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3 hours ago, Aeryenn said:

I wrote it in a different forum but it's worth to mention it again.

Just think of the possibilities if each Clan had space to develop on its own.

Skyre as high tech faction, with rat mechs, walkers, cannons. Kharadrons shouldn't be the only advanced faction.

Moulder with all its mutations and numbers.

Eshin is difficult to develop but not impossible as well.

We had a take on Pestilens and I think it could work if given enough attention.

If Aelves can have a dozen factions, why can't Skaven have more than one?

I have collected Skaven since WHFB 5 edition. But are Skaven truly so popular to warrant a Chaos treatment?

That each clan becomes its own faction as each Chaos god now has its own faction.

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Nope, that one is still on my to-read list.

Mostly because BL take on Slaaneshi antagonists is in most cases absolutely identical.

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4 minutes ago, Popisdead said:

HoS were the main antagonists of the Lumineth novel, I would read that one if you wanted recent Slaanesh stuff.  Email BL telling them you liked the Slaanesh inclusion and would like to see a pure Slaanesh novel again.  Otherwise they just make more spece mureen novels,..

Hedonites have appeared as antagonists. I read all that I could find.

I was hoping to see them as protagonists of a novel dedicated purely to them.

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Today is Black Library day!

I am hoping we get something.

Maybe a Hedonite novel?

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1 minute ago, Enoby said:

Thanks very much - this actually looks very promising Hopefully with the heads of department looking into it there'll be some movement. Like they said, there's no guarantee, but with 333 people answering the survey I'd hope that they give it some thought and maybe at least a preliminary cautious points drop next FAQ (e.g. 10 points off most things to see how it goes)    

Absolutely, you did a excellent job with survey.

Personally, I think there are very big chances that this survey could lead to very good feedback from GW.

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@Enoby

I have sent the email and received a reply from GW.

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Good morning,

Thank you so much for taking the time to put down your thoughts in this email and for sending over the results of your survey.

We do take all feedback very seriously from our customers, so this email has been passed on to the relevant heads of departments to look into. Whilst I cannot guarantee a reply from them, or any changes, I assure you that your email will be looked into.

Thanks again for your email, and should you need anything further, please let me know.
Kind regards

 

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11 minutes ago, AngryPanda said:

Putting on my tin foil hat, in the somewhat recent AoS Coach interview with Russ Veal, he mentioned the reason for the apparent nerfs and high point costs were because of “some disgruntlement behind the scenes” that he can’t disclose. 
 

Honestly, I have a slight suspicion that someone in the rules team dislikes Slaanesh, or the bad backlash from the first book left some very bad tastes for some of the rule designers. Whichever the case is, I really hope it doesn’t carry into the Twins; it isn’t good rule design philosophy. 

I saw this suspicion mentioned multiple times on multiple locations by various people. It is possible, I guess.

On the good side, I am 99% sure that sculpting department of GW loves Slaanesh.

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34 minutes ago, AngryPanda said:

Just wanted to point out something strange: in the recent info video for the reveal of Kragnos, the designer talked about his excitement for all the new centerpiece models, except for the upcoming Twins.
 

I find it strange, considering leading up to our release we didn’t get much love either; GW couldn’t even find time to mention the birth of a God’s offspring. 
 

Link to video

I do not find it strange, Slaanesh has always been the GW least favorite Chaos God and that has been shown systematically throughout their work across all games and all lore.

I am honestly amazed we got such a beautiful model line, but absence of any new novels for such a massive and beautiful release was truly sad event. Lumineth are on their third full novel, we nothing. Considering that imprisonment of Slaanesh was set up as big plot device from start of Age of Sigmar, the fact that actual children of Slaanesh are walking the Realms should be a massive deal.

Also, I hope that the Twins are not in Broken Realms Kragnos book only to be stomped to ground by Kragnos or Kroak.

[The Rumour Thread]

So, I am new to forum, how do you know so much @Whitefang?

Your leaks are, from what I see in the past, correct. You have good sources.

[The Rumour Thread]

1 minute ago, Painbringer said:

If only Everblight models looked like this! I still have nightmares because of those metal Nyss seordsmen

You saw the most recent Pride of Everblight model? She is meant to be beautiful, reflection of Everblight aesthetics.

One of most horrible models I ever saw, just plain ugly. Rumors are true, I guess, PP can not afford good sculpt artists anymore.

