Maogrim
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5 minutes ago, MitGas said:
No, no, it's that I just hate hate HATE Lumineth aelves and will always stoop so low if it means I can make fun of them! 😙
Anyways, Lumineth were smallish but not exactly small (like Fyreslayers) before their 2nd wave. And it's obvious they received a huge amount of the spotlight cause Phil Kelly likes them. Since he's on record as hating Chaos, so can I hate his army.
Pettiness aside, I think we can stomach preferential treatment with Stormcast or Space Marines but there was a time where Lumineth felt like that too as they got units in the other games and everything was kinda about them. The last straw was that Teclis calls himself God of Magic too and he's got 4 spells. As a disciple of Tzeentch, I'm miffed about that. Karis is way cooler than Teclis. A common grot is cooler than that spoony aelf! 😤I think they just wanted to build up a second Order alliance that was associated with light, justice etc next to the Stormcast Eternals to drive a part of the narrative. And High Elves were always a fan favourite in ye olden days so there was clearly money to be made. And I for one am thankful for it gave us amazing and imaginative miniatures like the Light of Eltharion, the Spirit of the Mountain and the Archmage himself.
And you do realize that, in your third paragraph, you state some rather petty grievances, right after opening with 'Pettiness aside'?
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1 hour ago, willange said:
I get that it’s a joke (and a good one at that!), but Lumineth WERE one of those smaller armies until they had their second wave. The only anomaly for them was that their second wave came very quickly. It’s weird that we keep picking on them when really we’d just love to have a 2nd wave of fyreslaers/ko/ironjawz/idoneth/bonesplitterz, etc
EDIT: What is that about Financial Education Compensation?
I wish I could spam this comment with all the Thanks Emojis the glorious armies Hysh could muster.
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@KingBrodd Looks like I was quite right when a few months back I hastily translated a line by @Whitefang into a King Brodd model comfirmation. Really happy for you, and I sincerely hope you're satisfied with what GW came up with for that character. Your positivity is such a vital part of these forums.
The Votann Grymnir is just 100% AOS design style. All in all I'll stay away from Votann for the time being. I do like a lot of the models quite a lot, but am not a fan of the vehicles' moon buggy look.
Khorne Berserkers are just a cool unit, albeit a little on the safe and unimaginative side, as usual for Khorne. Still looking forward to seeing more of World Eaters. Not my favourite legion but my favourite legion name.
The new Lumineth tome will get a different cover. Looks like GW listened when people complained about recycling tome covers. Though I don't really like the new one.
Chosen look good. Should appeal to everyone who ever fell in love with WHFB Chaos and is generally a fan of 90s metal album cover aesthetics.
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34 minutes ago, Neverchosen said:
I think the important part is that it represents faith in a way otherwise not present in AoS which is a representation of Animistic practices. It makes sense that the people's of destruction would worship gods of disaster with Gorkamorka functioning as a mythological hero that has encountered each of these gods of destruction.
This way you have:
Order - polytheism
Death - monotheism
Chaos - corrupted form of pantheism
Destruction - animism
But Chaos isn't pantheism since pantheistic beliefs don't have any kind of personified deities. And the Chaos gods do have personality in spades. Chaos Undivided could be classified as pantheism but the big four don't fit that bill.
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3 minutes ago, Vasshpit said:
Yeah I can understand that especially when the four aelvan factions all get there own books. I also find it silly orruk players can't even ally in models in their own book without going big waaagh.... O_o
Exactly... I was so hyped when Kruleboyz were first revealed. And then this excitement dwindled more and more when it became clear that they would be souped with Ironjawz (which also made clear that Ironjawz wouldn't be getting anything new), that there would only be three subfactions... and the final rules in the tome kind of killed Orruks for me.
Still think that Kruleboyz have amazing sculpts though.
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Makes more sense now. Thanks for explaining @Plinketts Mawtribes & @Fellman.
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5 hours ago, cyrus said:
But so far when two battletomes were released together they came along with a dualbox: fyreslayers vs Idoneth, Nighthaunt vs DoK, Sylvaneth vs Skaven , Lumineth vs Tzeentch.
