Keldrek Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 18 hours ago, Rid said: Welcome! if it’s just nighthaunt your interested in them ghb2017 is what you need, all the scrolls are free to download off the gw site. The Mourngul took a knock but he’s still solid and will make a savage addition at 1000pts! He’s more tanky than before but not quite as good offense, I run two in my 2000pts list and they haven’t let me down Thanks! Just to clarify for my understanding though....there's nothing new in Malign Portents or LoN that would be useful? From my understanding GHB2017 only really has the one page on Nighthaunts and that is available on the 1d4chan site. There are no point changes from GHB2016 AFAIK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neck-Romantic Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 I'm expecting the Mourn to either get a FAQ or Warscroll update to the new Etheral ruling... hoping against hope it gets Frightful Touch. Doubt the KoShrouds will get it as all its other rules are up to date, minus the clarification of it bring able to be taken in a LoN army without having to be allied. My main question revolves around how Spirit Hosts and Hexwraiths still have Battleline If: Nighthaunt... but there is no Nighthaunt list in the book ala Soulblight... according to that if you go Nighthaunt Allegiance, what Traits and Artifacts do you use according to LoN? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satteda Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 The Mourgoul warscroll´s is updated now?, no summon, and no 5+ save vs wonds and Mwounds, thats why maybe its 350 pts. (Sorry for my english) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckpmax1108 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 45 minutes ago, Satteda said: The Mourgoul warscroll´s is updated now?, no summon, and no 5+ save vs wonds and Mwounds, thats why maybe its 350 pts. (Sorry for my english) Hmmm? I'm still seeing the old Warscroll infor for the Mourngul. Where did you get this info from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckpmax1108 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 EDIT: Oh, I see what you meant! It lost its save against all types of wounds, and it didn't share the Ethereal rule change, still benefiting positive modifiers. Though Ravening Assault now gives it +1 DMG on a 6+ hit roll (unless this was an older change, I remember this being extra attacks before). Though not sure where the 350 pts is coming from though... Can someone else clarify that this is indeed the most current changes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satteda Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 8 minutes ago, ckpmax1108 said: Hmmm? I'm still seeing the old Warscroll infor for the Mourngul. Where did you get this info from? Forgeworld web and AoS app, delete and download again, its similar but no summon and no save. (I see your post now), the change in points in the app, when you press my battle and profile. Almost all the point are lock but mourngoul isnt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neck-Romantic Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 So lost MWound resist and dropped by 50 points... seeing as you get resists to MWounds in the GHB2k17 list still I think we came out ahead on the Mourn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 mourngul is still a beast, just means you need to make sure youre picking the right fights and getting your heals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsharitt Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Hopefully the Mourngul getting a LoN adjacent warscroll and points change means he'll be getting FAQ'd into the LoN Legions. Either that or GW really wants to keep him out of LoN armies since now he can't even be backdoored in with summoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWilddog Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 23 hours ago, Furuzzolo said: And Black Coach is not an Hero, now? Neither in the legion of nagash nor in the community warscroll builder... Not sure what is going on here with community warscroll builder, the printed LoN book and the printed cards still have the hero keyword on the Black Coach. Wierd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Krell Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Looks like a lot is going on at the GW site regarding death right now... I can't for the life of me understand why KoS dont have the deathly invocation ability ? Cairn wraith is off the site, only to be found in Nighthaunt Tormented Spirits.. hopefully they will be made into a unit instead of a hero, and hopefully som cool heroes will appear in the future... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 prob just repacking with a round base i would imagine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckpmax1108 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 I'm ok with the Cairn Wraith being a hero honestly, we find similar results from Hexwraiths for our kinda-blendy scythe wielding units. The Black Coach not having ethereal and still being in Nighthaunt, confuses me to no end. I don't mind an HP drop on it, as long as it has some form of innate survivability. But being the only corporeal unit in a ghost army is...whut? It being a hero is ok I guess..can't see anything from hurting it being one. Though They seriously need to look at the warscroll for it as 120 is pretty steep to bring that on. Its better to just have 2 Cairn wraiths honestly. Agreeing that the Knight of Shrouds needs something more than what it has. Yes, most of his utility/power come from Malign Portents, but post that event...what now? Should we expect a change to his Warscroll by then? Still having wishful thinking for the Mortis Engine to be a Nighthaunt...or at least do something with the Malignant