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4 hours ago, Chikout said:

News time! New shadespire warbands go up for pre-order on April 7th. Maybe that means we will get season 2 soon.

Awesome ! I can't wait to get the little Flesh hound 

BTW, Season 2 should start around June, because the whole Stormcast vs Nighthaunt business. 

Oh, and GW posted this picture on FB about the end of Dread Solstice and a war that had just began ...

... Nighthaunt vs Stormcast ? WHAT A COINCIDENCE 

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1 hour ago, sandlemad said:

My French is rusty but the text say some stuff about 'the spirits of the ancestors of the Idoneth being invoked' and about the Avatar being an 'idealised incarnation of that lost god'. So regardless of if the Idoneth worship or draw upon Mathlann, this appears to confirm that he's either dead of disappeared, like Khaine.

Yes that's what the text means.

 I think all the old Elve gods (inc. Mathlann) are very dead, but unlike Khaine (because of Morathi), their old powers can be drawn upon, given times, rituals and sufficient worship.

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A @Gaz Taylor and @Turgol you seem the think that Malign portents will lead to the escape of Slaanesh (because hints in the fluff and rumors on Twitter, right ?)

I must say I can't really see that happends : Malign portents will lead to a cataclysm indeed, but that is the completion of Nagash's great work of rebuilding the black PyramidS power syphon using Shysian realmstones*. The Starter set and Souls war novel is apparently Death vs Stormcast centered because of that.

Slaanesh inevitable escape is such a big event, needing at least 3 army releases (Hosts of Slaanehs, Shadowkin, Lightkin) - I cannot see it steal the show of Nagash's great work (at least this year, we'll see the transition with the new Fate of Slaanesh narrative arc after MP, in 2019). 

Of course I may be wrong - I should re-read the Aelves fluff ; with their souls stealing business, they are by all mean linked to Nagash business in this way at least. 

I can't wait to read about Teclis in the Idoneth Deepkin BT !!

*Of course, one of the side effect of the ritual's completion may be Slaanesh's escape. In fact, IMO Slaanesh let himself trapped (fooling Tzeentch, Khorne and the Aelves gods in the process) because he/she/it "liked" that (like Fulgrim style in Horus Heresy). 

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4 minutes ago, LLV said:

Thanks. Time will tell.

There are actually a few extra bits that I was asked not to say yet which I'll post when im allowed. New stormcast related stuff and the name of AoS phase 2.

TY too !

And please, at least a hint  

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14 minutes ago, LLV said:

Here's the rumour engine for the new death unit:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/02/06/rumour-engine-6th-february-2018/

Yeah, when the Knight of Shrouds came out we thought this RE was from his cloak - it's not the case. Good spot. 

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4 minutes ago, PJetski said:

Why introduce Command Points/Stratagems when the Malign Portents are the same thing but better?

The CP/S system for AOS2.0 may just be a generalization of the MP system, but working with the general instead of the Harbingers.

I'm sure the changes won't be to drastic.

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6 minutes ago, LLV said:

(...)

- New stormcasts

- New ghosts - battletome ''p**s off ghosts''

- Starter set June 30th

(...)

I've read the exact same thing on French warfo. So kinda trusting that. And surely Rob & Co. still have connexions inside GW  

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2 hours ago, Turgol said:

People citing Atia as rumour source should know that she has no insider knowledge. With Temoulon gone we are pretty much dry on proven sources that are active. So past malignants v SCE it is all very much speculation. That being said I would bet on a Khorne december-January release, given the absence of a World Eaters faction. It would have little impact on AoS (updated Hounds, maybe some new daemons).

Yeah  ... That's why I said I was a bit sad she was under NDA or whatever. That being said, I'm sure she still have info like back in good ol' time. She's just not telling on WoS, only a cryptic hint here and there (just like above about Fulgrim).

Also, the Emperor's Children aren't a true faction either yet, just like the World Eater. By releasing EC first, GW can follow with a proper Slaanesh Daemons full release and a "Hosts Of Slaanesh" Battletome (which isn't really possible for Khorne, because Khorne Bloodbound and Blades Of Khorne), so big impact for AOS like Disciples of Tzeentch and Maggotkin. 