Gloomspite vs Ogre seems more plausibile to me.
But apart from Wrath & Rapture and Fury of the Deep they usually don't pit two armies from the same Grand Alliance against each other. And in these two instances it made sense because Fyre vs Watyr (d'uh) and Khorne and Slaanesh are typically mentioned as counterparts as well.
With Ogors vs Gloomspite there doesn't seem too much of obvious conflict. Ogors aren't really interested in subterranean spaces and Gitz are far too scrawny and small to serve as meals. I guess Gitz could probably attack anyone because Bad Moon and being on shrooms and stuff. We'll see, but I personally don't see it happening.
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2 hours ago, Gothmaug said:
Any rumor out there about an actual order of Azyr faction? As in their own separate army under Order? Basically an excuse to make a new Human-centric fantasy army to replace the old Cities of Sigmar line? Lets face it, the Cities are a conglomeration of whatever was left in the old production line after they carved out all the AoS factions.
I'd love to see an Order of Azyr faction that has lots of human units, mixed with some stormcast-type units. Perhaps knights who were inspired by Stormcast? Or perhaps they're humans from a city where Stormcast can't reincarnate (Nagesh influence, chaos stealing souls, etc, pick your plot wrinkle) and the garrison of stormcast there have taken to training humans to fight alongside them. So you'd get some stormcast officers and small elite units, paired with heavily armored human knights, backed by priests and Inquisitors of Azyr. You could even take the crusade-esque route and have the Order of Azyr spreading into Ghur to help the humans there that are besieged by chaos.
Anyhow just a few dreams. I'm guessing the human army that I really want will appear for hte new Warhammer Old World setting, kind of like AOS's version of Horus heresy. They'll make the models slightly smaller in scale so they don't mesh well with AoS just to frustrate me
Um, isn't it already pretty comfirmed that the new Cities of Sigmar will be more human-centred and probably focus on the Dawnbringer Crusades? It's not called Order of Azyr but they should turn out basically as you've described them.
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1 hour ago, Chumphammer said:
Giving me hope!
Hm. Looks to me like the typical non- commital answer the Warhammer Community account gives on Instagram :We'll let you know as soon as something comes up'
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That pendant OBVIOUSLY points to MALERION AELVES!!!!!! Confirmed!!!!
Should that not be the case it just HAS TO BE SILENT PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!
And if I'm still wrong there's strong implications that the not-bull shape is a hint at CHAOS DUARDIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!11!!!1!!!
As Spiderfang and Fimir were already mentioned I'd say we should have all the TGA staples covered here.
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GW must feel the soring prices for transportation and energy as well, and it will get worse. Though I have to agree that 15£ on top is quite steep.
The hobby will never go mainstream. It's still far more nerdy, far more pricey and far more time-consuming compared to something like casual video gaming. And people will be quite hard pressed to maintain other 'hobbies' like eating, driving to work, dwelling under a functional roof or not freezing to death in winter.
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16 hours ago, Public Universal Duardin said:
Thank you for your kind words friend, as I wrote my comment after a particularly terrible customer. Sorely needed the kindness today!
I'm truly sorry to hear that you're having a rough time. If you need some kind words or just want to vent a little, please feel free to just drop me a DM or something. Life can be rough, especially in this day and age, and we all need a little support once in a while 😊
#PUDAnon 'till I die!
And I love the Hyshian orb! Never got a personalized meme before.
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1 hour ago, Public Universal Duardin said:
Oh, stay still my beating heart! That cogfort looks beau-ti-ful!!!
