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Hey,
If anyone else fancies attending this event on short notice, I am putting a couple more tickets on sale. Drop me a DM if you are interested.
Chris
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Morning guys,
It won't be long until I'm doing the draw, so if any of you fancy a grudge, please get them in soon. Currently just the 6;
1 - Matthew Lyons vs Ben Diesel
2 - James Box vs Jonathon Kyprianidis
3 - Chris Lewis vs Tom Hewitt
4 - Matt Arnold vs Elliot O’Neill
5 - Ben Johnson vs Ricky Mee
6 - Will Philpott vs Steve Hursell -
On 7/12/2018 at 11:02 AM, syph0n said:
Is this going to end up as a Mixed Order army with the ally changes then? Lord Arcanum on Tauralon, 3x5 Sequitors?
As an owner of a non-Battletome army myself, it's annoyed the hell out of me that I couldn't take 2x Sorceress and 2x Ballista for the points, because my army is low unit count with 2 dragons and 2 hydras.
I saw all this on Twitter "as it happened" and the theme is fantastic. Great work overall, and not to diminish each bit of paintwork (as I think it's brill across each section), but this army proves that great colour choice, basing and careful modelling can lift an army beyond the sum of its parts!
I honestly am not sure how the army will end up. I suspect I'll have a Phoenix Temple army and a Stormcast army that is all fully interchangeable and may well be usable as an Order army (if I paint the generic battleline).
As mentioned, the ally changes are my least favourite thing about the new edition. I think they tend to only stop thematic/fun choices as none of the strong builds out there make use of multiple allied units....I'm pretty sure at this moment in time it's purely to stop Ballista spam (pretty much the only example anyone can give). Bit of a shame, but oh well, we'll just have to adapt with the times. No drama really.
Thanks for your comments on the army. I actually think you're spot on. I am of course happy with the overall paint level, especially how consistent it is (big thing for me), but it is definitely not anywhere near my best level. My Ironjawz are technically much better, however because of the things you've listed such as theme, colour, basing, conversions etc, I think this army will stand out and command a decent amount of attention, almost regardless of the actual painting level.
On 7/12/2018 at 3:09 PM, Frozenbeast said:Fantastic models especially the last Phoenix. I have had the same idea for months but didn t have the chance to buy one and do it so now I ll have to "steal" your idea.?Just I need to find out the right support for it.
Incredible job mate!!
Keep going I love them.
Thanks man. I am happy with the way the 3 Phoenixes came together as at the start of the project I did some incredibly rough drawings of the poses I wanted to go for and thankfully have been able to get them all to work.
Be sure to share some pics of yours when complete.
On 7/12/2018 at 5:31 PM, flamingwalnut said:Just wanted to say that this army is FANTASTIC! It was a joy to watch it all come together and almost makes me want some Phoenix Temple. (Must...resist!)
Can't wait to see more of this and more of future projects.
Cheers bro, thanks for the kinds words. Glad you like the army and can be somewhat inspired by it....go pick yourself up Phoenix Guard...NOW!
On 7/13/2018 at 8:38 AM, Davariel said:It's a minor touch but I really, really like how you've used the Osgiliath ruins as basing materials. They give the army such a strong sense of ancient grandeur crumbling away... which of course complements high elves perfectly (perhaps now more than ever with how AoS has treated them
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Looking forward as always to see what you add next!
Thanks! You've completely understood the aesthetic I was going for with the Osgiliath ruins there. It really helps tell a story for the army doesn't it? Also in keeping with the title of the topic.
In other news, the project continues as I have purchased a High Aelf Skycutter which I will be using for my Aetherlab at RAW 2018 (a narrative event later this year). Can't wait to model and paint that.
So watch this space, not done yet!!
Thanks for the replies,
Chris
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9 hours ago, JustPlay-Ritchie said:
Certainly concerned and would love to know if it will be allowed no matter what GW do ?
Let's just wait for the FAQ before worrying whether the sky is falling shall we?
GW are well aware of the issues brought to light from the Six Nations and I think we can show a little faith in them at this time.
Hang in there, it'll be ok. We won't be playing with damage 512 Grots (@Donal - your terrible terrible record is likely to be safe!)
This is my last comment on the matter until the FAQ is released.
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11 hours ago, ianob said:
Any comp for command point stacking and other common issues yet to be FAQ’d planned in lieu of a GW faq before the event?
10 hours ago, JustPlay-Ritchie said:Good to see a rules pack rather not be in the realms but I guess at least you have kept it fairly tame and cut the just plain stupid stuff did not expect to avoid them all season.