About the sources, there is in fact some very active and reliable sources around here : 

- French Wargame Studio on YouTube (100% correct so far, since Autumn 2017 IIRC) and other sources on Warhammer forum (you need to speak French though  ) those may or may not be linked to Temouloun / Heachi. 

- Thebiggesthat : right about GUO, Nurgle Beast and Blightlords - now announcing Fulgrim and AOS Keeper on Dakka Dakka for November.

- Moonstone, and other good souls on TGA.

- Sometimes voices on FB, 4Chan, B&C (like Atia), etc.

But I agree that the days of Harry and Sad Panda (RIP), and now Lady Atia and Haechi, seems long gone. Still glad we have WarCom. 

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Just now, Bloodmaster said:

See Tzeentch and Nurgle for references: 40k near the end of the year, followed by demons and AoS spilling over to the next year.

Yeah, I hope we get that again for Slaanesh. Note that apparently Nurgle was due Summer 2017 (when Blightwar came out), so more or less 2 months after Death Guard (but then GW got the technical / energy problems in Nottingham we know about).

So the "end of the year window" may be a coincidence, but surely the "40k Legion + Daemon Primarch followed closely by AOS Battletome + Greater Daemon release" pattern seems solid. As a Chaos player I cannot wait anyway. 

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Just now, Barkanaut said:

Lol xenos players in denial. There not been a single peep about any xenos rumors other than Kroot of all things and that might take a year or a little more even if its true. Other than that zero chatter. If people think they are getting anything but power armor and imperial releases (with a side of demons) for the next eternity your deluded. There's been tons and tons of primarch rumors though. Also power armor. Everyone wants more of that lolol. If GW shows mercy upon you expect like... one model like the Necrons. Bow at their benevolence. 

I quit 40k for a reason. 

Well, even if 40k news aren't really AOS release schedule rumors, it impacts it, so let's just add that there 2 Xenos release rumored : 

1. Gorkamorak summer 2018 (cf. new Buggy wheel Rumor engine).

2. Codex Orks end of the year 2018. 

It comes from several sources, notably a very reliable French rumormonger. 

NB : a good part of this summer should be dedicated to AOS 2.0, i.e. New main book, starter set, Nighthaunt, Stormcast, maybe new scenery (Stormkeep WHEN???). 

And Souls War by Josh Reynolds is out 10th July. 

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13 minutes ago, Bloodmaster said:

"You don't want to do that conversion right now. ^^" - Atia. So Fulgrim's the next, with AoS Slaanesh in January 2019

Thebiggesthat on Dakka Dakka said Fulgrim and Keeper of Secrets end of the year 2018, so maybe even sooner !

(This guy was right about GUO, new beast and blight lord)

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3 minutes ago, Gecktron said:

There was a Thread on Bolter and Chainsword were someone asked for the size of Morathi, as he planned on turning her into a Fulgrim model.
Atia just answered that he should start that project right now.

Right ! I always forgot to check Battle Bunny and B&C instead of War of Sigmar when looking for Lady Atia's posts  I miss her full rumors days haha

So that'd make, after Nighthaunt and Stormcast Wizard / Artillery this summer, Slaanesh end 2018. Noïce. 

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6 minutes ago, Chikout said:

Well if battletome Malignants is next, just wanted to say that I called it 2 months ago!!! (Though this may  be a little early for gloating).

Very curious to see how many kits they get. A dual build troop choice which will look exactly like that Shadespire card, a multibuild black coach kit and .....? One more kit would put them in line with daughters of Khaine, sylvaneth etc.

And a new monster / hero like the soul-stealing Ghast described here : https://malignportents.com/story/lightning-in-a-bottle/ Maybe

P.-S. ; I think what @LLV meant was a new Nighthaunt Battletome, Malignant being only the "race" keyword.

