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The topic is a bit of a minefield so I’ll stay clear of that part. ive got a bunch of untapped data in though that would likely be helpful in determining lots of things and playtesters are and always have been welcome to reach out and I’ll be happy to work with them for the betterment of the game in general.

It’s an error, that table meant to only show meta.

No not wrong. few reasons- DoK had a more apparent win %. Close to 80%. It was less of the meta though and whilst it likely did cannibalize itself somewhat it wouldn’t have been as much. I have access to more detailed matchup data now than I did during DoK’s Reign. it doesn’t matter more or less-DoK was just as powerful then as Slaanesh now. I was just responding to Rob being surprised it wasn’t higher. I was also doing it off the top my head which is why I said don’t quote me. But most Slaanesh players stay undefeated until G4 or 5 and a higher percentage than I’ve noticed in the past lose to themselves. when I have the time I’ll run the matchup data, but it’s a hard task given the form I receive it in.

https://thehonestwargamer.com/aos-stats-21st-october-2019/

https://twitter.com/HonestWargamer/status/1186922696254377986?s=20

enjoy!

The moment when John realizes he’s been losing to the most powerful army in AoS this whole time was priceless.

Www.thehonestwargamer.com - all the AoS stats, bobo list run downs and a full bobo break down.

So I’ve seen variations on both these lists compete and still no major event podiums. Don’t get me wrong I love Templars and everything you say makes sense, except against DoK .... and certain realms(auto lose in shadow with 6” shooting) ... and total commitment.... There are very good lists out there but there are also very, very good players that have settled on gav bomb being the best tool at their disposal. Your arguements seem like the one I see constantly in mtg from less experienced players thinking ‘their deck’ is something the pro’s missed in their thousands of hours of structured testing. Yes now and again something gets missed but even then it’s usually a fad. im not saying you’re wrong, I’m just pointing out that people are taking the lists you mentioned (I have seen them) and there’s a reason people like Gary P and jack Armstrong are using gav bomb. As someone said- go out there and prove it. They are.

If the gav lists aren’t ‘the best’ I would love to know of some of the better options that you’re talking about. I have seen my fair share of lists and tournament results (probably more than is healthy tbh) and in over 30 main events the only list winning events currently is the Gav bomb.

I feel I should mention - all those people who told John Roy that Castigators were bad - The TOP performing Stormcast list (7th overall) from Facehammer (a large UK competitive tournament) had 9 in there....NINE! Cue Anakin Vader Voice.... "Tell the internet you were right John...You were Riiiiiight"

Guys calm down - its obviously "Zzelbo Elves"

Are you saying that Pheonix Temple now has an unprecendented 87.5% Match Win Percentage and is the most broken army in AoS?

Think khorne came first at NOVA not second

Yeah I hate when people do that. Everyone knows Slaanesh is Drugs and Sex AND Rock n Roll