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really nice color theme. Do you want to include some Quarreller? Because it's the next thing to Rangers, the Dispossessed get at the moment. One thing I think about the forest theme. Why not some Fyreslayers as Tribes. Instead of having Ur-gold runes, they could wear tattoo's or warpaint.

Okay, after all the time I did nothing about this project, I did some reconstructing. At first I planned, using mostly Freeguild Warscrolls for them, but there is quite a little to much Wanderers Style in them. For a little organisation, I structured the Army in "Order of the verdant cycle", "Maidens of the verdant cycle", "the Forelorn", "Tribesmen" and the "Allied guard of Mitrilfels" First here is the List Orden of the Verdant Cycle Sister Christina (100) Loremaster 10 x Glade Guard (120) 10 x Glade Guard (120) 10 x Glade Guard (120) 20 x Bleakswords (200) 20 x Swordmasters (360) Total: 1020 Maidens of the Verdant Cycle Waywatcher (100) Spellweaver (80) - Heartwood Staff 10 x Sisters of the Watch (220) 10 x Sisters of the Watch (220) 5 x Sisters of the Thorn (220) 5 x Wild Riders (140) Total: 980 The Forelorn Excelsior Warpriest (80) Warrior Priest (80) - Sigmarite Warhammer & Shield Warrior Priest (80) - Sigmarite Greathammer Witch Hunter (60) - Pistol & Silver Greatsword War Altar Of Sigmar (250) Warrior Priest (80) - Sigmarite Warhammers 20 x Flagellants (160) 20 x Flagellants (160) Total: 950 The Tribesmen Shaman (100) Battlemage - Specialisation: Jade Tribesmen (160) 20 x Freeguild Guard - Spears and Shields Tribesmen (160) 20 x Freeguild Guard - Spears and Shields Total: 420 The Allied guard of Mithrilfels Freeguild General (100) - Great Weapon 6 x Demigryph Knights (320) - Lance and Sword 5 x Freeguild Outriders (130) 5 x Freeguild Outriders (130) Total: 680 Total: 4050 Order of the Verdant Cycle is a little mess, because Sister Christina and the Paladins don't really fit as a Waystrider and Wildwood Rangers and I had some guys with Sword and Shield that don't fit as Eternalguard or better saying anything of Wanderers. So this is an Order group with a Loremaster, Swordmasters and Bleakswords for the moment. And the Glade Guard is still missing Banners and Hornblowers because Archers didn't have them. The List which Units are painted, which are WIP etc will be found in the Headpost of the Blog. Another thing, quite new are my Maidens of the verdant cycle. Those of you, who know my Twitteraccount (@EMMachine27) will already know that they are because I made some posts about them already. It's a Wanderers Force, completly in the Stlye of Sisters of the Watch and Sisters of the Thorn. 20 Sisters of the Watch + Waywatcher Kitbash Waywatcher Kitbash Closeup Kitbash Spellweaver Wildrider Conversion.

I think it would fit better than making Korhil a living aelf (after dying in the endtimes). It's strange that we didn't hear much about the godbeasts after the endtimes, but I think it would make the world more interesting if we have gods and godbeasts. Perhaps I should try to draw him (even I'm not a good drawer, and only having 5 times of lions in the story (and use one of them in this project). do you mean the organisation of one subgroup or all of them? Normally, for the fanmade battletome I will have to make some organisation description. One problem is, I don't know what GW is planning so this effort could be wasted at the end (even this is a problem in tabletop all the time).

I would actually more like it Caradryan would be a Phoenix Godbeast all Phoenix Temple bound with (like I made Korhil a Lion Godbeast in a Background Description). This has to be the solution at some point, but I don't know if the unmounted Phoenix has to be cheaper or the mounted one more expensive.

