Deep Thinkers

[WAAAGHdogg15]

Apologies if this has been answered elsewhere or is common knowledge, a search of the site didn't throw anything up.

Lumineth Realmlords ability "Deep Thinkers" allows a spell to be automatically cast with a casting roll of 9. The spell can still be unbound, but it doesn't say anything about modifying that roll of 9. I.e. if I am Zaitrec (+1 to cast) or standing next to arcane terrain etc, can I modify this automatic "roll" to make it higher? Can it be modified down by opponents' abilities or is it always just 9?

[Ejecutor]

9 minutes ago, WAAAGHdogg15 said:

Apologies if this has been answered elsewhere or is common knowledge, a search of the site didn't throw anything up.

Lumineth Realmlords ability "Deep Thinkers" allows a spell to be automatically cast with a casting roll of 9. The spell can still be unbound, but it doesn't say anything about modifying that roll of 9. I.e. if I am Zaitrec (+1 to cast) or standing next to arcane terrain etc, can I modify this automatic "roll" to make it higher? Can it be modified down by opponents' abilities or is it always just 9?

According to the BT FAQs:
 

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Q: Can a Lumineth Realm-lords Wizard use their ‘Deep Thinkers’ ability to automatically cast a spell that has a casting value of 10 or higher (such as ‘Merciless Blizzard’)?
A: No.

So no, it cannot be modified. Otherwhise the answer would point to value changes rather than being a plain no.

[WAAAGHdogg15]

It's not completely clear though is it? It clearly denies LRL the ability to cast a spell of higher value than 9, but what if I wanted to cast, for example, Arcane Bolt - casting value 5? I'm modifying the roll to a 10 or higher but I'm not casting a spell that has a casting value of 10 or higher, so I'm in line with the FAQ, right?

I'm not saying this is correct, but it is a legitimate interpretation of the FAQ, no?

[Beliman]

7 hours ago, WAAAGHdogg15 said:

Apologies if this has been answered elsewhere or is common knowledge, a search of the site didn't throw anything up.

Lumineth Realmlords ability "Deep Thinkers" allows a spell to be automatically cast with a casting roll of 9. The spell can still be unbound, but it doesn't say anything about modifying that roll of 9. I.e. if I am Zaitrec (+1 to cast) or standing next to arcane terrain etc, can I modify this automatic "roll" to make it higher? Can it be modified down by opponents' abilities or is it always just 9?

Unmodified casting roll is after re-rolls but before modifiers (Core Rules 1.5.5).
Deep Thinkers ability is not an unmodified roll, it's the final result of the casting roll. The result is 9.