Siegfried VII

I would advise you don't get many multiples of the same unit, since in a couple of months we'll have the other half of the model/warscroll range and our list building will have many more options thus enabling you to make more inform desicions.. So better get some units you like and go harder once the new Broken Realms book comes out! 🙂

Thanks for the clarification guys! 🙂

I see.. so if I read the chart correctly we are on the low end of Mid-Tier at the moment and I feel vindicated when I insisted the army is not as powerful as some players claimed.. Of course this is the beginning of the faction and I expect we go upwards with the new releases + us getting better at using the army, but I feel it is very representative for now.. Are these the AOS shorts stats?

Presonally I don't feel cheated. I own both Lumineth and Daughters. Regarding Lumineth yes I was dissapointed with the delay of their release and I would prefer more models in the initial release but I am excited we get new shiny models and I would have bought the Broken Realms to follow the story regardless so it's all good in the end.. Regarding Daughters the last battletome was in 2018, so getting a new one now is only natural, so I'm good with it. Anyways the broken realms book left many things that needed refresh in terms of rules..

Then you either didn't read my posts properly or your own math is sorely lacking mate. Sorry.

You clearly miss the point here, so I won't continue debating with you. I have already replied regarding the cost of the books per year and there's nothing more to say really.. Let's agree to dissagree and both be happy.

Only the 2020 as I felt it was redundant due to covid. He he Ican post some pictures if you like.. 😛

Personally I have bought all my Battletomes in physical copies properly. I like them so I buy them. What you say is not correct because not all 6 of my armies get a battletome every year, main rulebook is every 3 years and campaign books with rules will not include always your armies or be available every year. In 2020 I bought 2 books. Lumineth Battletome and Morathi Broken Realms (didn't get the GHB due to lack of gaming). In 2019 I bought 3 books. GHB, Sylvaneth and Cities battletomes. So as I said it's really not that much.. 😉

Sentinels are very dependant on casting their own spell in order to do the damage. If that fails or is unbound their damage output is abyssmal really.. The snake archers of Daughters of Khaine have the same damage output and do not need a spell (or two if you also want lambent light) to perform, plus with a command point Morathi can double their damage by making them shoot in the hero phase too.. Sentinels are good but they can be muted easily with good unbinds and are very squishy if the get shot first..

I don't dissagree here and though personally I love getting new books and have the excitement of opening a brand new battletome and read the fluff and the rules (it renews my hype and interest for the faction), what you suggest may very well be a viable way, at least regarding the gaming aspect of the hobby. Now whether that would be more profitable for GW I can't say for sure as I lack the economics background to have an informed opinion..

I would appreciate if you didn't twist my words.. I said in a previous post that 32,5 is a drop in the ocean compared to the money the vast majority of us invest in the hobby and in miniatures and that is a fact. 100 euros is not a drop in the ocean, but if one has 6 armies and wants to have all of them up to date in terms of rules having to buy 3-4 books per year is logical.. As for me, my income is quite small so 100 euros is a substantial ammount of money for me. The fact that I got 6 armies during the lifespan of Age of Sigmar and not sticking to 1 or 2 factions only is a personal choice and the consequences mine to deal with. I have no interest in generalizing my experience nor in forcing my view to others. I am free though to express my opinion regarding this topic. You are free to dissagree and have a different opinion of course.. 😉

General's handook and main rulebook have no relation with battletomes and their cycle.. Regarding 2 campaign books this is hardly the case for any army that exists. If you prefer to use the money for the painting part of the hobby good for you, but you can't have a good ruleset with additions and fixes and not have to invest some money. Campaign Books have also lore and advance the story.. If someone isn't interested in this part it his choice and his problem really.. If there is a book that only has one page for your army, just download it from some source or find a picture from someone who has it and that will be that I have full armies for Stormcast Eternals, Sylvaneth, Lumineth, Cities of Sigmar, Idoneth and Daughters of Khaine and Idon't think I spend more than 100 euros per year for books.... And that is with me owning 6 full factions, so I fail to see the argument on the financial investment to be honest..