Worried about no mention of command points stacking if GW don't stop them all before this (or never do) are you going to allow it?
You two are very panicky indeed!
I am reliably informed there is a GW FAQ to come imminently. As per the pack, all GW FAQs will be in place.
9 hours ago, MrCharisma said:Great pack Chris. I'm going to check out how the realm rules you've selected and potentially incorporate them in Sydney GT.
Love that you're embracing as much of the rules as possible.
Thanks Anthony. I definitely wanted to include the Realm Rules, but also felt it seemed sensible to manage their impact somewhat - most just to save some time for the players and allow people to plan/prepare better.
Let me know how you get on with them at Sydney GT.
3 hours ago, Sangfroid said:Great pack @Chris Tomlin glad to see your leading the way again with how the game should be played. The add on rules are fun and for armies without fancy new books extra spells and command abilities are a welcome addition!
I did notice a mistake in the pack though I think you meant to write “impenetrable gloom” for the Ulgu Realmscape! I didn’t want to point it out because it’s a really ,really, really “cough” nasty pain for Ironjawz armies but thought I’d be remiss not to point it out... ??
Hahaha!! Genuinely made me laugh.
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23 minutes ago, Carnelian said:
Thanks Chris!
Any idea what time we need to arrive on Friday for shadespire? I trying to book time off work now!
You have just beaten me to it re Shadespire!
To participate in Shadespire, you need to follow this link and sign up, your name will then be on the roster to play. This is a free event being run by Firestorm with full GW prize support as per the link. I will also be adding trophies for Best Warband and Best Opponent.
You need to arrive by 5.30pm for registration and the first round starts at 6pm. All the details for the event can be found the above link.
It'd be really good to pack this out as well...and then straight on to Metros!
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Yeh Firestorm has terrain for all tables
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49 minutes ago, ianob said:
Any chance of a rules pack ASAP for this? Not long now to be choosing and painting armies without knowing what rukesnyoure using/not using! Cheers
Clearly this is something I am working on as per my above messages!
As previously advised, I want to run an event that is in keeping with how the new edition has been designed to be played (even at a tournament level), so this event will include Realm Rules!!
The pack will announce which 5 realms will be used over the weekend as well as the specific realmscapes in use. This should allow us to see how these work for events (which is important imo), whilst also reducing the amount of reading/planning required for you, the players.
Things like realm artefacts, endless spells etc I'm sure will just be considered a staple part of the game anyway and will of course be in use.
You can expect to play any of the 18 matched play scenarios and armies will be 2,000 points. I think that is the gist of it, but check back this evening for the full pack.
Many thanks for all of your patience...I know you all want to paint your armies and whatnot, but trust me, this is more of a headache for me that it is for you!!
Chris
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1 minute ago, KnaveOfScribes said:
Congrats on the awards man, they are well deserved - that's a beautiful looking army you've made so far. I like the subtlety of the conversion work on the Incantor, works really well to link her to the Temple overall. Your Lotann is great as well - I think a lot of people get distracted by the Ochtar and overlook just how lovely and understated Lotann himself is, but your scheme really draws attention to him against the pale blues and greys. Lovely.
Thanks man, most appreciated.
Glad you like the Incantor and appreciate the subtlety. I didn't want to push the Phoenix Temple link too much in the conversion as I know it'd be a pain to source the parts to follow it through across all the Stormcast I do, so instead I went more for a nod towards it, which I think works.
You're completely right with Lotann. He is very much overshadowed by Ochtar (literally in the case of the stock model), so it's nice to be able to put some focus on the man himself, who as you rightly say is a lovely sculpt.
The little awards are really nice and mean a lot, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't hopeful of winning something for the army itself when I get around to taking it to a tournament. It's definitely not as technically well painted as my Ironjawz or as obnoxiously grandiose as my Venetian Court (with display board and music haha), but hopefully it do ok. Time will tell and regardless, I'm pretty proud of it as a project overall!
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Thanks @AthlorianStoners, glad you've enjoy it. Thanks for following along. As I said I will be adding plenty more so it's not over yet. As for Lotann, here are some photos I took. Found it tricky to take any good ones tbh. The cloth looks horrid in these, but is actually nice irl...likewise the drybrushing on the stonework is no where near as rough and gross as it looks haha!
This is another example of me rigidly sticking to my self enforced colour pallet. I think that Ochtar would've looked much better in a turquoise but that wouldn't have been in keeping.
