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Are we sure there something at LVO this year ? Didn't see any annoucement (Happy New Years TGA)

Nice reveals overall ! Both WFB-era updates and 40k Chaos releases (Jakals and Vashtorr) are very nice. Once again the real flavor came from "side" games (Cawdor rider with cup attached to his hood, and of course the glorious WHU GITZ). For the AOS roadmap : Destruction : guess we are done for AOS 3rd ? Hope for more Moonclan Gitz with the Battletome (regarding rumor engines, just like Seraphon). Order : KO first then Seraphon (with plastic Slaan). Cities could come in Fall 2023 (same timing with year-long teasing like Sister of Battle). Chaos : Going by the Thondia fluff, really hoped to see Morghur. But then, Khorne surely, Slaanesh after. (Chorfs could come in Fall 2023 too but would clash slot wise with Dawnbringers). Death : FEC then OBR. Soublight was the last of second edition and got WD update and Cursed City, so... Regarding rumor engines - mostly for FEC - we shouldn't forget the WHU and more importantly the Warcry roadmap (very surely featuring Khornate and Slaaneshi warbands) running up to spring 2023.

GOOD TO BE BACK ! Off line week appreciation recap : Warcry : Sundered Fate : Both bands are great (the flying dinos and the daemon bird 😍), new scenery (unlike Kill Team Box 2), and still a few Seraphon Rumor engines left. Final score : 11/10 Warhammer Quest Nemesis : Well. New content is always nice. No new models ? Sad, but seen with WHQ : Silver Tower (even if it has bundles). No further expansion ? Sad too (I wanted an Escalation-esque box with more new Explorers). I guess we have WHU and Warcry for great "creativity" sculpts ... Final score 4/10 Underworld Roadmap : Nice ! Pleased to see new Gitz soon, and very intrigued by either the Malerion Aelves, Slaanesh or Legion of the First Prince logo ! Final score : 7/10. Ogors and StD ranges and book : great stuff overall. Final score : 8/10. Battlescroll : guess it's nice ? The rules people will tell. Final score : n/a. BTW that Lord Solar indeed could be easily Freeguild-ized. Or iS fRoM cHaMOn

Well I for one was pretty disappointed with the Warcry Monday reveal, but at least we learned : Chamelons Skinks are not "wild beasts" like Furies and Raptoryx but a true, new Warband (probably with a Kroxigor or Saurus looking at current Rumor engines). There will apparently be new Gnarlwood terrain in the box (and not a reprint of the - admittedly very nice - exact same terrain like Kill team got + an accessory sprue). I still wish we got more news but I guess it'll come closer to the "End November" release slot...

Huge threadomancy but for the wiki's sake : in the end, no, indeed, Greywater Fastness isn't a flying city

GW absolutely must reveal Warcry : Sundered Fate in full tomorrow, right ? We already got a wee teaser with the Skink and the roadmap, they announced the entire WHU : Gnarlwood core set on a "normal" Monday and the new quarterly Kill Team box goes on pre order next week... I guess we are all set right ?

@Chikout One of the BT leaks had the Chaos Warrior command picture and they looked different enough... IIRC people did do some comparisons. But yeah, the Chaos Knights clearly just are an upgrade sprue... Really strange (but explaining why they didn't show the whole unit today !).

Oh man I WISH. But wasn't there a "reboxing of existing warbands" rumor ? BTW, the Stormcast on the top left on this WH+ picture is a conversion or a new model ?

Okay now THAT would be the best thing ever* : my two favorite AOS games - in terms of mood - combined (Warcry and WHQ : Silver Tower). Imagining right now how a starter set for Warcry Season 2 set in a Silver Tower would look like (comparing to the KT : Into The Dark set) : lots of disc-like platforms stacked or interlinked, golden archways, and dark, starlit board with Tzeentchian features. Amazing. But yeah I still think the next season will be set inside the Seraphon Temple Ship. Either it takes off and takes us in space**, or we simply explore its depths in the ruins inside the Gnarlwood.