So, I made a version 1.2 (still without background because the one part I posted isn't really enough for it). For once, I made some Shadow Warrior like unit again. They are Lion Hunters, too. They have the defensive abilities of the Lion Rangers and the deployment rule of the Shadow Warriors but not the re-roll. The Champion makes a additional Attack like the Shadow Warriors. The other Lion Hunters unit got the Change change with the champion and the deployment Rule, too. In Addition a made minor point changed to the Units that contain a Emperor Lion. I made Lion Noble and Lion Lord on Emperor Lion 20 Points cheaper (after a Chaos Lord only costs 250 Points), and the Emperor Lion doesn't have a flying rule. And the Emperor Lion itself got 50 Points cheaper. 150 Points for him should be enough. 200 Points could be a little to expensive for him, after he is a non Flying Manticore with slower Movement.

I know, my own Lion Rangers Army is more a painting project. Don't even know, if this army will ever see a gameboard. I think nobody knows. I still have to look how I make the rest (at best in a generic form, or seeing from various different aelfen kinds). I made up those 5 lion kinds, so there is something like a rainbow-colored mane, but there could be many more. If GW gives them some sort of background, I can still have my Fyre-aelfs. One thing I realized. I was thinking about if I can just add the toppart and buttompart of the warscroll into my document, but the topline gets far to small in the page format, and if I rotate the page by 90° it will get too small for my Emperor Lion Units, so 2 pages would be needed. Putting the entire warscroll into a Google doc, will get quite small, too. So my "layout" will be the easiest way, even it's quite ugly.

Sounds like there casting mold broke down or all models after a certain point were miscasts.

So, some small updates. Actually I posted the updates into a blog here. I uploaded some WIP Pictures of War Lions and the Emperor Lion in the Blog Entry here: And translated the story about the Lion Rangers Godbeast. The Great Lion Korhil:

So, I wrote a small introduction of the godbeast that stands befind the Lion Rangers and created the different kinds of Lions.

So, this is more of a WIP Post. At first I thought making a Scar like Theme, but this didn't worked out, mostly because of the light underbelly. At the end I got a little inspiration of @kenshin620 Lionpictures in the Fanmade Lion Rangers Battletome Thread. The Idea could be that my lion ranger aelfs could be some sort of firealefs (or fyreaelfs if we take the wording of fyreslayers) living in aqshy having Blaze Lions. Actually I'm writing something about a Lionlike Godbeast, that isn't translated yet, don't know if it is even finished, yet.

Reloaded the pictures, because for some reason they weren't visible.

I think, the problem here is the mindset. Narrative play isn't about cracking your opponents skull with WAAC. It's more about crafting a story out of it. So if you get a enjoyable Story that you can show others the game exists. And for those games its better if the game has 4+ Turns instead of one Player winning after 2. Do you really need balance if you're playing a last stand Scenario where one player has to wipe out the other one, but the other one wins if after the last round still 1 model lives? Or losing most of the army but winning the game because you got your models into the right place. But for such games, you need players that don't have the WAAC Mindset. In real matched play, those Battalions are lost, as well as those were the Name of a Warscroll was changed or those never having a pitched battle profile (like the Realmgate Wars Battalions). Thats the disadvantage of following 100% Matched Play.

So, the beginning of my Lion Rangers were mostly models I had in my old high elf army, rebasing some of them and buying a new box of Lion Rangers to get new Command Units, leaving some old models I started painting (so I didn't have to decolor them) and building an hero for them because GW didn't. The result was this: 1 Lion Noble (using the Dragon Noble Warscroll) 3x10 White Lions 3 White Lion Chariots 6 War Lions (don't having a Warscroll at all) After that (mostly because at the moment the War Lions don't have an Warscroll or a real hero) I started to work on my Fanmade Lion Rangers Battletome: In the next stage I give my army some new Units like the Lion Lord on Emperor Lion (made out of a Manticore) and the Lion Riders Cavalry. The next goal will be finding a interesting color theme for them that will fit into the fantastic world called "the mortal Realms".