It's also hard to tell how in depth the conversion is...we didn't actually need to keep the model on the 40mm base it came with, which I didn't realise until it was too late. Had I known this I would've been able to open everything up a bit more and make a bigger deal of it. The winning entries all made use of bigger display plinths, which IMO caught the eye of the voters over anything else.
Still, at least the conversion work was noted by the voters and I picked up the trophy for that, which was pretty cool. Doing the Paint Battle was good fun as this isn't a model I would've chosen to paint. If we count him as part of the army, it's the second trophy it's won so far as I got Best Warband at a Skirmish event for the Phoenix Temple. I am looking forward to taking the full army out to a Tournament later this year and seeing how it does though!
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Morning all,
Sorry it's been ages since I posted here (or at all on the forums really
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On 6/9/2018 at 1:46 PM, KnaveOfScribes said:That's some great work on the Archmage Chris, he looks lovely. Its an often overlooked model I think, which is shame because despite its age and some soft details, its still a great kit with a ton of potential and nice little bits.
Are you thinking of adding some Sacrosanct units at some point? Can't lie, I think they'd work really well with your Temple, and I'd love to see your take on them.
Thanks man. Yeh you've nailed my thoughts on the models there, especially regarding the soft detail.
I am 100% adding Sacrosanct units to the army, as you say they should look pretty great in this scheme I reckon. I've already assembled a Knight-Incantor with a couple of small conversions to tie her into the Phoenix Temple a bit more and then there are plenty more units I plan to add, so this thread will definitely continue as the army builds.
On 6/9/2018 at 9:00 PM, Mandzak-Miniatures said:Awesome stuff here! I have always like the Phoenix Temple and have wanted to pick some up. Is it safe to assume you will be making more considering the preview they got?
Thanks a lot! As per above, my initial focus will be around adding more Stormcast to the army, but I may well include more Phoenix Temple units over time. After painting 50 Phoenix Guard to a pretty decent standard over 6 months I am in no rush to paint any more of them haha!
So our campaign is now over and everyone has finished their 2,000 point armies. You can search the hashtag #FromEmberToInferno on Twitter to see everyones work. There's a lovely Tzeentch army from @Cowboy Boots Matt, a super cool Spiderfang Grot army by @Paul Buckler and a spooky Pirate Wraithfleet force from @Forestreveries - two of these have already won painting trophies at two day events. The standard was very high across the campaign.
I guess I'd be remiss to not mention the fact that my army performed very well across the campaign, winning every game and taking first place with a tonne of Glory points. That said, in the vacuum of our four armies mine did unfortunately end up being a little overpowered, a fact that was exacerbated by some of the bonus items/abilities I got. Still, it was a lot of fun regardless and we will definitely be revisiting the format for a second season next year.
The final units I added to the army in month 6 were 10 more Phoenix Guard to bump one of my units up to 30 and a Frostheart Phoenix. For this 3rd Phoenix I decided to have him unridden. My reason for this was twofold; firstly I wanted to reduce the potential power level of the army for the campaign and also I had hoped that AoS 2 would introduce a different points cost for an unridden Phoenix, making it a viable option. Unfortunately this was not the case, so I will be adding an Anointed to the ruins on his base going forwards as there is absolutely not reason not to, which is a shame.
Here are the final 10 Phoenix Guard. I do really like these models, but as per above will not be in a rush to paint anymore. That said with there points reductions in the new addition there definitely is a temptation to do some more down the line;
And then finally is my third Phoenix. I'm pretty happy with this guy. The paint is mostly pretty nice and all in all I am happy with the pose, although it didn't quite turn out as I envisioned. All 3 Phoenixes have ended up slightly different colours, which I think is ok.
The coolest thing for me is the snow spray. When I was originally planning my Phoenix conversions I did some crude drawings in the campaign WhatsApp group and had one of a Phoenix with a vertical wingspan like this shooting through the snow with it spraying up. I wasn't sure how I'd be able to model this, but I'm really very pleased with how it came out eventually (took a long time to build up over a blister pack skeleton). Once again I'm pleased with the icicles as well. Hope you like him!
So yeh, that's it for now. Going forward the army does have to undergo some change in the new edition unfortunately. I'm really not a fan of the new restrictions for allies as I think they penalise cool themed armies like this and actually does nothing against power builds. I literally think they were just scared of all Order armies taking 4 Celestar Ballistas, which probably alludes to a different issue other than allies overall haha!
This does give me a chance to paint up a bunch of the new Stormcast models in this colour scheme and eventually I can mix and match the units perhaps. Definitely looking forward to converting a Tauralon into more of a Griffon/Hippogryph to better fit the army.
