Chumphammer Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Ok, so taking a step back into AoS before handbook 3 in June Just wanted to use a lot of my old models for now (mainly old High Elves) till I see see if I want to commit to a new AoS army (Blades of Khorne is my interest atm) Atm I am looking at: Anointed on Frostheart Phoenix (General): 280 - Master of Defense - Glyphfeathers Anointed on Frostheart Phoenix: 280 Anointed on Frostheart Phoenix: 280 Loremaster: 140 Loremaster: 140 Battlemage: Amber: 120 10 Glade Guard: 120 10 Glade Guard: 120 10 Glade Guard: 120 30 Phoenix Guard: 360 Razordon: 40 2000pts 3 Frosthearts to shut down magic and be hitty. They are backed up by 2 loremasters (reroll to hit and wound is great) plus the extra chances to up their armour if I position them right Battlemage to buff the phoenix guard Glade guard is cause...well out battleline options are slim and I dont have any more PG. Plus, I used them before and 30 shouts at -3 rend one off is pretty useful if I need to do wounds to something (again, with Amber mage could help 1 unit) Razordon is...well..i had 40pts free and thought endless spells are good, I need my 3 mages to already cast the spells they have and I dont want to lose a turn casting it (unless I am missing something) Plus, it can run around and be annoying as it can get up close with the PG and 2d6 -1 (if 6 inches) can really help So, feel free to give opinions. Finally, do any of my other characters bar the general get an item choice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingwalnut Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Because you can't cast the same spell twice in a turn, having 2 Loremasters may be a bit redundant. Of course, the spell is powerful, so having a backup isn't bad. An Archmage on Horse has a neat spell that can buff multiple units and they can keep up with the Pheonixes. If you keep the extra Lore master, than an endless spell can put him to good use. You can do Quicksilver Swords and Shackles for variety, or Aethervoid Pendulum for power. But a Razordon can be fine, too. Overall, seems solid. Frosthearts are still very powerful, as are Phoenix Guard. You got the staying power, so if you play the objectives right you should be a strong list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiagoma Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 I had mixed results with PG in groups of 30. I think i would rather split into 20 and 10. the smaller unit can stay on an objective or something like that. Agree about the loremaster. You can replace one for an archmage or a spellweaver to ressurect the glade guard + an endless spell, since she is pretty cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chumphammer Posted May 27, 2019 Author Share Posted May 27, 2019 (edited) Cheers for the feedback Totally missed the 1 spell type max. Good to know. I might change to the AM, as yeah the bubble might be effective and gives me another 40pts to play with. Dropping the salamander gives me 80 total, enough for another character/unit or an endless spell or two. Kinda tempted to take an assassin for 80pts to put in the PG. Can help with extra damage VS heroes Another option is to drop the 2nd LM and rather than an archmage, maybe by a unit for 180pts to give me some more bodies . Like 5 doomfire warlocks? Gives another spell and some mortal wound damage Edited May 27, 2019 by Chumphammer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chumphammer Posted May 30, 2019 Author Share Posted May 30, 2019 If I could get my hands on the doomfire warlocks/more pg...Anointed on Frostheart Phoenix (General): 280- Master of Defense- GlyphfeathersAnointed on Frostheart Phoenix: 280Anointed on Frostheart Phoenix: 28020 Phoenix Guard: 28010 Phoenix Guard: 14010 Phoenix Guard: 14010 Phoenix Guard: 14010 Phoenix Guard: 1405 Doomfire Warlocks: 1605 Doomfire Warlocks: 1602000pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingwalnut Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Chumphammer said: If I could get my hands on the doomfire warlocks/more pg...Anointed on Frostheart Phoenix (General): 280- Master of Defense- GlyphfeathersAnointed on Frostheart Phoenix: 280Anointed on Frostheart Phoenix: 28020 Phoenix Guard: 28010 Phoenix Guard: 14010 Phoenix Guard: 14010 Phoenix Guard: 14010 Phoenix Guard: 1405 Doomfire Warlocks: 1605 Doomfire Warlocks: 1602000pts Sadly, Doomfire Warlocks are Daughters of Khaine, and Daughters aren't a viable ally for Phoenix Temple, so they violate your Phoenix Temple allegiance...which makes the Phoenix Guard no longer battleline. (This always FEELS less complicated than spelling it out makes it...) You will need to find alternatives to the Doomfire Warlocks, or add regular battleline. To keep the Aelf theme, your best bet for Pure Battleline for a Mixed Order list would probably be Bleaksword/Spears/Darkshards from Darkling Covens. For keeping the Phoenix Temple deal, you are back to Archmages and Loremasters. You COULD do an Archmage on Dragon or Drakeseer. That's a lot of spicy behemoths... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chumphammer Posted May 30, 2019 Author Share Posted May 30, 2019 ******, forgot that. Cheers lol Yeah, AM on Dragon or Drakeseer could work. Or just sod magic and more PG or Frostheart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingwalnut Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 14 minutes ago, Chumphammer said: ******, forgot that. Cheers lol Yeah, AM on Dragon or Drakeseer could work. Or just sod magic and more PG or Frostheart It gets me so many times. Cool idea! Nope, breaks allegiance. It's why I played Mixed Order... lol Magic seems too good combined with the Phoenixes to not do in SOME degree. A Dragon mage would be my vote, they are durable if you aren't too reckless and can keep up with Phoenixes. Drakeseer would give you room for an endless spell like Soulsnare Shackles or Quicksilver Swords. Monster mash, yay! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aelfric Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 44 minutes ago, flamingwalnut said: It gets me so many times. Cool idea! Nope, breaks allegiance. It's why I played Mixed Order... lol Magic seems too good combined with the Phoenixes to not do in SOME degree. A Dragon mage would be my vote, they are durable if you aren't too reckless and can keep up with Phoenixes. Drakeseer would give you room for an endless spell like Soulsnare Shackles or Quicksilver Swords. Monster mash, yay! Endless spells don't count towards your allies points cost, so not a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingwalnut Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Just now, Aelfric said: Endless spells don't count towards your allies points cost, so not a problem. I was more talking about points. The Warlocks are 320 total, so either an Archmage, or a Draekseer with some room for Endless Spells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chumphammer Posted May 31, 2019 Author Share Posted May 31, 2019 I just managed to get my hands on 30 more PG and another of each phoenix Means I am at 60 PG, 4 Frosthearts, 2 Flamespyres, a few annointed on foot Managed to get 5 - 10 (not sure yet) sisters of the thorn too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiagoma Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 (edited) 10 Sisters are not worthy it imo. Too expensive and brings nothing that a group of 5 couldnt do. Edited June 1, 2019 by Thiagoma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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