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I am torn between both of these. 2 x 20 gives more versatility, as my unit of 10 did nothing game 2 bar cast Ethereal on the unit of 30 The benefit I have found of 1 big block is I can buff it for max effect (5+ Damage, Etheral, Protection, Cathallar) and take the brunt of the impact, while the other unit of 10 can run support. Tbh I would love 3 x 20 lol. But its squeezing it in. I might be able to get 1 x 30 and 2 x 10 which might help for board control and having a punching force

My thoughts on Teclis: List looks alright. Only thing I might change would be Maybe switching out the Sentinels to 10's and then having 2 x 10 Wardens to go behind the Stoneguard as extra damage support, but I think that increases you to 8 drops.

So played two games with my LrL now (one loss vs cities, one win vs Mixed Death) and some things I have noted about the units so far (as I have run a mix of everything, list below) I am running: Zaitrec Light of Eltharion Stonemage (General) Fast learner, Gift of Celennar Cathallar: Silverwand 30 Wardens 10 Wardens 2 x 10 Sentinels 5 Dawnriders 5 Stoneguard Avalenor Legion Twinstones My breakdown so far: Zaitrec: the +1 magic is really useful, but so far I haven’t had much chance to use their unique spell as I have other stuff I want to cast, plus the artifact/trait is meh. Might look at alt options Light of Eltharion: very average so far. He died game 1 turn 3 to some demigryphs, and was shot off turn 1 game 2. His bubble is good for bravery, but without a better than 5+ FNP I find him to be pretty easy to deal with. Might replace Stonemage: lived both games, and taking assault of stone spell is useful. Main reason he is there is to support Avalenor Cathallar: my main spell caster usually throwing out Eclipse and Protection. The battle shock ability has been good so far. Definitely a keeper. Wardens: Love them. Yeah, they can be slowish as you don’t want to run/charge them unless you need to. With Ethereal/Protection and Legion on they can be pretty tanky. Good damage output also. Sentinels: Good support and snipes like everyone expected. I might need more than 2x10 Dawnriders: not had much chance to shine. Died turn one both games Stoneguard: Actually, been pretty useful. Though 4 mov, you can run them at least. With Avalenor giving them +1 attack they can be great support for 100pts. Might change my unit to 10 Avalenor: has been a mixed bag, but mainly due to my ****** dice rolls with him. Game one he soaked a lot of shooting attention and game 2 he did well enough. Twinstones: great for the points and stable to my lists now. SO, what next? I will probably keep the same list for another game or 2 to see learn the army more, but I kinda might drop Eltharion and then boost 5 stoneguard to 10, and the 5 Dawnriders to 10.

The whole group done. I have 10 more Wardens and 5 Dawnriders coming but now I wait till GW release the rest lol.

Dawnriders nearly done (just faces and gems to finish then any tidying like the shields) Pretty happy the way the unit looks

The Underworlds DOK are out in August

Wip on the Wardens. Still got the Corax Trim to do and then shade/tidy Getting my 1st game on Saturday in months and first with lrl. Playing Citites

The finished DOK list before the end of GBH2019 lol Never got to play it sadly. Gotta see what options I have for GHB2020. Celestant Prime (now a tasty 300 from 340) could be coming into the list as Chariots went up

Its just my own painting I feel isn't great lol. Never be afraid to show your models as everyone's different Also this. 2.0 tease I hope

Awww, cheers my dude. I am not very good at painting so thanks for the compliment

yeah the rest of the unit will be normal dawnriders on lions

About done bar a little face work and Eltharions cloak

https://chat.whatsapp.com/GgviNsOWIiA86Bvqyr5ecv

So heard Scourgerunners are going up 20pts. So depending on discount for 3 I might drop them for 10 more shadow warriors

As long as Scourerunners and shadowwarriors dont change, my list goes down 10pts so I can get a 40pt endless spell rather than a 30pt. I honestly think this is a sign of an update before GHB2021

Hag on foot up 10 Bloodwrack shrine and hag on cauldron down 10 Doomfire warlocks down 20 So we go pretty much untouched. Wonder if it means new book or just happy with our power level

Loving seeing people post their models. looking great!

Looks pretty solid. Only thing I would try and squeeze in would be 5 or 10 dawnriders. I think they dd a lot of value to the list as a support unit or late game obj cap unit

Sons of Behemat points: Mancrusher: 180/480 (1/3) Gate breaker 490 Kraken eater 490 War stomper 480 No allies

Not finished yet but my first two wip for Lions of Lumineth

I have my opinions but I wanna get some games with them as they seem very much about synergies rather than 1 off power units

Well, You are stating your personal opinion from a competitive perspective, so I am wondering what your level of competitiveness is? Are you an ETC player? do you top 3 in many large tournaments? Just wondering to what level your experience adds weight to your review

@swarmofseals Just wondering what your "competitive perspective" experience is?

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