Actually never see Thunder Cats (I was about 2 when the series ended). Hm, you mean, getting some axes of the Vanguard Rangers? Actually I got my Lion Rangers Box today (because of tomorows holliday). so I could build my Lion Riders and my Lion Lord on Emperor Lion today. The Combination War Lion, Wildrider Legs and White Lion Bodies work really good here Im not so good with greenstuff in case of the Emperor Lion, but I hope it will look less wierd when it has paint on it.

It was a nicely done lore over all the years, just had the flaws that every Armybook was a nation and most spaces of the world was fleshed out, so it left very little room for creativity without causing problems with the official lore. Thats what I like about the AoS lore. I can enjoy the lore written by gw or other players and at the same time I can create my territories making my own faction without causing lore problems. Take your time. It's more an Alpha without pictures. Only Warscrolls and Tables for Skirmish, Path to Glory, and Pitched Battle. At the moment the Warscrolls don't even have the AoS Design. Feel free to write suggestions into the my other thread, but it don't has to be a high priority. Edit: to say something about the Phoenix Temple it self. I would really see potential for such a faction, too. Smaller Birds (like Aetherwing) with the fire or ice theme. Archers with flaming or icy Bows and Arrows (like Sisters of the Watch) Wizards casting fire or ice magic. there could be literally bird cavalry (like Demigryth or Vanguard-Palladors) Or some entirely different form of Phoenix (after we have 2 variants) One thing thats not entirely fleshed out is the part that they have taken a vow of silence. It should be a little complicated if no one can give orders because no one speaks. In the end the Phoenix Temple is some form of religion (or cult, after everyone literally dies and is reborn with phoenix essence). The main problem is, that without a Battletome we are forced to use a the units that are connected to the faction by keyword and restricted by allies.

Yeah, combined with my Frost Aelf project I have 8 of 10 Factions that were part of either Highborn or Darkkin/Exiled Aelfs. Actually I don't want to go back to the "old" army design. I like the idea that we have some sort of subcultures now that don't have to be fix High Elves or Dark Elves It's more a thing of creating thematic armies, building own cities. Simply having a little creative fun. So even if I would make a Frost Aelf Phoenix Temple they would be Frost Aelfs for me, not Highborn or Darkkin/Exiled. Using Legends would mean, writing stuff for the "world that was" instead for realms with nearly endless possibilities (and we have nearly the same problems with the Legends list like with the start of Age of Sigmar, having no points or fixpoint like Path to Glory, where we can say that unit "A" has equal value to unit "B"). Because of that, I started making a fanmade Battletome for Lion Rangers, to give them a little more (even perhaps somewhere in the future GW does or battletome or not) If we get lucky, making such projects will help to get a real battletome with the choices we used in our projects, if not we have a Themed Army with style.

So, lets go into round 2 with the Battletome 1.1. Simply wrote some things together We have a Lion Lord now that got a Battleaxe and a similar Effect like the Dragon Lord (basicly the Korhil Model or other models with a second Axe. The Lion Noble has now a Throwing Axes got up 10 Points Both Heros have a Variant with a Emperion Lion Lion Trainer is now called Lion Tamer is now a Blood Stoker for War Lions The Lion old Lion Hunters are now called Lion Archers, lost 1 Point Bravery, 4" Range of there Bows but got 20 Points cheaper new Lion Hunters do have Throwing Axes and a Hunterblade (could be sword or Axe like) and priced like Vulkite Berzerkers White Lions are called Lion Guard now Lion Chariot got 1" slower War Lions got 1" faster new Unit Lion Riders Emperor Lion added (mostly a Manticore without wings and a little slower. Don't know if I got the points right but it should be a little more variation her.

