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The topic is a bit of a minefield so I’ll stay clear of that part. ive got a bunch of untapped data in though that would likely be helpful in determining lots of things and playtesters are and always have been welcome to reach out and I’ll be happy to work with them for the betterment of the game in general.

Www.thehonestwargamer.com - all the AoS stats, bobo list run downs and a full bobo break down.

So I’ve seen variations on both these lists compete and still no major event podiums. Don’t get me wrong I love Templars and everything you say makes sense, except against DoK .... and certain realms(auto lose in shadow with 6” shooting) ... and total commitment.... There are very good lists out there but there are also very, very good players that have settled on gav bomb being the best tool at their disposal. Your arguements seem like the one I see constantly in mtg from less experienced players thinking ‘their deck’ is something the pro’s missed in their thousands of hours of structured testing. Yes now and again something gets missed but even then it’s usually a fad. im not saying you’re wrong, I’m just pointing out that people are taking the lists you mentioned (I have seen them) and there’s a reason people like Gary P and jack Armstrong are using gav bomb. As someone said- go out there and prove it. They are.

If the gav lists aren’t ‘the best’ I would love to know of some of the better options that you’re talking about. I have seen my fair share of lists and tournament results (probably more than is healthy tbh) and in over 30 main events the only list winning events currently is the Gav bomb.

Think khorne came first at NOVA not second

Yeah I hate when people do that. Everyone knows Slaanesh is Drugs and Sex AND Rock n Roll

They were. If you want more 'proof' this was confirmed on WHTV when they did the NH design team and the Stormcast design team interviews. The heralds were modeled after existing line. Specific examples given on show was the Knight of Shrounds on foot was made AFTER the KoS on steed and the ordinator was made AFTER the ballista crew in the soul wars box. The shaman and the warqueen factions as far as model designs go have been 'done' for close to a year at this point.

Hiding in plain sight. Remember the malign portent characters were designed AFTER the main factions

I know Darkoath has been done for a while and I was told Slaanesh was done and likely a Jan/feb drop. I’m thinking with the apparent Darkoath push back we could see them in that slot instead. Exciting times

Nope. I have bee saying moonclan Darkoath/beast of chaos as soon as the soulwars dropped- which I told everyone on here about in March. Granted moonclan and Darkoath a bit obvious from the malign portents but beasts of chaos was so left field no one believed that one when I first wrote it lol only thing I will concede has been a little off is timings- but that’s more due to schedule changes.

Kind of lol- makes a bit more sense now as was originally told Darkoath then Darkoath / beasts of chaos. Source probably saw bits of it all. I know Darkoath is already done. In fact many believe the malign heralds to be precursors to the NH, moonclan etc - it’s actually the other way around. The design elements for those factions were already done. For instance the knight of shroud on steed was done before the malign sorcery one.

Cmon guys, think labyrinth and dark crystal and many other Henson creations of the vein, this embodies that whimsy and AoSifies it. I think it’s great! A nice break from the grim nighthaunt!

Here we go.... first of many! For the comment above, yes all underworld stuff is ETB, but not all moonclan stuff coming will be ETB Also here’s a bone for some... see how similar the spore stuff is on the club to the rumour engine pic....Similar but not the same!

Khorne had some healthy finishes at wargames con https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FdyuFdkvC0OQYe3oK5ghCoH7iTmLP6EO0I2vvMkRIlU/mobilebasic

As I said a long time ago grots and darkoath/ beastmen definitely coming - I just don’t know the timeline anymore ?