Chumphammer Posted June 28, 2021 Author Share Posted June 28, 2021 Khelt Nar 4 drop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncannieryames Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 As my first foray into version 3.0 going to try the list below Allegiance: Daughters of Khaine- Temple: Khelt Nar- Mortal Realm: Aqshy- Grand Strategy: Pillars of Belief- Triumphs: IndomitableLeadersMorathi-Khaine (330) in Command Entourage- Lore of Shadows: MindrazorThe Shadow Queen (330) in Command EntourageHag Queen on Cauldron of Blood (255) in Battle Regiment- General- Command Trait: The Circling Flock- Artefact: Gaisa's Falx- Prayer: Blessing of Khaine- Prayer: Martyr's SacrificeHag Queen (105) in Battle Regiment- Universal Prayer Scripture: Curse- Prayer: Catechism of MurderHag Queen (105) in Command Entourage- Universal Prayer Scripture: Curse- Prayer: Sacrament of BloodBattleline10 x Sisters of Slaughter (135) in Battle Regiment- Barbed Whips and Sacrificial Knives10 x Sisters of Slaughter (135) in Battle Regiment- Barbed Whips and Sacrificial Knives20 x Witch Aelves (240) in Battle Regiment- Sacrificial Knives and Blade Bucklers- Reinforced x 1Units5 x Doomfire Warlocks (140) in Battle Regiment- Spell1: Lore of Shadows: None5 x Doomfire Warlocks (140) in Battle Regiment- Spell1: Lore of Shadows: NoneEndless Spells & InvocationsHeart of Fury (55)The Burning Head (20)Core BattalionsBattle RegimentCommand Entourage - MagnificentAdditional EnhancementsPrayerTotal: 1990 / 2000Reinforced Units: 1 / 4Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 101 Using Khet for the Strat and Command trait more then anything else. Having a unit of witch elves with shields, prayer and the start can really do alot of mortal wounds back at a unit if they swing at them. The unit of Harpies is just nice to have in a back pocket. army is at 4 drops, going hard on the prayer options. Curse looks really good on paper if you can get it off and doesn't require melee hits so the doom fires can trigger it as well. The shortest range is an issue which is why i gave it to two different priest, and heavily debated giving it to the 3rd. the buff to mystic shield means you can have one of the doomfire's attempt to cast it each turn and probably get some use out of it. Also allows one of them to run without needing to stay close to the cauldron and still keep that 4+ save any thoughts or obvious issues I'm missing? once I get some games in with it ill post with what I learn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milano Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 I have some AoS2.0 farewell games this weekend. Was planning to give Khelt Nar a try. Can I retreat run and charge with the Khelt Nar ability (AoS 2.0)? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chumphammer Posted July 9, 2021 Author Share Posted July 9, 2021 4 hours ago, Milano said: I have some AoS2.0 farewell games this weekend. Was planning to give Khelt Nar a try. Can I retreat run and charge with the Khelt Nar ability (AoS 2.0)? Thanks! In 2.0 I think you can, as you could run in a retreat. 3.0 you can only retreat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milano Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Chumphammer said: In 2.0 I think you can, as you could run in a retreat. 3.0 you can only retreat Thanks Chump. Yes for 3.0 it’s ruled very precisely (no), but for AoS2 I would also say yes. My argument would be: Run can be part of a retreat mechanic. And Khelt Nar allows a retreat and charge. Ok, enough of my obsolete AoS2 questions. After this weekend I will join you all in the exciting 3.0. ruleset 😃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncannieryames Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 I played 2 games with the list posted above this last weekend. The doomfire warlocks did great both games, since alot of people seem to be taking more min sized units they have enough firepower between ranged and melee to remove if not cripple enemy units. And being able to hold an arcane bolt to the start of the fight phase is nice. With all out attack making there 4+ to hit less of an issue too. The invocation did alot of work. If it's well placed against 2 damage weapons it just feels so great. Curse also put in quite a bit of work. With the amount of dice we throw out it racks up quite a few mortals. Which leads me to the last point is, our lack of rend hurts. With all out defence exsistence having no rend feels even worse then it did before. Which is part of why stuff like curse and the doomfires felt so useful. Mind Razer of course is great but it's still a spell so it's hard to rely on it being there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chumphammer Posted July 12, 2021 Author Share