Keyword Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaritanAnon Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 What is the best Allegiance for Nighthaunt now? Just Nighthaunt from GHB2017, or does something like Legion of Night or Grand Host actually benefit us enough to take them instead? How do artifacts/command traits work with the Knight of Shrouds? Can he even take any in a non-nighthaunt Allegiance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 ^ i dont see why not? KOS isnt a named character imo unless im missing something? started painting mine tonight ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightyzombie Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 5 hours ago, RaritanAnon said: How do artifacts/command traits work with the Knight of Shrouds? Can he even take any in a non-nighthaunt Allegiance? Legions of Nagash allegiance keywords are only granted to warscrolls and battalions chosen from the LoN battletome, which means that the Knight of Shrouds, despite being able to be the general, doesn't gain the keyword for the LoN. As far as I'm aware, this means that the Knight can't take command abilities or artefacts from anything other than GA Death or Nighthaunts allegiances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neck-Romantic Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Picked out the ruins a bit since taking this.. also waiting for a blue Vallejo flourescent glaze to show up in the mail. Debating on doing OSL cuz I like how the sword turned out and the helmet would get wacky fast (bleh pic doesnt do it justice, lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaritanAnon Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Can't decide if this would be stronger with Nighthaunt l or with LoN, so I made two lists. What do you think? First one has the doggos and Hexwraiths ambushing. Allegiance: Legion of Night Necromancer (110) - Lore of the Deathmages: Fading Vigour Knight of Shrouds (120) - General - Trait: Master of the Black Arts Cairn Wraith (60) - Artefact: Curseblade 3 x Spirit Hosts (120) 3 x Spirit Hosts (120) 5 x Hexwraiths (160) 5 x Dire Wolves (60) 5 x Dire Wolves (60) Mortis Engine (180) Total: 990 / 1000 Allies: 0 / 200 Wounds: 74 Or Allegiance: Nighthaunt Necromancer (110) - Lore of the Deathmages: Fading Vigour - Allies Knight of Shrouds (120) - General - Trait: Ruler of the Spirit Hosts Cairn Wraith (60) - Artefact: Midnight Tome 5 x Hexwraiths (160) 5 x Hexwraiths (160) 3 x Spirit Hosts (120) 6 x Spirit Hosts (240) Total: 970 / 1000 Allies: 110 / 200 Wounds: 61 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashtyn Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 3 hours ago, RaritanAnon said: Can't decide if this would be stronger with Nighthaunt l or with LoN, so I made two lists. What do you think? First one has the doggos and Hexwraiths ambushing. Allegiance: Legion of Night Necromancer (110) - Lore of the Deathmages: Fading Vigour Knight of Shrouds (120) - General - Trait: Master of the Black Arts Cairn Wraith (60) - Artefact: Curseblade 3 x Spirit Hosts (120) 3 x Spirit Hosts (120) 5 x Hexwraiths (160) 5 x Dire Wolves (60) 5 x Dire Wolves (60) Mortis Engine (180) Total: 990 / 1000 Allies: 0 / 200 Wounds: 74 Or Allegiance: Nighthaunt Necromancer (110) - Lore of the Deathmages: Fading Vigour - Allies Knight of Shrouds (120) - General - Trait: Ruler of the Spirit Hosts Cairn Wraith (60) - Artefact: Midnight Tome 5 x Hexwraiths (160) 5 x Hexwraiths (160) 3 x Spirit Hosts (120) 6 x Spirit Hosts (240) Total: 970 / 1000 Allies: 110 / 200 Wounds: 61 If you want grave markers and lores of the dead you have to run a LoN army. It forces you to take different battleline but it adds a lot more regen and synergy to the spirit hosts and hexwraiths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy saturday Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 3 hours ago, RaritanAnon said: Can't decide if this would be stronger with Nighthaunt l or with LoN, so I made two lists. What do you think? First one has the doggos and Hexwraiths ambushing. Allegiance: Legion of Night Necromancer (110) - Lore of the Deathmages: Fading Vigour Knight of Shrouds (120) - General - Trait: Master of the Black Arts Cairn Wraith (60) - Artefact: Curseblade 3 x Spirit Hosts (120) 3 x Spirit Hosts (120) 5 x Hexwraiths (160) 5 x Dire Wolves (60) 5 x Dire Wolves (60) Mortis Engine (180) Total: 990 / 1000 Allies: 0 / 200 Wounds: 74 Or Allegiance: Nighthaunt Necromancer (110) - Lore of the Deathmages: Fading Vigour - Allies Knight of Shrouds (120) - General - Trait: Ruler of the Spirit Hosts Cairn Wraith (60) - Artefact: Midnight Tome 5 x Hexwraiths (160) 5 x Hexwraiths (160) 3 x Spirit Hosts (120) 6 x Spirit Hosts (240) Total: 970 / 1000 Allies: 110 / 200 Wounds: 61 Edited 2 hours ago by RaritanAnon You cannot take a necromancer in nighthaunt allegiance. If you want a wizard, put a vampire lord instead. However, you cannot get a magic from lores of the dead with NH allegiance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 bit more done on my KoS today ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neck-Romantic Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 New question; with new Ethereal wording; does the GHB2K17 command trait that adds +1 to save not work with any of our Haunts minus the Mourn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahn-ket Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 The artefacts works as a Change of a characteristic and ist not an modifier like mytic shields or cover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 ^ this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaritanAnon Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 You think a Mourngul is still worth taking at 1k, with the nerf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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