44 minutes ago, Bloodmaster said:

The hanged Dementor probably will be a special version of the "fleshy" cairn wraith, think of it more in the lines of the Shadespire Skeletons then a hint for a new additional unit.

And concerning the Stater Set you repeatedly mention: don't think of the two shown cards as indicators for a new AoS Starter Box, but only as hints for Shadespire. It is quite possible that someone saw the new Shadespire Season Opener Box and thought of it as a new AoS Starter. The correlation between Shadespire S1 and the Starter Box does not mean that each SSP Season Box (if there will be one each time) will match a new AoS Starter. the S1 Box had SE and Khorne in ti, simply because both are the poster boys respectively the starring villains during the time S1 came out. It was a marketing decision, nothing more. 

Yeah ! I have no inside info of course, it's just (educated?) guesses based on what we already have, that is : 

 - As you rightly said, each Shadespire warband is linked to an existing baseline unit (Liberator, Skeletons Warriors, etc.). So the Wraiths / Dementor must be a new baseline unit (?) for Nighthaunt. 

- Regarding the 8 existing war bands, 3 are form Starter set units, so the poster boys. But with MP, the new logo, etc. I'm sure the new poster-bad-boy will be Death, hence why Nighthaunt may be as rumored in the new starter set. If indeed we get a new "true" starter set (≠ Forgebane or Blightwar).

- That's why I think will get 1. one multi-build Dementor / fleshy arms wraiths kit, 2. one Shadespire warband based on them (as GW released an Easy to build kit form Primaris / Death guard with Dark imperium with different sculpt), and 3. one Dementor / fleshy arms wraiths "push-fit" kit, if indeed the new Starter set comes with a dedicated sculpts (≠ Forgebane or Blightwar).

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15 minutes ago, Still-young said:

I think there was a warhammer tv video where one of the guys accidentally let slip about Slaanesh being soonish. Plus that Khorne rumour may well be nonsense. 

I also think Lady Atia said Slaanesh before Khorne, but I cannot find where. 

There is a rumor on Dakka Dakka about the new Keeper Of Secrets (plastic) being due for November (he of course won't be released alone), by the guy that teased the new GUO in summer 2017. 

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4 hours ago, LLV said:

Not guessing the battletome is coming with a new black coach and new unit that can be seen in the knight of shrouds artwork. Also coming is the AoS version of the old warhammer battle magic which will add a new dimension to magic in AoS games 

I'm sure pic related will be a new "troops" type for the Nighthaunt army, maybe dual built, one like cairn wraith with "fleshy" army, one hanged Dementor ...

We'll probably get a new plastic kit, a Shadespire warband, and maybe a unique unit for the starter set

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3 hours ago, Chikout said:

Looking at that video I count. 

Foot guys (dual build?)

Archers (dual build?)

Eels (dual build!)

Big eels with two riders (dual build?)

Big turtle (4 builds apparently) 

Big water cloak guy (dual build apparently )

Sea horse guy

Big helmet pilot light guy

Octopus bodyguard lady

Jumping lady

Bald staff guy.

Scenery.

That is eleven kits so far. GW have confirmed there is more we haven't seen yet.

Guess that 8 kit rumour was false. What an amazing release. This will be the army I spend the next two years building and painting for sure.

Yeah ! And each unit are apparently multiple build ; I count 3 eels types, 2 sharks types, and there will be apparently 4 turtles types too...

I love them. I totally love them. 

 

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24 minutes ago, PJetski said:

I would be shocked, impressed, and disappointed if it was only a Shadespire warband and not a full chamber release

Remember how the first WHU core set mirrored the first Starter set in terms of content ?

I'm sure the two new WHU war bands (that is, Ghosts and new SCE) will be of the same factions of the two new armies in the new Starter set. 

GREAT

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OKAY OMG 

- Idoneth Deepkin : awesome. Huge range. Like, really huge. I just need to see the Battletome cover <3

- Spiky death magic sphere and Storm Of Magic second edition : nice and unexpected !

