Icegoat

Has anyones noticed how big these aelfs are 8 foot if we are going by them next to the freeguild or the freeguild models are now so undersized as to make them hobbits. Either way this aelves are big.

I think the handbook just runs out of ideas and repeats itself being released year on year. In the old days I had the big red warhammer fantasy book and that was the rules for many a year. Army points only changed when the army book did and anything extra was maybe in white dwarf but wasnt really real. The constant rule erratas and faqs and handbooks means people are left chasing this golden unbeatable army that they will never truly get as it will either be nerfed the rules will change or someone's new army will beat it. It's not the best. Also they keep trying to make stuff up for open play when it's so unneeded people playing open play games are making much more exciting and fun game scenarios than any in the handbook.

I think maybe Aos just isn't as brutal and as dark as 40k or warhammer fantasy and that is quite a shame. Chaos as a culture and society would be absolutely brutal to live in. If followed through to it's natural end it could go to some very dark places indeed but instead it seems all the different tribes people come together and they all hug each other round the camp fire after killing the bad sigmarines and orcs it is slightly odd. Surely in reality they would all be mega racist misogynistic madmen who chop up anyone they meet. And yet get a guy on horse to lead them and they all living in a nice tribe. And these are the evil guys.

I know this might sound rude but I consider tga the pre eminent aos forum on the internet. It's a well moderated site with many welcoming people and from what I can tell it seems to have never had a female poster or member. Please correct me if I'm wrong but I've never seen a lady on here.

I think you raise what is the most obvious point that gw has to ignore unfortunately to increase diversity. Stormcast and chaos warriors are blessed divine warriors of the gods. Aelves are immortal beings that have always been stronger than an average human and always fought as a mixture of both sexes but the divide between an average female human and an average Male is easily noted. And I'm saying average because obviously they are millions of women stronger than millions of men. Freeguild peasant regiments made up of men and women I guess could be a thing but they ignore thousands of years actual human warfare up to and including our modern era.

All model diversity is actually great the problem is I've shown countless people over the years warhammer models and the warhammer hobby and no matter how much convincing and persuasion I've only ever been able to get a few white Male friends to play or even be slightly interested. I can say honestly say that isnt because there wasnt enough female/ethnic warrior armies. It seems to be the actual gameplay and game sadly that puts most people off rather than the miniatures. As for diversity on gws part I mean there are multiple aos armies with female models now and a models ethnicity is decided mainly by its painter so I think they are very much headed in the right direction. Not sure if it will gain them huge followings in markets they dont already have a share in though.

I think the forge world range not embedded into an army are out of production and finished rules wise. The chaos dwarf featured in war cry leads me to believe that's all there is and the race of chaos dwarfs as a conceptualized army is dead.

The ironweld arsenal is mentioned as having cannonballs in the brand new lumineth book. This can only mean we are going to be getting an ironweld arsenal army in the near future. I'm expecting cannons, armoured gunners and cogforts of some sort for sure. Probably by next year.

Stormcast will I'm sure have another 20 kits released when aos3 comes out. Like it's a little crazy stormcast have more units than fyreslayers, idoneth, lumineth and kharadron combined. But sigmar needs to be opening dem chambers. I mean I'm truly not sure where they would go. It's either crazy armour with bigger hammers and bigger everything. Or they do realm/chapter specific stormcast and really go the 40k space marine chapter route.

Manfred is a thousand times a greater character than any of deaths new leaders. Katakros is boring all the nighthaunt are very cliche. I can see lady olynder bloom into a great character but Manfred is better than them all. The end times really were the making of him and his role in the final book is delicous to behold. I hope one day soon he gets his due.

It precisely says only one dice roll can be made per wound. Only one dice roll. This has just destroyed my entire nurgle army.

Wut this rule is terrible. Disgustingly resilient is destroyed now. So many abilities have been destroyed by this. Crazy. I bet petrifiex still keep their 3+ though. Wow. Makes sense why putrid blughtkings are cheaper they just list half their resilience

Grot shootas

I'm very happy with the AOS lore the aos world and the places it can go. The new lumineth book shows gw have very long term plans to read like one of the very early books a lot of stuff hinted alluded to but no model rules yet. Much more to come. Very exciting. But the state of order humans as a faction is a massive low point. One model in 5 years. One discontinued model at that. Order Humans have infinite possibilities in AOS but we just got out third aelf army instead .