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9 minutes ago, Feii said:

last week in this thread

Link?

@Whitefang can you confirm or deny this?

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6 minutes ago, Aeryenn said:

I'm East European and don't see those vampires this way. 😛

Slavic myself and I do see Slavic influence in etymology.

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1 minute ago, Feii said:

he already said yes but not as soon as you might expect 

Where? Link to his post?

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1 minute ago, Feii said:

for me especially the grave guard and stuff like the ghoul "subtype"

Once again, quite possible.

I have to say that GW did well by making new Vampires East European, good timing, as Resident Evil 8 is about to come out.

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@Whitefang

I am seconding the question @Aeryenn asked.

Is there hope for Kurnothi in the future?

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5 minutes ago, Feii said:

ok so basically Soulblight gonna get that LRL and SLaanehs treatment. LMAO  


See ya in 8 months when the second half of the army is released. 

Quite possible.

I did expect more for Soulblight.

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17 minutes ago, Aeryenn said:

Great preview... but really, really sad. Kragnos didn't turn out to be Kurnothi nor Beastmen. He's just a Be'lakor of Destruction basically, not a leader of a new faction. 

What really bothers me it's that he is a centaur. Kurnothi warband has a centaur as well. Now I'm afraid that Kurnothi warband was just a one time thing.

That he is a centaur, really lowers down the possibility that we will ever get a Kurnothi army.

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Yeah, Kragnos does not look at all like he would fit in Destruction.

His overall aesthetics screams Kurnothi or BoC.

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@AngryPanda

Great phrasing, I sent the email to GW a minute ago.

Hail Slaanesh!

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1 hour ago, Carnith said:

@Enoby, while watching the streamer HeyWoah on twitch, I mentioned the survey results. He went over them and discussed how he felt about the results. Kinda laughing how much people were on board for over costed units since he did largely agree with it. 
 

link to the VoD. 1 hour and 25 minutes in. I'm bad at time

How do you feel about our new rules? From cost to creativity?

@Popisdead

Let us hope we get a good development team to take a look at this survey.

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4 hours ago, Enoby said:

I think some of the data has to be taken with a grain of salt, a lot of people (79% to be pricise) think the book is too highly costed as a whole and so kind of let that bleed over. I reckon GW may ignore models that have a mostly even split and focus on the ones that are at least 60% and upwards, if not 70% upwards. 

I do hope this leads to a change in the points for Slaangors, Twinsouls, Painbringers, and Blissbarb archers. While I'd like to see the shardspeaker and LoP go down too, the units are more important.

I'm going to be thinking of a draft soon - and would definitely appreciate some input.

I think an important thing is that a few people should send it in, on different days. It's harder to coordinate, but from being on a company inbox before it's easy for things to get forgotten about on a particularly busy day.   

Honestly, if they changed points for Twinsouls and Painbringers and did a rewrite of Slaangor scrolls, I am beyond delighted.   🤩

I am hoping @AngryPanda comes in, we need to send this to GW asap, possibly from multiple people as you already said.

I am volunteering to be one of those people.  We all need to send same data and same message.

 

[The Hedonites of Slaanesh battletome 2021 survey]

@Enoby

Interesting data.

I knew Slaangors, Twin Souls and Painbringers were things that had a consensus among people.

But for example Slickblade Seekers and Blissbarb Seekers are basically very close to half people see them as costed too highly, half people see them as correctly costed.  I think they are correctly costed.

@AngryPanda

Data is here, now how to phrase a email that GW will take notice of, that is a another question entirely.

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@Enoby

Interesting data.

I knew Slaangors, Twin Souls and Painbringers were things that had a consensus among people.

But for example Slickblade Seekers and Blissbarb Seekers are basically very close to half people see them as costed too highly, half people see them as correctly costed.  I think they are correctly costed.

@AngryPanda

Data is here, now how to phrase a email that GW will take notice of, that is a another question entirely.

 

[The Rumour Thread]

Honestly, I am loving all this speculation on who Kragnos is.

 

[AoS 2 - Hedonites of Slaanesh Discussion]

I do not want to get onto the hype train only to be disappointed, but the Twins should be absolute monsters in terms of power.

I mean, they are literally children of Slaanesh walking the Realms, what other Chaos God has accomplished that?