I think the worst offenders are the Alarith Stoneguard in the case of lumineth (and seeing the Swordmasters in the preview video be 5 models makes me think the Swordmasters will get the same treatment) were for the same price you get 10 Wardens or 10 Sentinels you only get 5 Stoneguard.. Mind you we are talikng about the same size of models.. So with the same money you get half the models.. This in my opinion is one of the most agressive price raises in the last years from GW and makes me think that will be the new trend..

I think so far with a few exceptions battletomes have a 2 year cycle... I believe the sweet spot is between 1,5 year the soonest and 2,5 years the latest depending on the state of the army rules-wise and the number of new models ready to be released..

I agree with your points. They are valid. I can see why some people may feel uneasy.. But isn't it better that our armies remain relevant to the game and expand with shiny new models? We all know that there are many instances where some units in a battletome are in bad shape and need an update.. Or the whole battletome needs a refresh to keep up.. Isn't ite better to get the updates? Don't we all want new models to sink our teeth in? I started playing Warhammer back in the 6th edition of Warhammer Fantasy Battles and I vividly remember the nightmare of having to wait 3 or 4 years to get an update on the book.. If it was good, great but if it was bad you were stuck with crappy rules for years.. Now we have a living breathing game were we get a nice stream of new things to get excited for.. Even the metagame changing is nice and keeps things fresh and interesting! And again it's not that much of an investment.. The Lumineth battletome is 32.50 euros.. with the same ammount I can get an Alarith Stonmage blister.. So for me not being able to get an extra Stonemage is really a small price to get new exciting rules and lore to have fun with!! The reply is not directed to you as we more or less agree ut to all the guys/gals who feel bad for the quicker releases.. I wanted to give a more possitive viewpoint.. 🙂

I'm really struggling to understand why people complain about us getting new battletomes sooner.. This is a really expensive hobby and quite frankly 35 more euros for updated rules/lore every other year is really a drop in the ocean in my opinion...

Ι am of the same opinion and I hope both of us are correct! The delay/wait all these months for the release last year really did a number on the excitment for me.. 😅

I hope it is a dude or worse case scenario have both options.. I need my avatar on the field of battle!! If it is a she I will for sure make some type of conversion.. 🙂

Thinking back from all the artworks it seems they really wanted to push the Alarith aspect of the range.. Battletome cover + both Novel covers + Soulbound cover all depict Stoneguard as the main focus... It's like the army has no other units.. 😛 Regarding the mount it could still be a non-feather chocobo style creature.. Long-limbed does not mean four-legged..

Agreed! I have seen many times the screenshots of the rider and I don't get a camel vibe at all from it.. And to be honest I hope it's not a camel because I really don't like their aesthetic as animals..

I see! I will check it out because in the summer I searched high and low on their site and all the cases were either too big or too small and I ended up putting the foams in a bag which is far from the optimum choice.. 😅 Thanks for the help mate! 🙂

I have bought the same foams myself but I haven't found a case for their size... Did you get it also from battlefoam or from another company? 🙂

None I'm afraid... And most likely we won't be seeing it until the 3rd broken realms book the way I see it.. I hope I'm proven wrong though and we see them sooner rather than later.. 🙂

I wrote the reasons Leviadon is fine. You are free to disagree of course. The point is to fix all monsters and not keep making sub par warscrolls for them. As I said the monsters of all armies should be good not just Leviadon, so you implying that I am a powerplayer only caring for myself winning is not a valid point.. Nerfing the Leviadon makes all monsters bad which I believe is not what we want if we want to see diverse armies on the tables.. 🙂

The Leviadon is fine! Most of the other monsters are sub-par.. GW for the first time seems to get better at creating monster warscrolls. These big monsters NEED to hit like a ton of bricks imo and I hope all the other armies get powerful monsters so we can see them more in competitive play.. 🙂