The realms are still hollow at the moment. Aos is basically 40k but it's missing the entire imperium save the space marines. Yes you have your weird wizard elves and your fire dwarves but the cities of sigmar are clearly but a shadow of what should be civilisation. Azyr is an entire realm of humanity and apparently still a few aelfs and duardin though the list of those latter two races will eventually I believe be culled I to nothingness. And yet we have seen nothing. Weve seen chaos through a thousand different prisms cultures and beliefs and yet the entirety of normal order humanity as represented in AOS in the tabletop is still the best selling line of old german, feather toting moustache boys from an entirely different era and planet. I mean sure maybe sigmars religion causes people to dress in puffy shirts and grow strange facial hair. But the lore is showing me a game the tabletop does not represent. Until this problem is resolved any and all grand alliance order units are ripe for the chop at any moment. This new gh I think will prove it.

Its want to keep selling those models but not elaborate or update the rules and eventually phase them out completely

Soul bound proves as well cities will be very very different in the near future. Every class and character in that book has a model available right now on the gw website expect the human sigmar warpriest. It's not long before order humans stop existing in AOS.

I'll quote you on that in a year and we shall see. It's almost certain giving the new lumineth tome that cities will not be around much longer.

Rumour pic is the beastgrave dok warband.

Without the grand alliances every old faction and every bit of lore since about 2019 has become a retcon or just worthless. Aos seems to get smaller and smaller everyday. Do white lions actually exist in the mortal realms? I have multiple pieces of fiction that say they do. Do freeguild knights? Multiple stories mention them. All the mercenary companies have now ceased to be. No cannons for anyone now. GW seem intent on purging the lines down to small factions with 6 kits each. Well apart from stormcast of course. Sons of behemat is a two kit army. This is clearly the future but it's taken away so much freedom the game used to have.

The idoneth can only be a desperate coalition with the lumineth. But the lumineth can be good friends with quite a few and yet lumineth can only ally with idoneth in their own battle tome? That actually makes no sense

I'm loving the team play I'm imagining the freeguild captain approaching a mega boss and lady olynder to team up against some rats with high opinions of themselves.

Well a big thing lately is narrative campaigns and creating a story through linked games. And when one guy can just say All my army was magically healed back to life it does detract somewhat. The aos rpg will have the same problem. Anyone playing as a stormcast never dies. The fyreslayers not so lucky. I mean spoiler alert but I think everyone thought the end of that everchosen book with katakros was a way big cop out. I get the big gods and demons never die. That's fine. Always been the case. But when every single liberator and ballista crew can all just be resurrected it is a hollow experience. I mean gw are never going to make a zombie unit of too many reforged stormcast so it's just always invincible supermen vs thing about to get killed.

The more new factions released the larger the world becomes but also the amount of area chaos actually claims must surely get smaller. How much of the teclis nations is claimed by chaos cos that's half of hysh they dont have at least. Chaos is competing with grots, orruks, ogors, giant order cities, advanced aelves, the entirety of the undead which would never stop expanding, sky dwarves, fire dwarves, sea aelves, forest spirits and each other and an army of golden giant warriors designed and used specifically to kill them who are immortal. This idea they still rule 95% of the realms is starting to sound pretty foolish to me.

Well the cities of sigmar forces are far more out of stock than most of the new order factions so unless they purposefully only make one unit of freeguild for every 10 fyreslayers I think it's safe to assume what gets purchased more. Also I know about of many cities of sigmar collectors. The vast array of units make it very attractive. All the new factions are two or three infantry one monster one cavalry armies. It gets old. Gw are mad to still not have a human faction out and it can only because of how well the current ones sell otherwise they would for sure try something new. See every aos army released. Elves dead? Idoneth and lumineth. Dwarves old hat? Fyrelsayers and khatadeon. Skeletons clogging the shelves? Ossiarchs and nighthaunt. Its clear the old empire models dont have this problem.