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yes but, Teclis can cast 4 auto spells at 10! Depending on how much +to dispell the enemy gets, it's practically unstoppable, unless very very lucky! You could basically make enemy casters use all of their dispel attempts just with using Teclis

For maximum splash MW damage I would try this list : If enemy lets you go first, you toast him with magic. If he goes first, he impales himself on the wardens, deletes them but next turn, he's magically roasted Archmage Teclis and Celennar, Spirit of Hysh (660) Celestant-Prime (340) Lord-Exorcist (120) - General Lord Kroak (320) 10 x Vanari Auralan Wardens (120) 10 x Vanari Auralan Wardens (120) 10 x Vanari Auralan Wardens (120) Umbral Spellportal (70) Everblaze Comet (100) Quicksilver Swords (30) Total: 2000 / 2000 Extra Command Points: 0 Allies: 0 / 400 Wounds: 66

Hey guys, can anyone of you post a comparison picture of LRL spearmen vs HE spearmen please ? To my great shame I bought the box, still waiting for it to arrive. Won't have time to build it before october. I'm wondering if those wardens could be a viable replacement for decrepit HE spearmen. Cheers

@Mark Williams I think the trick with a gav bomb is to have a flying hero with sword of judgement on, lots of attacks and good to hit to wound rolls. If you take a Skyborne slayers list + Azyros and Gavriel, you can do a nifty alpha one turn bomb list.

I thought about doing that but those shiny High Elves are so shinyyyy. Also, a good thing to do is buy second hand. That's what I do 90% of the time.

Buy LRL. GW wants you to do it. I did to my great shame!

@Turragor Thing is, I started playing SCE in 2018. My first list was a 1250 points tournament using "Skyborne slayers". It's an outdated yet effective battalion if you mix it with other stuff. Tbh, if you like paladins, you should try something around it.

Yeah, until it gets nerfed :D. Sadly, I used to theory craft totally crazy and powerful lists before COS. But now they're not usable anymore due to COS units only affecting COS units, even if taken in GA : Oder.

Is it still valid ? I mean we're supposed to use the latest scrolls available right ? Before COS is used to take an assassin in with the SCE, but now he can only hide within COS units. Do you see what I mean ?

@Marcvs LRL can ally by allied with Idoneth Deepkin. How would you ally them with Sce ?

Yeah you're right on that, there were a lot of redundant or crappy ones!

My Knight Azyros or Lord Celestant with Sword of judgement beg to differ.

It's indeed a major insult to the state of the game in general. They used to make us able to balance the game, even with defavourable odds (SCE BT sucks but artifacts mitigate that). Starcast will be heavily nerfed because of that. Shootcast don't really care.

This is more than a letdown. I really enjoyed tailoring my army lists with different artifacts. Some stormcast battalions/list who were subpar were made incredibly fun to me and challenging to my opponent, just because of artifacts. The disappoint is strong in me

But then it means that actual malign sorceries artifact will disappear. Otherwise it doesn't make sense!

Go for it. Stardrake + Desolators can be a real pain in the ass for your opponent. MW output at 12 inch for the 6 desolators, they get a 2+ with the staunch defender trait you put on your Stardrake, who's protected by ignax scales. You can switch the Castellant's light to the deso or the stardrake depending on what is attacking what. Come visit the Starcast thread. We've got everything you want over there ;).

Yes it's silly. Some outdated armies will really suffer! My SCE won't leave the shelves if I can't use Ignax scales!

I do not like the cow symbolism either, although the Cow behemoths are really well done miniatures. What I hate the most are the helmets of the cow warriors. But I did order a box, to my great shame. Because as you said, those battlelines are just WOW. I wish HE had such beautiful lancers.

I just saw the video and the two pages of the GHB 2020. It doesn't say we're forced, it's just IF we want our army to be specifically from a realm. So, we should be good, no ?

Are there any leaks yet ?

Ok cheers. They would make great replacement for the outdated HE lancers!

Can they be used in square base for WFB ?

You need a castellant, it's compulsory. A knight Azyros could do the trick too so you don't need a CP to reroll ones. Keep your Drake where it's "protected", on a table Edge. near your Desolators. Try to engage with the Drake first so the enemy can'tpile in on the desolators, wreck face with said unit. Rinse. Repeat.

Welcome to the party

Ah I see! Thanks, I never used that