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for now i cannot justify going anything els then skyborne slayers. That battleshock immume saved me so many games. That alpha strike is pretty oke even with sup par units. These new battalion/battletraits have to be good els i pretty much keep on playing my slayers probly. I kind of hope for the old hammerstrike battalion or vanguard wing style to get a return someday. Mayb with these battalions we got some interresting stuff.

yeah me 2. I really hope they give our paladins some love. I feel like our 2015 stormcast book had so much synergie and tricks for the warrior chamber and this last book from 2018? deleted almost every usefull battalion. Im playing skyborne slayers for 3 years. Its time to get more warrior chamber themed stuff

Yeah that is true but gryphounds are still 18 wounds + Super fast and can disengage from melee. They are the perfect screen trick wise ( overcosted a bit). Ive seen them play pretty good and people never like to play against them because if you dont go first on them they disengage and you have to engage them again. If the battalion improves these weak units somehow we might give them more play. im trying to see something positive here.

The Ven Brecht's battalion is 580 points. If they get the ambush ability and mayb some boosted stuff it could be nice to drop the whole battalion on a flank.

haha, to be honest i liked it. He got big screentime in the first 2 books and it cleared the long time rumours of the elven scum goddess who used my poor bretonnia's to screen them as a living screen for the woodies. But i loved the actuel story around him and the desperation of the bretonnia's. I wasnt that big into gilles but for louen it felt good to get this screentime and a heroic ending;)

atleast my Louen got a fitting ending there. Sadly Jerod never came back from the haven

idoneth working together with chaos to confront morathi or mayb some bigger thing we dont know

page 92 - 95 is battletome rules.. could it be that in these 3 pages there is something huge?

It sure is if the whole battalion can deepstrike together as 1 drop it lowers drop and let you deepstrike a lot of units without needing 1 for every 2. And scoins of the storm is pretty bad anyway with the -1 to hit. There is some potential here. And the gryphounds can be pretty anoying to handle even tho internet gives them zero credit. edit: also dont forget this battalion finely brings together some (weak) synergies like the gryphounds combo with a lord veritant for the better dispel and the gryphound alarm function for some reactive shooting. I can understand why these units are together. Sadly its hard to pull of but i can see stuff here

this i like a lot!. cause it makes an army fitting better in the theme. Looks great on the table and makes sense

Its all anvils of the heldenhammer i think! I kind of hoped my celestial warbringers would make an entrance for once. But glad we got something! Hope its some cool new battalion stuff

I hope this isnt the thing to be honest. I would love for GW to keep thinking out of the box with stuff they bring out. Els we get again a generic tolken inspired high elf dude who is probly acting like a snob and fighting like a 1 men army. Personally im done with that. Loves the cows for the diversity of it.

I love ulgu aswell but my lord celestant on foot wants his damn sword back. He used to be big talk... killing a mawcrusha in one blow or some unlucky khorne bloodthirster. And now he lost it. Dude is super unhappy with al sigmars weapons.. rip judgement sword. i wonder if broken realms gives new battalions Or artifacs. Would shape up the meta again probly.

Super nice review! loved it and made me look better into the SONS

i feel like retreat and charge is HUGE! my main opponent for a long time is a stalliarch lords bonereaper army that plays a lot on charge, retreat to another unit/objective and does less damage doing that then Trolls so i see some potential there atleast.

super true, cause paladin damage isnt great these days

I feel like khorne just got it bad against 2 shooting guys. If he had included be lakor he had a field day;). as for sce i had succes with my skyborne slayer list against a pretty strong ko competitive list and i recon our one drop list nukes the ko list out of the window. Lord ordinator with ballista is great against ko aswell. To beat them you got to field 2/3 units that can bring the hurt like longstrikes/ ballista,s or a late game prime(he dies after like always to).

10 dudes with 6 glaves and 4 starsouls. its super random. If the starsoul maces flop with rolling a 1 it does nothing. And the glaves need 6 to hit and then a wounding roll and a failed armoursave. And then its swingy with a d6. Its hard 5 judicators with bows doing around 2 damage vs a 4+ save and judicators with xbows 3 ex the special bow. my 2x5 with xbows doing around 6 damage average against a unit with a 4+ save. without using the special xbow. So that helps.

that would mean that a unit of 10 with gavriel surecharges is a good combination to kill one of the gargants.

so how do we feel about taking down 1 of the gargants. Ive testing around with protectors but it doenst look very reliable and an unit of 10 isnt enough. So im looking at 15 atleast over 2 rounds of combat with Lucky 6's. Raptors mayb?

i playtested a unit of 10 protectors against the big new gargants. It doenst look good. i feel we do need 15 atleast to charge in with rerolls of 1 to try and take one down in 2 turns.

i like it. my biggest worry is still objective play. Since there are a lot of senario''s where we have to protect 3 and try to get a fourth. The kraken eater does only count as 1 model for allies outside of SOB. It means we still keep our biggest weakness trying to control the objective part.

I m kind of hoping for a King release. These boiz needs there leader

For an example, the skaven battalion "Congregation of Filth" has a unit entry of a "Plague priest on plague furnace". Here the sub-heading is "on plague furnace". And it can't be ignored This is the same for skyborne slayers, it states Lord celestant. That is the full name. There is no sub-heading cause the full name is described. Heck it even came with a battlebox. It states : Unless it included in the entry for the unit. On both casus the full name is described. I feel like we be rule bending to our advantage here. And going with a lord celestant on stardrake cause the unit entry is lord celestant and we want it to be any lord celestant is kind of lame. With battalions in our battletome these discussions are fixed but now we be talking about a very old battalion and we know the intention of that battalion. That intention didnt change with the new wording.

Yeah its still like this. The unit lord celestant is the one on foot.