I actually think, I will make Warscrolls for both Variants (Bows and Throwing Axes) but not building such a unit yet. The funny thing with the demigryphs is, that those guys actually have 4 wounds. (A little much when we think that the Lion Chariot has 6 Wounds and my Lions do have 2 at the moment (because Frost Sabres have 2). Another point is. Should the Cavalry and the Lions be faster than the Chariot? I mean 2 Riders won't be very different from 1 Chariot if all stats are the same and the move of 9" of the chariot could be the weight of it. There should be a point taking the Lions or the Riders instead of the Chariot. Or the Chariot should be 1" slower? Yeah, thats true. It don't have to be "White Lions". The burning one looks really cool, but I don't want to sit on one. At the end its like with Ponyta and Rapidash of Pokemon where you only get burned if they don't like you . Even Scars Colortheme (Lionking) could look cool. Actually I bought some stuff today: Friday I should get another box with 10 White Lions. Hopefully the stuff I want to do works. I think I will try to build 3 Lion Riders (have to make 3 War Lions on Taller Bases in this case, perhaps a Tamer and something I would call a Lion Lord/Lion Noble on Emperor Lion. Bases on the Manticor, perhaps without the wings and a change for its Tail (I'm not really good with green stuff but perhaps I can make a little Fur on its Tail (and close the holes where the wings would be. I still have some White Lions on Squarebase, so when I use some of them too, I can still get 10 more White Lions (perhaps they should be called Lion Guard or something). So be prepared You mean some sort of rule for the War Lions?

In case of Tomb Kings. GW could give Deathrattle some Archers, Mounted Archers, Chariots and some sort of Priest and you would have a more complete army where you can use some of the models. Some of the units were reduntant between both armies. Don't know about the other units.

First thanks to all feedback until now. Before going through all of this first to remind. There should be a existing "backup" Warscroll to use, if not using this battletome. I'm not really playing right know but I can't force people to play against unofficial rules so in best case the army should be playable (as a mixed Order Army) even under Matched Play Conditions, (better without compendium warscrolls, because after seeing the Dark Aelfs Legacy List, those units won't be available they are reworked. It's the problem of many subfactions, coming from WHFB, at the moment. The Lionrangers would really be really good Ghur Aelves with their wild look. As I quite like the idea of throwing axes. The point is, there are not many warscrolls using them (I could see what I have in my Duardin Bits from my WHFB Dwarf Army). Do you really think that an aelf can get this much force into a throwing axe, if even dwarfs only wound on 4+? Perhaps a boost when fighting monsters knowing where weakspots are. And what should be a backup warscroll? Black Arc Corsairs? Freeguild Guard? Thanks, this is good to know. Perhaps in a later state I can redo the warscrolls, but I think as long I don't have a fix status I should stay with the doc because its a little quicker to make the updates at the moment. Don't know, yet. But still can use Order Allegiance abilities so the priority isn't that high right now. Yeah, shame on me for that one. Don't know if I should fix that as a quickchange without changing the version or as part of the new version. A priest or a totem could be interesting. I mean, in the GA:Order they are descriped as some sort of Monastery Order (sounds a little like my Order of the Yellow Rose). But I don't actually know, what they should get as Abilities,yet. Hm, the White Lion Trainer was suppost to train the Warlions. Don't know how he should make Lion Rangers re-roll saves. Perhaps I should call him a Tamer instead. Like I said, its the rule that the Iceblow Hunter gives to the Frost Sabres (in that case on the frost Sabres Warscroll). And I already weakened the rule by 4" and make the bravery effect a wholly within effect. Still can make him more like the Blood Stoker, that he whips a unit of WAR LIONS giving them a effekt (if I take his Effect instead it would be 3" to Run / Charge Moves and re-roll wound Rolls of 1 for the Lion Attacks. Or how about the Beastmasters effect for Hydra/Kharibdyss. Rolling 3 dice discarding the lowest but causing a Mortal Wound on a triple. (but could be a little week for a HERO Choice) What would sound better? Hm, should be the least problem to change that after I shouldn't mix the Pitched Battle Profiles or something like that. Only took those names because of the existing Scrolls. Hm, one unit I could think of in case of a Monster would be a Manticore (I know, it was a Dark Elves creature in the old world and actually only used by Slaves of Darkness), but its the closest thing to a Lion that we get. Strangely I missed out this one (or it was the different look). Actually I should have some of these because my Archers in the "Faithful of Eloni" Project used the Eternal Guard bodys. Hm, there was a point where I thought about something like that. The point is, the only GW Lions avalable are in the Chariot Box (with 2 of them), so you need to buy many chariots, building many swifthawk Agents Chariots to use the Lions. The question is, what sort of Cavalry it could be. Making them 5 Models like Dragon Blades or Drakespawn Knight would make them really expensive. Perhaps 2 or 3 Models similar to Demigryph Knights? Actually I would need to give my Lions some bigger bases if I want to use them as Cavalry. (Actually I used 60x35 mm Bases for the 6 Lions I based, but I think in case of Cavalry I would need at least 75x42mm Bases). Hm, Sisters of Thorn legs do really have a similar design. First thought were legs of Dragon Blades, but these are quite different in design. Or making it a little strange (even I have seen this in a Total War Warhammer Youtube Video), Lion Rangers riding on Horses. No problem. My Alarielle praying humans use many Wanderers bits (see in the link above). I really should finish more of those models, too. And to be fair, Lion Rangers have more in common with the wanderers than the Sisters of the Watch/Sisters of Avalorn with there magical firebows (would actually see these girls as Eldritch Council or Phoenix Temple not really as Wanderers). But after all of this, 1 problem stays. What will I use as Battleline when I only use official Warscrolls? That was the point of taking the Archers in the first place? If I look through the existing Warscrolls we have the following Order Battlelines: Aelfs: Bleakswords, Darkshards, Dreadspears, Sisters of Slaughter, Whichaelfs, Reavers, (Dryads), Glade Guard, Namarti Thralls. Duardin: Warriors, Longbeards, Vulkite Berzerkers, Human: Freeguild Archers, Freeguild Crossbowmen, Freeguild Guard, Freeguild Handgunners, (Liberators) Seraphon: Skinks, Saurus Warriors Using the Skinks Warscroll would be a little wierd, Duardin doesn't really match. and the only Warscroll that could have some sort of Missile Weapon without beeing a bow would be Freeguild Guard with Militia Weapons (their range is a little high). And playing Lion Rangers as Namarti Thralls would be a quite bad solution . Any Suggestions?