Posted July 12, 2021 Heart of Fury is probably our most useful tool atm with the rework Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaskier Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 (edited) On 6/29/2021 at 7:45 AM, Chumphammer said: Khelt Nar 4 drop. I'm going to be running something very similar to this at my next tournament, mine will be a 2 drop (only Battle Regiment) and possibly subbing out the unit of 5 Blood Stalkers for 10 Witch Aelves/Sisters of Slaughter and change for a triumph or endless spell - but only if I can't get all 15 Blood Stalkers painted. I'm not convinced either way on unique characters taking spells from the universal spell lore or I'd probably be doing the same as you with taking the Entourage for Levitate. I used to pretty much exclusively run Hagg Narr at events, but retreat and charge is such a powerful ability - particularly in this type of list - that I'm much more excited for Khelt Nar than the classic Cauldronhammer style right now. Edited July 19, 2021 by Jaskier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapca Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 On 7/6/2021 at 6:02 AM, Uncannieryames said: Hag Queen on Cauldron of Blood (255) in Battle Regiment- General- Command Trait: The Circling Flock- Artefact: Gaisa's Falx- Prayer: Blessing of Khaine- Prayer: Martyr's SacrificeHag Queen (105) in Battle Regiment- Universal Prayer Scripture: Curse- Prayer: Catechism of MurderHag Queen (105) in Command Entourage- Universal Prayer Scripture: Curse- Prayer: Sacrament of Blood 2 Prayers everywhere? How? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncannieryames Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 If you take an extra enhancement from the core battalion like a command entourage. You can pick prayer which let's all your priest take a second prayer they can still only cast one tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncannieryames Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 I played another 2 games with my list this last weekend vs nurgle and stormcasts. Won both. The fall back and charge helped keep the shadow queen from being stuck In a tarpit vs nurgle. And morathis command ability is very potent after only getting to use one of the two models at a time for so long having both finally feels so good. My witchs bomb did 22 mortal wounds to a unit of plauge bearers that were buffed to have 4 attacks each. With the mortals on 1s to hit, 6s to save and 5+ on death. Felt real good. Every game I've played the warlocks continue to impress me. I might try dropping the 3rd hag queen as I haven't felt like sacrament of blood has been helping much to gain an extra 10 aleves of some variety. ( Dropping the flaming skull as well) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapca Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 On 7/19/2021 at 3:04 PM, Uncannieryames said: f you take an extra enhancement from the core battalion like a command entourage. You can pick prayer which let's all your priest take a second prayer they can still only cast one tho Yes. But you can pick only one prayer right (on one Priest)? You have 3 extra (3 hags, 2x curse, 1x faction) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncannieryames Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Sapca said: Yes. But you can pick only one prayer right (on one Priest)? You have 3 extra (3 hags, 2x curse, 1x faction) I could be wrong but it reads like spell lores where each "prayer" enhancement let's all your priest take an extra not just one. I'll have to double check my book when I get off work tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapca Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, Uncannieryames said: I could be wrong but it reads like spell lores where each "prayer" enhancement let's all your priest take an extra not just one. I'll have to double check my book when I get off work tonight. IT's EACH. This must be best option for us (spells are also each*). Darn. Wow. I automatically had artifact treatment in my head. 1 and that's it. Nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chumphammer Posted July 21, 2021 Author Share Posted July 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Sapca said: IT's EACH. This must be best option for us (spells are also each*). Darn. Wow. I automatically had artifact treatment in my head. 1 and that's it. Nice. Yeah, I went double warlord and hunters of the heartland for my Hagg nar. Not fussed about going 1st choice and the extra prayer options is great as you can stock up on back up heal & Crimson rejuvenation if you need to hammer some healing onto a key piece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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