- Death rise : f*ck yeah, new nighthaunt black coach, so as rumored : new Nighthaunt* army + Battletome !

- New Warhammer Underworlds : so good to know, I love those war bands ....

AND LOOKING AT THE CARD : 

- NEW STORMCAST WIZARDS UNIT

- NEW NIGHTHAUNT GHOST

---> Starter set CONFIRMED ; and the next Shadespire (or the like) set will apparently have those two new factions. 

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1 hour ago, Turgol said:

1) Not only safe bet but certainty: Deepkin reveal with miniatures (not certain though if exhibition of the whole range)

2) New starter set announcement and content tease. I don’t think there will be a real reveal of content

3) WH: UW 2 announcement, no reveal of content

100% agree. 

I litterlay set my clock at 1:30 PM just for that. 

From the Las Vegas Open they said they would reveal 3 ou 5 big things ?

Because there is 40k in the ring too, which means something big too for it, like a new army or a Daemon Primarch.

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14 minutes ago, Sheriff said:

My only beef with the new geographic homelands of factions in the new world is that they seem too safe. A good setting should have constant threats from enemy factions based in the same geographic setting (e.g. goblins/dwarfs/skaven in mountains). 

These underwater elfs just own the entire seabed? The Kharadrons have no sky-based enemy factions? No other lava-dwelling factions for the lava-dwarfs? Does ANYTHING live in the woods anymore? 

???

Nowhere it is said that about the ID. They'll surely fight Plague fleet like Gutrot Spume's one, for example. 

The Kharadron avec huuuuge hordes of beasts in the sky against them, it's every page of their Battletome. Plus flying daemons, like Tzeentch ones. And the fleet of the GROTbag scuttlers. 

The Fyreslayers are attacked by fire elemental and skavens, like, every day, and besieged by Bloodbound and such. 

The lands, seas and skies of the Mortal Reams are wayyyyy less safe than even a Death world of the imperium.

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19 minutes ago, ReynakZhen said:

I thought Slaanesh was being held between Hysh and Ulgu?

It's indeed Hyish and Ulgu, in the Hidden Gloaming sub realm...

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7 hours ago, bsharitt said:

Some how I had missed that the deepkin were out of Ghur, I thought they were in the shadow realm too. Or are they from the shadow realm and these one are visiting Ghur? Or maybe there's no misdirect and we're getting an underwater troggoth faction too.

The rumor is that the Deepkin comes form the sunken Island of Idoneth in Hyish. 

But then they were sighted in Ghyran (cf. DoK Battletome) and in Ghur (according to the FB teasing at least).

It's safe to bet they'll have, like every other armies, access to Realmgates (maybe linked to mists and water)

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I'm still really not sure about Mathlann / Manaan / Aislinn influences on the Idoneth.

The original rumor also mentioned Tyrion & Teclis weren't involved with the Deepkin, but then we learn that they are in fact Teclis failed creation.

Just like Daughter Of Khaine are in fact Daughter of

Spoiler

Morathi, because Khaine is truly dead following the End Times

EDIT : I find the Shadespire "add variation to battleline / base units" concept really great, notably for the Blood Warriors and SCE Rangers !!

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17 minutes ago, Imperial said:

Did you mean gtm+0, when say Europe time?

Well It's 12:50 in Switzerland now (same time as Paris), so GMT+1 ?

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Repost from Dakka Dakka if anyone still have hopes for GAMA news

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There is two GW "seminars" today Wednesday, at 9AM and 11AM (so 17:00 and 19:00 in Europe). @Chikout noted that it seems to be "how to business" seminars, not preview seminars.

But they could still shows new boxed game via the event in the Exhibit hall, which opens at 1PM today (so 21:00 in Europe). Same thing tomorrow (same time).

Anyway, GW's preview seminar at Adpeticon is Wednesday March 21, so in exactly 7 days, at 8PM (so around 02:00 in the morning in Europe)  

http://www.cvent.com/events/adepticon-2018/agenda-2a5e372c0c3144058739faec45749733.aspx