So, just corrected an error (but leaving the Version number). At first I wrote the document partly in german, but thought, why not using the english rules because this way I can post it here. But sadly I left a translation error. To add some information. At first my White Lion Noble was quite a Warscroll clone of Korhil (leaving the "bodyguard" out) , but after I made my Model out of the Dragon Nobles kit, I desided to change it. There are two things. You would need Korhils model after its quite impossible getting a nice one handed axe for a generic Aelf Model and second His Command Ability gave +1 to Wound against Monsters (do we really need this for a Army where the close combat infantry wounds on 3+?) I think I could make an extra warscroll (with slightly higher points) where the model can have 2 Weapons (for a version 1.1). Another thing I thought after posting the PDF. Perhaps I have made the Hunters a little expensive. 2 Units that could have a similar role are Black Arc Corsairs and Spireguard. Black Arc Corsairs are better in Close Combat, have halve the range but more shots in the Shooting Phase, a similar save (costing about halve of my hunters) Spireguard is better in close Combat, has a similar weaponrange (4" less) and also a similar save (costing 20 Points less) Perhaps I could make the White Lion Hunters about 20 Points cheaper. Perhaps you have some other suggestions. My only real goal with this is to encourage a little creativity and give some of the smaller factions a little more flair.

So the problem aren't the Darkshards, more the Sorceress on Drakespawn and the Bolt Throwers that are only in the Legacy List and in this case not usable anymore for Grand Alliance (not having the Order Keyword) and Matched Play (not having a Pitched Battle Profile).

