Rhetoric

Incredible! Can’t wait for Saturday

Finally, next installment of Broken Realms!

So it begins!

Sylvaneth is in a tough spot right now, speaking as someone who finished 2k of Sylvaneth in 2020. A rules refresh is most likely going to happen this year. Do you have a certain list in mind? I’d say the only surefire advice regardless of list is Kurnoth Hunters with Scythes or Swords. And depending on you list either TLA or Spirit of Durthu. I have two 5 man squads of Tree Revenants, but they only exist to snipe objects or be a teleporting screen. They do almost no damage and die to a stiff breeze. My suggestion would be to hold off on building your revenant kits until new rules come out. The models are fantastic and I enjoyed painting up my Sylvaneth,, but they are in a rough spot on the table right now

There’s no way Tyrion is coming in the wave of LRL from the New Years Day Teaser. The pose of the rider on the mount is pretty similar to the Akhelian King. I’d expect it’s a hero at the Akhelian King/Chaos Lord on Karkadrak/Liege Kavalos level. Tyrion is going to be much more over the top, I mean come on haha...

I started my Sylvaneth with a Wyldwood last holiday break and finished with an additional two sets of Wyldwoods a couple of days ago. I finished: TLA Spirit of Durthu Branchwraith (Ylthari) Branchwych Arch-Revenant 32 Dryads 10 Tree Revenants 9 Kurnoth Hunters 3 Wyldwood Sets Vengeful Skullroot just got to paint up my Spiteswarm Hive and add the basing accents and the army is done. Working from home was a real deal breaker and I stayed motivated to get the army done because of the wonderful community and content producers of this hobby. The only picture I have would be if this WIP(?) when I was working on my Durthu.

Heaven forbid us IDK get a chance to use our amazing looking models that haven’t seen the table in two years.

Just show us the new death stuff already, haha.... there’s so many death related RN’s at this point it’s nuts.

Got my first game in with the BR: Morathi rules for IDK, I faced Stormcast with some of their new rules as well. I really wanted to test the Leviadon and Allopex out. I have been running Dhom Hain preciously, but switched to Fuethan to get a feel for the new rules. my list: Akhelian King with Bladed Polearm, Lord of Storm and Sea, Cloud of Midnight, Voidchill Darkness. Soulscryer 2 x Ishlaen Guard units of 3 1 x Morrsarr Guard of 6 and one of 3 1 x Allopex unit of 3 Leviadon with Reverberating Carapace Akhelian Corp Extra CP Battleplan was Total Conquest I gave SCE the top of turn, he moved his Drakesworn and Concussors up backed by a unit of 10 Retributors towards the horizontal objective on my side of the board. In my turn I killed off two Vanguard Hunters and put some wounds on the Retirbutors with shooting. I won the roll off and gave him the top of turn 2 again, which he moved his Drakesworn and Concussors in to charge range . My Ishlaen took some mortals from the Rain of Stars/Storm Blasts. He charged in with his Drakesworn and did 0 damage to my Allopex unit and 1 damage to my Ishlaen with his Concussors. I killed off a Concussor with my Ishlaen and one of the Allopex in the unit of three. The other two put 7 or 8 damage into the Drakesworn (they were not getting extra bite attacks). In my turn two I shot off some Freeguild Handgunners with my turtle and did some damage to the Star drake with Allopex harpoons. I then charged my King and was able to finish off the Stardrake and Concussors with the Allopexes and King. I ended up winning the roll off and the writing was on the wall. The turtle charged in with the Akhelian King and Allopexes into the big Retributor unit and pasted them. I wanted to see the output of the Leviadon and between him and the King, they almost killed what was the left of the unit, which the Allopexes finished off. I still had my Soulscryer and 6 Morrsarr off the board and hadn’t even charged my MSU of Morrsarr and he only had a unit of Liberators, and what wasn’t shot off of the handgunners, and handful of SCE heroes. So he conceded there. Since I ran my other unit of Ishlaen to the objective across the board from my deployment, they didn’t see combat either. Basically my Leviadon, Allopexes, King, and one unit of Ishlaen did about 65 wounds worth of damage, and I didn’t lose a model. I really like the Allopexes, but the turtle was the MVP. Giving the +1 Save in 15” is huge and getting to three drops is amazing with Deepkin. These changes feel really strong and getting some damage in during the shooting phase feels good to soften up big units. Overall, really happy and hoping to get more games in soon.