Thanks for all the likes and comments in this thread so far. Keep an eye out for what's to come in the future as I am planning on taking this army to at least a couple of events before the year is up.
To finish up, here a couple of rubbish photos of the full army in my display cabinets. I would like to do some full army shots on a snow mat or something, but for now it's cool just to see it all laid out. I've also included the Lotann I painted in the same colour scheme for the #BattlerollPaintBattle (where I won Coolest Conversion). Not sure if I posted pics of him on here, but I could if people wanted to see him. Enjoy;
Chris x
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On 7/5/2018 at 11:47 AM, Caffran101 said:
Hi Chris
Sorry to be "that guy".
Have you had any thoughts on whether you will be using the realm rules for the games played at blackout?
I'm giving consideration to everything at the moment and want to get a definitive pack up as soon as possible. However I also don't want to rush into any decisions.
Hopefully I will have some further guidance for you all over the coming days. Apologies for the delay, I know it's not ideal at all...I really thought I'd dodge all the game changing stuff by bringing the event forward this year...it's now 3 years in a row I've run events straight after new rules dropped haha!!
EDIT - Also going to announce details of the FREE Shadespire Store Championships that will be running on the Friday for BLACKOUT attendees. Hopefully a bunch of you will take part in that as well. Great opportunity to pick up some of the awesome GW prize support whilst playing vs friendly AoS regulars.
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@Double Misfire - Thanks for posting the clarification. That's handy to know. I hadn't seen that.
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<EDIT - Removed incorrect info re Firestorm>
I've also found the new ally cap a little restrictive as it's hard to get more than 2 units of allies unless you fancy spamming units of 10 Phoenix Guard.
I think the core of the list has to look something like this;
3 Anointed on Frostheart
Anointed30 Phoenix Guard
2x 10 Phoenix GuardAnd then ally in two wizard units. As we have spare points now I think going for more expensive Stormcast ones may be an idea as their added survivability is also nicely in keeping with the army. You'll also be able to afford Endless Spells and/or a bonus Command Point. There's also the potential to juggle things a little to squeeze that 4th Frostheart (I think).
I'll contribute some proper lists next week when I've mulled it over a bit more. Having picked up Soul Wars, I definitely plan to paint and base my Sacrosanct in the same scheme so will have some flexibility there.
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Another fantastic topic @Double Misfire - Appreciate you going to all this effort for under represented factions/armies. Very useful information.
For what it's worth, there is a weird nuance with Phoenicium where you can't actually take a straight up Phoenix Temple army for it, as the Phoenix Guard loose their battleline status because technically your allegiance is Phoenicium and not Phoenix Guard!! Please correct me if I am mistaken, but that is how I (frustratingly) understood it.
Thanks again mate, adding this to the Order Hub,
Chris
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49 minutes ago, Ollie Grimwood said:
It’s a bit difficult though because I’m fairly sure, like me, everyone’s Ogor units are on 40s and rebasing just to check it out is not something I’d relish.
Tbh, I think this trumps any in-game issues that may arise as a result of the change.
And yeh, good points re pile ins in AoS 2.
31 minutes ago, Moonlightwolf said:Yeah I wouldn't usually do this but I emailed them as well, I started my gutbusters with AoS and always followed the images in GA destruction when it came to basing, the idea of having to rebase most of my army when I've been following GWs own images since AoS released is crazy to me.
Yeh this is what I've done throughout, it would irk me as well if I'm honest (glad I've sold my Gutbusters!!)
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41 minutes ago, Ollie Grimwood said:
Gameplay wise (not modelling as that’s fairly obvious) would someone explain why 50s are worse than 40s. 2” range still allows you to attack over the front rank (for Ironguts). The greater board coverage is surely useful especially with such a low mode count?
Good question Ollie and to be fair, you make a good counter point. Having a greater board coverage is undoubtedly useful when it comes to a small model count army in an objective based game.
However, at the business end, Gutbusters are a combat army, so anything that has a negative impact on the way they perform there is likely to hurt them.
A few quick things to consider;- Whilst Ironguts can still attack through a 50mm base, it does mean everything has to be completely flush. This means you can't stagger your bases to push even more attacks through (perhaps hard to explain without pics).
- Similar to the above, with 40mm bases it is possible for even Ogors to gain a lot more attacks by staggering their models into a kind of zig-zag wavy formation...again, I'm not explaining this well without pics haha!! With 50mm bases, you are forced to go tight and wide if you want to maximise attacks.
- The enemy is going to be able to get more attacks back on you. Not just because the individual bases are larger, but because you'll have to commit more to the front line.