Darkshards are an Order Battleline and part of Darkling Covens. After Darkling Covens is part of AoS not legends the official warscrolls are playable. Or what do you mean?

Hi, A part of one of my projects is a Lion Rangers Army. The models I actually own are 3x10 White Lions, 1 Dragon Noble in White Lion Design, 3 White Lion Chariots and 6 War Lions. I posted a Twitterpost ( @EMMachine27 ) yesterday (with the unpainted models) because I didn't finish any models during during last weeks and wanted to post something. Now I have the problem. Lion Rangers don't have battlelines or Leader, so they are only playable as Allies, in Order Armies or Path to Glory (Dragon Noble, White Lions, White Lion Chariot). To get the army somewhere playable in Matched Play I need some Battlelines. Perhaps Freeguild Archers or Glade Guard in case of Rules because why would you take close Combat units when you already have White Lions. Perhaps I will look if I can make a conversion of White Lions and the Army of Shadow Warriors. The bigger problem are the War Lions. The Warscroll that would be the closest are the Frost Sabres, in case of Order Warscrolls Gryph Hound. Now I thought, perhaps I could write something like an unofficial Lion Rangers Battletome. I have a PDF Document (made with Google Doc) with Warscrolls, Skirmish Table, Path to Glory Table and Pitched Battle Profiles. I don't know, how you guys make the official looking design. In my case it's quite plain and instead of the way GW handelt the Description and Command Unit Upgrades I uses a Design more similar to the 40k Design. To give a little Overflow. White Lions simply got a "Battleline if" White Lion Chariots got a "Battleline if" similar to the Scourgerunner Chariot of Scourge Privateers, get a WAR LION Keyword, and the option for a Champion (when having more than 1 model, because 1 model champion spam isn't good design ) White Lion Noble is a Dragon Noble with a little weaker Enchanted Shield (Lion Cloak) White Lion Trainer should be a little in function of the Beastclaw Raiders Hunter (with less Range), but could alternativly also be like the Bloodstoker. War Lions are a little mix of Frost Sabres, the War Lion Rules of the Chariot (and perhaps a little "Storm of Magic" (WHFB) White Lion Hunters should be the equivalent of the Freeguild Archers or Glade Guard in this case but more a mix Highborn Archers (AoS Compendium and White Lions) What do you guys think so far. Would such a army be possible, what units are too expensive or too cheap. Actually don't know what could be made for Allegiance Abilites, Battalions or Champion Reward Tables. What units would be interesting, too? Perhaps with a little advertising on Twitter or Facebook for Modelprojects, Lion Rangers could get a little love from GW, too. Edit: Is this the right place for content like this or is there a better place?

Nicely done. A really nice coherent look. It's still interesting how this army keeps there cold look even with the gold. Did you use fire for the energy ball because of the fire on the banners? Sadly I didn't painted much during the last weeks. I have some WIP Blood Stalkers, Darkshards and a Bloodwrack Medusa, but nothing finished, yet. I have some Aelf Faction build up and primed during last weeks mostly 1000 Point lists or something above. 1000 Points Swifthawk Agents (Cavalry style, with Reavers, Charots and a High Warden) 1000 Points Swifthawk Agents (Spireguard Style) 1000 Points Eldritch Council (could be 1500-2000 Points if Sisters of the Watch weren't too expensive by about 20 Points per unit to ally them) 1000 Points Scourge Privateers 1000 Points Shadow Guild (not playable in Matched Play, Assassine, Shadow Warriors, Dark Riders) 1000 Points Lion Rangers (not playable in Matched Play, Dragon Noble as Hero, White Lions, White Lion Chariots and Warlions (not having a warscroll) ) Perhaps I should pack everything into 1 project (don't actually know if I should merge it with my Frost Aelfs because they are aelfs or if they will be separate because the would be big enough with their nearly 6000 Points (as much as the 6 projects above together)