So, besides the next fives Battletomes we know of, early 2023 should or could be : - Gitz tome with Spiders unit and/or Boss - Season of War : Gallet with Spider-y Incarnate (sorry @Chikout) and maybe scenery. Then sometimes in 2023 : - Cities of Sigmar tome, with new humans Crusaders / Conquisatdors ❤️ - Beast Of Chaos with at least Morghur updated (strongly implied in lore : most recently SoW Thondia) - A "new faction" : Chaos Duardin (strongly implied in lore : most recently Warcry) We also have the next 3 Warcry boxes until Spring 2023, a new season of Underworld (set in Hysh or Chamon given the new logo and the Nethermaze lore ?) and maybe more Cursed City expansions.

My first thought too. 97% Agreed (as it could also be something for Grandfather Nurgle - those berries look pustul-y)

Quick note : do you mean the existing Varanguard kit ? Because Eternus is a stand alone kit (there is a new Mounted Chaos Lord with this release but Eternus is bigger). I like the Ian Miller part of the new StD a lot (Eternus, Chaos Legionnaires and Centaur Marshall), but I have too much stuff to finish in Nurgle's Garden to expand my small StD collection now... And it's a shame about no CoS. Also, are the Soulbound characters just the Explorers from Cursed Cities BUT in the other gender ? I do not like that art style very much, too "bright" and simply looking quite like the base model as @Clan's Cynic said... But happy to see new content for Soulbound that ties with the current narrative in Sysh and Ghur ü

Great ! Well I'll get the Gorechosen even if I don't play WHU (I try to get at least one warband each season to mark my support for the game, great creativity going there lately in terms of models). Looking forward to the new setting ! Re : Monday reveal. If the next Battletomes indeed are 1 new model each, then we know everything until Slaves to Darkness (which we also kinda know everything about) : DoT = Curseling, LRL = new mage, Mawtribes = new hunter, SoB : KING BRODD. I guess we could see something more for MT or SoB (maybe from Warcry). Alternatively : another leaked unit for StD, or indeed something for Cities of Sigmar. Slight hope for the latter, as people asked about WHQ Cursed Cities and CoS (and TOW) at NOVA and GW revealed soon after the Nightwar expansion. So we could very well get a small snippet of something for CoS...

@Whitefang maybe knows more on that subject ? Because Blackstone Fortress had a lot of expansions, 6 at least, some without new models (not counting WD stuff). I'd hope we get at least ONE expansion for Cursed City with new models (mostly new Explorers), following the format of "WHQ : BSF - Escalation"... --- BTW the Nova reveals were great. Nice roadmap, love the Hunter's head (kinda Nurglesque) and oh my man @KingBrodd I'm so happy for you !

Of course, and I know Dawnbringer Crusades are "events". I meant "DawnbringerS", as in, the human Crusaders from the Cities of Sigmar, which we know are getting a facelift. My point are they could be seen as an updated, AOSified faction inside of the whole Cities of Sigmar range(s), just like the Kruleboyzs were a new, AOSified faction inside the whole Orruk Warclans battletome. (And indeed, CoS could have rules for garrison-like AND crusading armies).) But I still hope the next brand "new" or at least imaginatively AOSified faction from the Old World arriving in AOS to be the Chaos Duardins. If we get both them and new Azyrite Humans in 2023, it'd be perfect.

@EccentricCircle and @Chikout Yeah, given all the fluff and references from Warcry and AOS3 publications, I'm quite sure the next brand-new faction is Chaos Duardin : as pointed out it would be a "brand-new" (aka reimagined) Chaos faction (so, first time), and due to the two-year lead on new factions, COVID could have pushed them in spring 2023. That or Dawnbringer, also next year.