Sadly if that image is a tease of things to come seems Dawnbringers will be very much human-centric and I won't get my dream of mixed species units 😭
Not the biggest loss, granted, I'm still very much on team Dawnbringers - and I suspect we'll see them before Chorfs. In fact, due to my Chorf-addiction I've searched far and wide to truly be the most Public Universal (Infernal) Duardin of them all. In my search I've found the place to truly live the Chorf lifestyle. Minimum wage customer service! My boss whips me as I stop to take a break, my customers spit phlegm and slurs on me and as I crawl my broken body back to bed I can rest assured that the few hours of sleep I get are merely a temporary distraction from serving the diabolical effigy serving as my chain's mascot. Sleep, eat, work. Like death, the cycle is inevitable and inescapable. I no longer need new miniatures, for I have evolved past them. As I close my eyes I can smile, knowing that I have become a true Chaos Duardin.
And, just like Chaos Duardin, while your existence might be bare-bone snd crappy, at least in TGA you are a truly revered legend!
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Khorne is cool and all but I'd also agree that his stuff feels less imaginative and rather limited compared to the other three. Khornate aesthetic feels familiar because it is.
Physical attributes in his followers, mortals as well as daemons, boil down to bat wings, hooves and horns. Standard attributes of western devil/demon depictions, which most of us here will be rather familiar. Plus it's been done in other popular popcultural properties as well like the Diablo franchise.
Weapons, armour and ornaments are just axes, skulls and chains and archaic-looking breast plates. Basically a Manowar album cover, and alltogether not too far from standard Chaos Space Marine or Slaves to Darkness, just in red instead of black.
Tzeentch has Egypt, bird attributes and more weird design choices. Nurgle brings tge most disgusting and abhorrent mutations, plus insects and death-related imagery. Slasnesh adds gender-fluidity and a fair bit drukhari/cenobite SM vibe. All of them differ quite substantually from Chaos Undivided, far more than Khorne ever did.
PS: I'm back for now. Got into 40K recently (Iron Warriors, in case anybody cares
) plus some teaching practice and lots of papers to write so I wasn't active around here. Cheers!
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I think the curved sword could be Emperor's Children-related.
Also to those clamoring for Dark (A)Elves: They're already here. Join the rites of murder and worship at the altar of Morathi-Khaine.
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Just all gather behind my shining banner of Aelvendom, TGA, and you shall never be disappointed!
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41 minutes ago, Kitsumy said:
yes, but can take different mages, and have several lores of 4 spells, not only 4 spells in full book
But Idoneth have 6 subfactions to choose from while each Orruk faction just has three (or none at all, in case of Big Wwagh). And Idoneth have a bigger selection of stuff than each Orruk faction.
While I agree that 4 spells are quite few it's very hard to compare both tomes since one is a soup tome.
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43 minutes ago, Jetlife said:
The original IDK book wasn’t that bad to begin with so they just kind of tweaked it.
All the books have new and exciting ways to play. Everything is becoming more balanced. Competitive isn’t the only goal of the Battletomes. Most now allow you different ways to get more of a variety of units on the table compared to before which makes the game and hobby better.
I'm not sure that I'd agree here. Ironjawz for example are competetively viable but have lost some stuff that was present in their previous solo battletome. Daughters of Khaine just basically stayed the same in a lot of ways, just that it's now a little harder to unlock Melusai as battle line. And Fyreslayers can field more overpriced Magmadroths now (in one lodge) but also got worse across the bank (at least so I have heard).
Let's say: some have new and exciting ways to play.
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Would be pretty Meta if Warhammer Skulls was a game where you'd just roll a skull into a pile of other skulls and see how much mayhem you can cause. They could have different rules for human skulls, Dwarf skulls, spikey Chaos skulls, very fast skulls painted in red, incorporeal ghostly skulls, bigger giant skulls etc.
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11 minutes ago, Scurvydog said:
I feel the same, although I am painting more up right now, just to do an underdog challenge really. They have this sort of incomplete feel like LRL before wave 2 (even though nobody uses those models...).
They are very "top heavy" with most of their cool things being heroes, and others which hardly fits with the army at all, like the Sloggoth that by all means seems like a gitz model og also only used by Gitz 9/10 times.
A GHB can fix them a bit, but does not change they lack some few key unit types. They have basi infantry, xbow dudes and weak chaff, all with poor saves and mobility and only 1 of them default battleline, resulting in almost 600 pts of mandatory battleline with only 1 option for xbow batteline.
