapers are kinda interesting You can use the CA on them but Reapers already can reroll hits if the enemy unit has 5 or more models and Chainrasps already reroll ones to wound on their warscroll. So they don't make as much use of the ability as other units. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honk Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Sutek said: So they don't make as much use of the ability as other units. Thanks for the info, cannot be bothered learning bedsheets 🤣 Legion of Night might not be the strongest option compared to the others, but still a Mannfred buffed centre can be valid. then you can have deepstriking bedsheets, as you said, they are very independent and reliable. Deepstriking 30 Reapers sounds tasty. The black knights and the wightking are kinda old school bad, I hate to say... knight of shrouds or something, unrendable save is just too good, perhaps a vamp lord 'cause magic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sutek Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 The only problem you might have with deepstriking reapers is that they have to come on 6" from a table edge and 9" from enemy units. A clever opponent won't leave you space to bring on 30 models on 32mm bases. I won two games yesterday running Manfredd in Grand Host of Nagash. Seemed to work better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sception Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 With a nighthaunt leaning LoN list, I'd really like to trybto fit a banshee or two in there, as outflanking them into scream range is a nice trick. As otgers have said, vamp lord > wight king in this list, for more casting and for the CA that works with both skittles and bedsheets. Even without the bait bonus, nighthaunt stuff is still prob better than deathrattle, or at least as good, so I wouldn't feel bad about fielding sheets in LoN. I'm not a huge fan of black knights outside of deathmarch, though, so personally i'd drop them to make room for something else. Maxing out the rasp block certainly. Casting bonuses are important if you want to cast anything, so maybe a cart, maybe trade your artefact for the claw. If both, that's a respectable +3 to cast in the bubble, so maybe an offensive endless spell to go with? And always, *always* buy the extra CP in legions lists. Mannfred, like all the mortarchs, is better in Grand Host than his own legion due to the must be general requirement, but I get wanting to run him in his own legion for narrative purposes so that probably can't ve helped. Maybe something like: Allegiance: Legion of NightMortal Realm: ShyishMannfred Mortarch of Night (340)- General- Lore of the Dead: Fading Vigour Necromancer (130)- Artefact: Morbheg's Claw - Lore of the Deathmages: Overwhelming DreadVampire Lord (140)- Mount: Flying Horror- Lore of the Vampires: Amaranthine OrbTomb Banshee (80)40 x Skeleton Warriors (280)- Ancient Spears40 x Chainrasp Horde (280)5 x Dire Wolves (70)5 x Dire Wolves (70)30 x Grimghast Reapers (420)1 x Corpse Cart (80)Extra Command Point (50)Geminids of Uhl-Gysh (60)Total: 2000 / 2000Extra Command Points: 1Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 161 Manny takes the banshee and reapers outflanking, the vamp, necro, battleline hordes, and corpse cart claim the middle, dire wolves grab objectives, screen, or speed bump. Not the best list by any stretch, but should be at least reasonably playable, and has some nice variety & a few fun tricks. Just don't be too aggressive with manny, as he is your general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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