I think our lord KB is referring to the Necromunda Monday Reveal occurring tomorrow as per the article... Indeed does Necromunda get many reveals on Mondays

Nice to have confirmation about Nova. Predictions ahead : - 40k : something (better pictures, big boxed set, centerpiece) for either League Of Votann, World Eaters, Imperial Guards. - HH : more resin kits turned into nice plastic kits. - AOS : LRL, DOT battletomes (if they aren't shown sooner), HOPEFULLY the two Destructions ones (new Mega-Gargant variant and Spider Riders would be perfect), maybe a supplement akin to Season of War : Thondia ? I would love something about Cities Of Sigmar but I won't get my hopes up on this front... - WHU : Khornate dudes and, with any luck, more than a simple teaser (model less) of the new Season. As @Nezzhil said, the logo changed again, so it's more than likely we'll get at least a video trailer of some sort (gold trim and stone-like background : CHAMON ?). Strangely, I'm more interested in Warhammer Underworlds than anything else in this preview, even AOS. I guess because, after providing nice alternative sculpts (like Female Liberator) and missing Heroes (like Nurgle Sorcerer), it is now a true laboratory for new ideas and world building (just like WARCRY, whose absence I deeply regret).

HOPE SO Also I hope each of the three big boxes introduces something new, like e.g. Feral Beasts (Seraphon, Ghurish Fauna, etc.) and Catacomb-style play inside the Seraphon temple ship 😍

Yeah, Seraphon in Warcry will have an AOS warscrolls anyway (as per today's article). They could be : Kroak's agents (from the Heart of Ghur Core book lore) Order Warband Feral Seraphon Order Warband Fera Seraphon beasts / thralls (on top of two other warbands) Yeah ! You mean were are the current rules for Feral Seraphon ? It's in the multiplayer Campaign Arc, near the end of the new Core Book.

Their website indicates a GW Reveal seminar Wednesday 31st of August at 7 PM, east coast time...

Very very nice news. Today's Warscrolls are great : Rotmire Creed for my Maggotkin are very interesting with ranged fire power for Diseased Points (and I too guess the German version of the Chaos Legionnary warscroll is the correct one). I was kind of sad not to get a Core Rules abstract in the Heart of Ghur set, but we now know that GW will release a "Core Rule Lite" pdf in the near future (so I'm quite reassured : time to teach a few friends the new edition !). The Warcry Roadmap has me all excited and motivated to finish what I have for the game. Mid-November is my new deadline to finish the Gnarlwood scenery + Rotmire Creed, just in time for the new set. I won't try to guess the next 6 Warbands, but I'm so happy for the Order, Death and Sons Of Behemat Mawtribes DESTRUCTION players out there ! Especially @KingBrodd And we also may get more in-between releases like the Chaos Legionnaries and the Centaurian Marshalls... A word of caution though ; the Skink in the video could be an Order Thrall / Feral Beast (they are in the new Core Rules, like the Furies etc. from 1st edition...). But I hope he's from a (Feral) Seraphon Warband proper !

Well, WHAT A WEEK-END ! First of all, tried Warcry 2nd edition, it's GREAT. The few tweaks in the core rules, the campaign system, and the Heart of Ghur lore especially. Looking forward to the Compendium (in paperback finally ?!) and those sick Be'lakor fellas ! The BL characters are very good. The Warhammer + characters are even better ; those Familiars* 😍 Very happy on the other AOS preorders. Might get the Megadroth bones and the Aqualith scenery (for my Nurgle Deamons to corrupt, of course). When can we expect the LRL and Tzeentch Battletomes do you guys think ? * BUT MAN I'M SO SAD THAT LOVELY PIPE GUY ISN'T A NURGLE-RELATED RELEASE - I WANT A PLASTIC EPIDEMIUS SO MUCH

Like the next kill team arc in the space hulk, with different parts of the Gallowdark added in every new box, yes. Looking forward for more Seraphon ruins, or, better, a board to play inside the ruined Temple-Ship !!!

That's an Empire Armybook artwork from 8th edition ... The book is from the Old World (it's a reedition).