They do not have cavalry, "heavy" infantry or monstrous infantry to name some stand outs. Ironjwz of course suffer from a lack of variety as well, although they still feel a bit more "complete" in their playstyle and theme. All of them suffer from only 3 sub factions and limited spell lores and artifacts, also no endless spells or terrain pieces makes it so bare bones it almost feels like those additions to GHB we saw for armies going from 1st to 2nd edition. No idea why they decided to do this to orruk players, while even an army like Fyreslayers still get their own book. Ironjawz on their own should be plenty popular according to stats to have their own book.
Couldn't agree more and would give more than one like if possible. Thorough analysis.
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39 minutes ago, Iksdee said:
I dont think Bonesplitterz are that bad at the moment. Having lost all kinds of flavour and all the models becoming ancient i think is the reason they are less popular at the moment. I think Kruleboyz are easily "fixed" with minor tweaks or points adjustments. Big Waagh! is just a bonus soup list imo and Ironjawz are just fine. I dont think the book is bad but i think it suffers from being the first 3.0 book. The newer ones found a way of making more streamlined rules without losing all the flavour like Maggotkin or Nighthaunt. The theme and lore is all there but the rules kind of dont manage to reflect that imho. Just hope they dont end up like the Gloomspite Gitz tome over time.
Yeah, I wasn't trying to link the lack Bonesplitterz' popularity to bad performances necessarily, although they appear to be worse than Ironjawz. I completely agree that it's mostly the ancient models holding them back.
Kruleboyz are, in my opinion, being hindered by the souping. They could have been a really amazing link between the tricksy weirdness of Gloomspite Gitz and the raw destructive fury of Orruks had they been allowed to be their own faction with their own battletome. There's so much potential for new stuff with Kruleboyz that it's ultimately a little heartbreaking. One of the reasons I ultimately ended up selling mine although I really enjoyed lore and aesthetics. It's just not quite enough. Apart from heroes I guess.
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I think there's also a point to be made about the validity of the Orruk Warclans tome. As I read it it contains a faction which is very creative and flavourful in Kruleboyz who are however being seriously limited by overly complicated rules and a lack of valid options (everyone plays just one of the three subfactions). Ironjawz are really strong but lost some of their previous options and rules. No one seems to play Bonesplitterz, and Big Waagh is a disappointing mess.
So while Nighthaunt and Maggotkin seem to have been buffed or expanded upon by their new tomes (and Sylvaneth look very promising as well so far), other factions like Fyreslayers, Orruk Warclans and appearantly Skaven have been weakened or limited. So
What do Idoneth players think? I don't gear much about them since a glorious crustacean future never came to path. Are they better or more fun now, or just slightly different?
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I think that's a good change. Between Bloodwrack Medusa, Zainthar Kai and the Ironscale, unlocking Melusai was a little bit too easy. And of three, the Medusa kinda has the least to do with her non-magical kin.
So it's the Ironscale for the other temples.
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Somewhat controversial opinion and it also took me a little bit of time to get to it but I absolutely love Archmage Teclis and Celennar, Spirit of Hysh. In contrast to center pieces like Archaon or Alarielle where the god-tier character just sits/stands on top of the monster mount Teclis and Celennar really make the impression of a team. And it's also pretty cool how the floating cape builds the connection so Teclis appears to be levitating. Also chad T-pose. Chadlis. Also amazingly detailed base.
Another master piece is of course The Light of Eltharion. They really nailed the empty armor in such a creative way that is also pretty fun to build and comes with a cool ruin base.
But other factions have great kits as well of course! Just a few of my favourites:
- Katakros
- Black Coach
- Drycha Hamadreth
- Alarielle
- Morathi-Khaine and the Shadow Queen
- that big Kharadron ship zeppelin thing
- Megaboss on Mawkrusha
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The Rumour Thread
in Age of Sigmar Discussions
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True, it's the burden we carry. 😂
But I love almost every single army in Age of Sigmar, and I do think that especially Idoneth and Fyreslayers were done dirty.