TechnoVampire

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Finally finished painting my VLOZD (minus the rider)

I just finished painting mine… can’t wait for him to miss a bunch of attacks 🤪

Thanks! that’s really kind of you to say… Red and blue are the colours I’m using for my SBGL army, as inspired by the battletome cover art, which I love.

Nooo I wish I could take credit 😅 It’s someone’s I follow on Instagram. They’re a fantastic painter: https://instagram.com/gmpaintingstudio?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= this is my latest skeleton:

10 versions of this please:

… Thematically it also just feels like VLOZD/ Vhordrai should be a bit more epic on the table, especially given his lore and supposed role in the army. After naggash he should be the scariest thing we can field. I also think that might address some of the problems the army has competitively… there’s a reason so many people use him despite being notoriously unreliable. It’s a role that needs filled.

100% agree, I think with a bit of tweaking he could be great, and I would prefer that than a token points reduction. SBGL needs a scary non named leader unit and VLOZD would benefit from a more defined roll; either as a combat monster by adding a few more wounds and making his damage more reliable (my first choice), or by giving him some decent support/ utility potential. Right now he’s 435 points and doesn’t really shine at any of the above, but can be kind of made to work given some luck on the dice and support from other units. The SBGL book reduced his efficiency from LON, and so I hope they update it in next book… I wouldn’t even mind a points increase if it was given a more modern warscroll.

Has anyone else been using ten man units of bladegheists and feel underwhelmed with their performance? They feel like they should perform really well in units of 10, but with coherency they only ever attack in one rank (5), which isn’t enough to do significant damage. With the new book using MSU is very advantageous, and these feel like they should be the go to for small damage dealing units, but for me they are far outclassed by grimghasts - being cheaper, battleline and attacking in 2 ranks. Disappointing as their warscroll and models make me really want to use them.

None of them excite me, or make me think those units will see much more play. As you say Neferata was probably the most impactful, but I don’t run her, I much prefer Mannfred. I would have preferred some warscroll updates but didn’t expect them. IMO VLOZD needs a points drop or to remove those 4+ to hit and to be given a command ability. His warscroll feels dated and outclassed to me, he’s often the best choice for a non named combat monster, but he’s too unreliable for the points.

I feel like they’ve been teasing us with the various other new skeleton kits; deathrattle, cursed city, underworlds, gnarlwood. It would be great if they update the classic and beloved grave guard to give them new models to match their warscroll. They’re my current most desired unit for an update 🤞

I like this list. It feels like you’ve got a lot in it. It might be worth considering including a unit of chaingasts for +1 to hit since you have the spirit torment anyway. Also midnight tome artefact seems really strong if using endless spells for a once per battle autocast… I have a similar style list I’m thinking of trying: Army Faction: Nighthaunt - Army Subfaction: The Emerald Host - Grand Strategy: Feed on Terror - Triumphs: Bloodthirsty LEADER 1 x Krulghast Cruciator (150) 1 x Reikenor the Grimhailer (190) - Spells: Shademist 1 x Guardian of Souls (150)* - Chill Blade - Artefacts: Midnight Tome - Spells: Seal of Shyish 1 x Knight of Shrouds on Ethereal Steed (155)* - General - Command Traits: Spiteful Spirit - Artefacts: Soulfire Ring 1 x Spirit Torment (115)* BATTLELINE 20 x Grimghast Reapers (320)** 20 x Chainrasps (220)** - Dreadwarden 3 x Spirit Hosts (125)** ENDLESS SPELL 1 x Purple Sun of Shyish (70) 1 x Chronomantic Cogs (40) OTHER 2 x Chainghasts (95) 10 x Bladegheist Revenants (175) 10 x Bladegheist Revenants (175) CORE BATTALIONS: *Command Entourage - Magnificent **Expert Conquerors TOTAL POINTS: (1980/2000) Created with Warhammer Age of Sigmar: The App

Ah yeah sure. I thought you meant reroll the same charge multiple times. My mistake.

I’m confused because the core rules state you can’t reroll anything more than once, so it wouldn’t work unless I’m missing something?

I really like this idea of using her as an aggressive attacking unit. I feel like that’s maybe where her hidden strength lies, considering her ability to shrug and heal. Her support elements look good when they go off, but are pretty random… Can you use bloodthirsty and forward to victory in the same phase??

This is pretty much what I suspected she’d be like… for 340 points I want a some sort of role fulfilled well and reliably, and I can’t see how she achieves that. I feel it’s slightly disappointing. I was excited about her getting a new scroll, and as much as I want to like her I don’t quite see how she fits/ what she achieves. I’ll most likely play her for fun and enjoy when she works, but not put much stock on her performing.

That’s interesting. I like that she’s a double caster ( although I wish she had bonus to cast/ unbind), is pretty tough to kill and provides some support (though I’d prefer a decent buff than one off resurrect). I’m usually list building with her because I have the model, but often feeling like I want to spend the points on other things. It depends on the list I’m building, but I feel like NH are quite (decent) caster light, so if I remove her I’ve tended to replace her with reikenor and purple sun + cogs with some with points left over. Otherwise if I’ve got Guardian of souls in the list I’ve found she makes room for cruciator (which I struggle to fit in sometimes) + another unit of something useful. I’m mostly just theory building though, as I haven’t had much time to play games lately so welcome hearing other people experiences.

That seems fair. I haven’t had a chance to play with her yet and I don’t think she seems very competitive, but I own the model so I’ll probably use her in my casual games. I think if I was playing more competitively I’d be tempted to cut her and spend the points elsewhere, but I’m interested to know if others have found her particularly useful for a specific purpose?

I’m wondering what the general consensus on Lady O is so far? I love the model, but I’m not entirely sure what purpose she serves for the points. Aside from filling a role as a caster, I feel like the points would almost always be better spent on more bodies or cheaper support hero’s. What are other people’s thoughts/ experiences?

Thanks, that’s really helpful. Your answer feels very comprehensive and helps clears things up a lot. Appreciate you taking the time! The current pace of rules changes feels like a lot to me, (although I’m a very casual player). I’ll have maybe played a few games of the current edition of the GHB by the time it changes again in a few months… it feels like quite a lot to keep up with, and it’s a tricky system to try and explain when introducing new players.

Ah ok, that’s as clear as can be. I don’t have the GHB, so thanks for clearing that up 👍

Just a simple one: Can the ‘bounty hunters’ battalion be picked multiple times within matched play for a legal list? I’ve tried searching online and can’t find a definitive answer. The official AOS app allows it, and I can’t find anything’s that says it can’t, but I’ve also not heard anyone talking about it. Thanks!

Thanks for this. I think I follow. I’m just a bit confused by the system of having GHB’s, battlepacks and core rules. Does a GHB count as a battle pack and is therefor self contained? It seems that sometimes rules/ content from a GHB can be combined with a separate battlepack within matched play, like the previous GHB could be combined with thondia… or maybe I’m mistaken. I feel like I’ve confused myself and it’s maybe not that complex 😅

Hi there, can anyone tell me if by the rules you can use the grand strategies from the thondia battlepack when playing the rules/ battleplans from the new GHB? Thanks!

Also can I ask why you use wight king on skeletal steed?