Doko

That is 100% the same answer that every artist give when someone says that his work is ugly. But agree with you,it is only mi opinion, tastes are personals.

But this is a double edge sword. If you think a mini or army is bad and you dont buy it because you want gw know it its ok but have the chance of gw dont creating more units for that army due to poor sales or even squating it as bretonian or tomb kings due to low sales

I bet obr and tzenth gonna win all those tournaments. Who tougth for 200 points a unit of horrors with 50 wounds and a -1 to be hit in melle armywide is balanced.......

Yes i agree with you. Best example is obr,ugly models but veeeeery broken overpower: result: the mos played army in lvo and cancon. Tryhards players gonna jump from a fotm army to next fotm army(best example is the decline of slanesh player for a minor nerfs and all those players have jumped to obr,when obr be nerfed they gonna jump to next overpower army most likely tzenth) My example as a casual player that dont play tournaments,i bougth 1400 points of 100% new dispossesed 2 years ago when they were veeeery bad,i didnt mind because i wanted the models. Now with city of sigmar im thinking about buy a luminark that i am not a fan due to how good it is. So even for me that i an a casual player and dont play tournaments the rules sometimes decide my decison about buy a model,i guess for tournaments players is bigger

Only my opinion, i was waiting for this anouncement to buy poenys and phoenys guard to add to my city of sigmar(only dwarfs now) but i was wsiting for this anouncement to see if i choose the new elfs before old.......short answer i gonna get the old. The army look VERY plain. As screen units and very cheap units 50\80 points is fine but for a elite high elf army this isnt good. If they gonna get a elite units of swordmasters with the eltharion armor then i gonna change my opinion. For me is this: Lancers:7\10 Cavalry:4\10 Eltharion:12\10 yes beyond the 10 he is the best mini never released Teclis:6\10 too much plain for a god and the pose is ugly Teclis mount:0\10 the ugliest mini never released in gw history Also for me old elfs: White lions:8\10 Phoenyx guard:8\10 Dragon blades:8\10 Phoenyx:9\10 So i gonna wait to see the full range,if they get some elite epic looking unit is posible ingonna get them,if they get more plain looking archers etc then it isnt for me

If you want for fun i can give you my opinion: T1\overpower tier\broken tier\need huge nerfs in warscrolls and points: -osiar bonereapers:it is beyond me and everyone that i speak as a army can have a 100% free and with no counterplay +1 save,also this army is broken due to stacks of buffs,+1 save free,4 special save(6 from close to hero,+1 with upgraded version of relik,+1 with a spell),reroll all saves,models wont die with a 4+ and then revive models also. Have models with a save of 3 rerolling all faills,with a special save of 4 and THEN if die can come back with a 4+ and even if all this faill katakros gonna bring them back again,is STUPID -slanesh: two words:free sumon. When a model can bring his cost or more back to the table as free sumon we have a balance problem,also the allways attack first is stupid broken T2\overpower armys that need points nerfs -dok:wyches are undercosted yet and the free 6 special save need nerf -big wag: it is new but people allready are seeing how broken it is,have free with 0 counterplay a +1 save+1 hit+1 wound armywide only dont spending wag is broken and need be nerfed -flesh eater:heroes that can sumon units that cost 80% of the hero cost is umbalanced -skaven:need more points nerfs as all is too much underpriced in specialverminlords need cost 60 more points to start to be close to balanced -death:legion of nagash\grif etc etc: free sumon is umbalanced period -tzenth:new tome have bring the stupid build of horrors for 200 points having 999999999 wounds with free sumon,and also a armywide -1 to be hit in melle is broken -slaves to dsrkness: the chaos sorcerer lord with a cost of 110 when have a castellant ability(120points) + the loremaster upgraded buff(120) is stupid and need cost 200 points to be close to balanced, also every unit is good and with the new alegiance buffs are underpriced as the +1 wound from khorne T3:balanced armys -fyreslayers:for me vulkites need cost 120 points, rangued elites need be cheaper,magmadroths need a special save and heartguard zerkers could use a 20 points nerf -idoneths:all is playable(even if idoneths players cry about tralls) and good and that it is being a late 1.0\first 2.0 tome -kharadrons: a but too much overcosted but with good movility -blades of khorne -nurgle -city of sigmar:every dwarf unit need a 20 points reduction and some unit as phoenyx guard could use a increase -ogors: are fast,durable and great at melle -seraphons:with free sumon they are very good but without it are mediocre -stormcast:new sacrosant chamber is very good,edtremis is good,vanguard chapter is underpower and vanilla chamber overcosted -silvaneth:with alariele free sumon and new tree buffs they are great -nigthaunt: great army - glomspite: overall a great army that could be in t2 but due to how random arent reliably Under this tier are other armys that need buffs and i didnt said nothing or some builds of those armys as stormcast with vanguard chapter or city of sigmar with only dwarfs that are in boton tiers with need of buffs This is only my opinion,the tournament data are show in that link and are acurate