- The potential for people to stop pile-in's by tagging the sides of units is greater. With 50mm's, you're still likely to bring an additional model to the side but beyond that it may be tricky. Not a huge deal, but every little counts.
There's definitely an argument to be had for bigger sizes being better in some situations, but overall I think Ogors and Ironguts in particular are more efficient on 40mm bases.
Chris
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Morning,
Whilst I sold on my Gutbusters a while back, I had rebased them all on 40mm bases within the exceptions of Maneaters and Characters that went on 50mm bases. All my rebasing thus far has gone off the GW photos (If the models have not been repacked) and all the Ogors, Leadbelchers and Ironguts have definitely been depicted on 40mm's.
This seems like a solid nerf to the army in terms of gameplay, let alone the time and financial concerns associated with (more) rebasing. A sad day for the big lads
I definitely wish you well with your petitioning. My suggestion would certainly be for sensible, politely reasoned e-mails as opposed to Facebook rage!
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Hey,
I should also note that I am especially invested in this one as the last army I've been working on in the current edition is Phoenix Temple and have only really played them in a campaign. So moving into the new edition I look forward to actually discussing lists as I plan to take the Phoenix Temple to a number of Tournaments over the next 6 months!
I'll post up some initial AoS 2 list ideas at the start of next week. In the mean time though, hopefully there will be some others out there who see the Phoenix Temple as more than just the Frostheart Phoenix jammed into other armies!
Chris
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Morning all,
Here is the new thread for discussing Phoenix Temple. With the imminent release of AoS 2 (and a lot of the info already being out there), now is the time for us to start afresh on TGA.
Moving forward, this will be the main thread to chat about and discuss Phoenix Temple in the new edition. I still wholly encourage people to keep their own threads/army blogs within this sub forum and I also think those are a great place to share some photos as I know not everyone frequents the Painting & Modelling section (In this instance, my own Phoenix Temple blog is in the Painting & Modelling section as at present it hasn't been gaming focused, you can find that HERE). But this thread is purely for discussion around the faction, things such as (but not limited to) tactics and list building etc. You all know the drill, we've been doing it on this forum since inception!
For newer players, I would say the older thread could still be worth perusal and whilst it is now locked for further replies, you can find it here - http://www.tga.community/forums/topic/11304-lets-chat-phoenix-temple/?tab=comments#comment-124652
Really excited to see what we can come up with as a community and I look forward to reading all your ideas and thoughts.
Chris
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@Overread - I've linked to your topic within the first post and have included your title as a description. Thanks for the contribution, most appreciated.
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Morning all,
Here is the new thread for discussing Darkling Covens. With the imminent release of AoS 2 (and a lot of the info already being out there), now is the time for us to start afresh on TGA.
Moving forward, this will be the main thread to chat about and discuss Darkling Covens in the new edition. I still wholly encourage people to keep their own threads/army blogs within this sub forum and I also think those are a great place to share some photos as I know not everyone frequents the Painting & Modelling section (like me!). But this thread is purely for discussion around the faction, things such as (but not limited to) tactics and list building etc. You all know the drill, we've been doing it on this forum since inception!
For newer players, I would say the older thread could still be worth perusal (especially as it is one of the shorter threads like this) and whilst it is now locked for further replies, you can find it here - http://www.tga.community/forums/topic/11326-lets-chat-darkling-covens/
Really excited to see what we can come up with as a community and I look forward to reading all your ideas and thoughts.
Chris
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Morning all,
Here is the new thread for discussing Seraphon. With the imminent release of AoS 2 (and a lot of the info already being out there), now is the time for us to start afresh on TGA.
Moving forward, this will be the main thread to chat about and discuss Seraphon in the new edition. I still wholly encourage people to keep their own threads/army blogs within this sub forum and I also think those are a great place to share some photos as I know not everyone frequents the Painting & Modelling section (like me!). But this thread is purely for discussion around the faction, things such as (but not limited to) tactics and list building etc. You all know the drill, we've been doing it on this forum since inception!
For newer players, I would say the older thread could still be worth perusal and whilst it is now locked for further replies, you can find it here - http://www.tga.community/forums/topic/11252-lets-chat-seraphon-2017/
Really excited to see what we can come up with as a community and I look forward to reading all your ideas and thoughts.
Chris
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Events UK: BLACKOUT - Firestorm Games - 4&5th August - Pack released
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Afternoon guys,
In case you haven't seen, the new FAQ is out. This will be used at BLACKOUT so please give it a good once over.
I think you will agree GW have done a good job in sorting out most of the perceived issues with the game following Six Nations.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/faqs/
Cheers, Chris