I’m right there with you that Akhelian Corps is viable now, but without another hero I think ultimately this list isn’t competitive, Places of Arcane Power is probably an auto lose for this list. I think you’re looking at a good list if you can add a Soulscryer. My tough as nails Tournament list only includes Volturnos and a Soulscryer with Akhelian Corps in Dhom Hain. Even two heroes is tricky. I’d even suggest running the Morrsarr as MSU as well. You only have three units to do the heavy lifting in the list. I’m getting some games in soon with the BR: Morathi new rules and Akhelian Corps will be tested.

Awesome, thanks for typing that all out. What did you find after having ZERO Morrsarr in the list? Did Sharks output enough damage to compensate? Did you run into any battleshock losses on the big shark units? It seems like the updated Razorshell Harpoon profiles are actually putting in some work now. Can’t wait to get some games in myself with the new scrolls!

Good to see so much interest on this thread. I’m going to be able to get some games in soon after I have the Morathi book in hand. Really looking at Akhelian Corps with 15 Morrsarr, 3 Ishlaen, Allopex, and Leviadon with Volturnos and a Soulscryer w/Cloud of Midnight in Dhom-hain.

Totally, there aren’t that many other changes I’d like at this point. Give me 2” reach on Thralls, rewrite the Soulrender and Aspect of the Sea scroll and give us some CA’s beside the Lord of Tides. Maybe some Enclave rewrites, and make Rituals prayers. Ok, so maybe a few changes, but overall the army is fun to play even at competitive levels. And the models are superb.

I was talking about new models across all armies for Broken Realms! Trust me, I’m eagerly awaiting my Deepkin underworlds warband.

I’m psyched for BR: Morathi new rules and such for my Deepkin, but I can’t help but think where are these new models??

I’m not disagreeing with you, I’m just saying large units of Sharks may be useful. Deepkin don’t do well in protracted combat. But with sharks -2 rend in their bites with more attacks, they might be able to stay in a fight and still be relevant.

I’m not disappointed by the changes, but the one thing Deepkin lack is a CA. We still ONLY have the High Tide CA from Volturnos/Akhelian King. There’s definitely an opportunity to pump the CA on a unit of multiple sharks, plus their +1 attack from the new ability on the scroll.

All good changes, I was running an Aspect of the Storm before COVID anyway, +1 to wound is huge for an army that is wounding on 3’s to begin with. The Leviadon needs to see some time on the table still to make the decision on how useful it will be. The direction they took seems to me like it’s supposed to anchor your battleline, so it’s got to be able to survive in protracted combat, which is something Deepkin does not do well before BR Morathi. I’m super hyped about Allopex though. Unfortunately I think Aspect of the Sea just doesn’t belong anywhere still.

Allopex are looking really attractive now!

Right? It feels like there is a new Death related rumour engine every other week, that’s been going on for months now. A new Death faction that’s been teased feels right in Broken Realms.

I’m onboard with the new Battalion rules, that’s actually pretty nice to pass off some wounds to Allopex. Dying to see the new scrolls though.

Where are you seeing the prices on these bad boys?

Allopex are getting new scrolls. Battalions have also changed a ton since the IDK book came out. Let’s be honest the new scrolls for IDK are a sigh of relief, points could not fix those units that have new scrolls coming.

As an IDK player, the biggest news is new scrolls for Allopex/Leviadon/Eidolon. Reaaaaaally hoping there’s something new as well for IDK.

I was thinking too, a big faction like Cities might get more than just new Ulgu rules in a different Broken Realms book.