Doko

Hearthguard berzerkers have got HUGE nerfs. First they have lost the 6+++if no close to heroes. Have gone of within 10 to wholy within 9" doing them 100% useless due to be melle and have 30 base,every army got changed of withing to wholy witin and got increased the range but us got nerfed the range also And also a nerf of 10 points. Seriously these changes are stupids and make a mediocre army now the worst army of the game

Seems obvious dwarfs got the bin guy and idoneths the seraphons and lumineths guys. In what world irondrakes was overpower and had to be nerfed but now reavers have same damage and havent th penalty for move or is in melle,have a bonus +1 hit and 50%more move than irondrakes.......is how irondrakes with bridge and running and shooting all in the same unit fir same cost. Is a joke how fyreslayers that were a botton army didnt get any buff but idoneths get huge buffs and now have the best infantry and rangued of the game. Oh and the hero also,idoneth get buffs free with no requisites but dwarf must die half unit and isnt priest....... In what world a vulkite with shield and pick have 8'8 damage and 30 base with1" range and cost 170 but namarti have 17 damage with 2" and cost 135? Is a joke tye balance of these two armys,even hearthguard berzerkers cost as namartis but have only 8'8 damage and namarti 18 and 50% extra move This box is a joke,is as a box of goblins vs lumineths have goblins get nerfed every unit and lumineths huge buffs. That have been this box. A army as fyreslayers that havent won any tournament and is useless this edition got nerfed EVERY unit of the tome but meanwhile reavers are now the best rangued unit of the game and namarti the best infantry of the game when idoneths were allready a top 10 army

So a bad unit as vulkites with 30" and 1" range must continue being useless until next edition with luck if this stupid idea of new coherency dissapear? Or get his damage doubled so they can do a ok damage with 5 models because they never gonna can attack with entire the unit? I think is easier put 2" to every 30 base model,also isnt so weird have one hand weapons with 1" when we have some cavalrys lances with only 1" haha

So tye best infantry of the game grave guard,cost 140 and is a 50% slower than namartis,and have the same damage(if we do tye median betwen every mode of namartis the damage is the same than grave guards) So.......same damage,same wounds,same save,but a 50% faster and grave guard cost 140 and namartis must cost less?only vs grave guard is easy see how namartis must cost 150 or more because it is imposible cost the same than grave guard with the same stats but 50% faster and moreover grave guard is deleted of the map due to be slow and zero protection vs shootimg where naartis are fast and inmune to shoot that are the reason that grave guard isnt played

Namartis have 8'8 damage as every other elite against the worst target and a 50%\100% more damage than every other elite against the 90% of the targets and cost 50 less points. Just compare them to dwarfs hammerers,black guard,swordmens of free people,phoenyx guard etc all have around 10 damage that is less than namartis and cost 140\170 pointsbut namartis 120? Must cost 140+ or gonna be broken and also move 6" when the normal is 4\5 and inmune to shootimg for be idoneth. Or a fast compare to vulkites of the same box,180 points for 7 damage with the pick and have same 30 base and only 4 move. I agree every 30 base model must get 2" range but namartis with 2" range must cost 150+ or gonna be overpower

Namartis got 2" range,i hope our vulkites that have 10 models and 30 base as namarti got 2" also......

I dont get this discusion yet. Dragon spam list havent got any 5\0 or won any tournament yet so it isnt broken at competitive. Dragon spam that is a competitive list wining vs casual lists isnt nothing new as every other competitive list of every army stomp casual lists of other armys. I dont get the problem,if dragon must be nerfed because they are too much strongth,then following tournament data we must nerf as other 20 armys before that have got any 5\0 because they are more broken that a army that his best result is a 4\1. And if dragon must be nerfed for stomp noobs or casual lists then we must nerf the competitives lists of every other army also. As these fix wont happen then the topic havent sense and dragons are fine or even overcosted if arent spammed at competitive and for casuals nobody care because never gonna be balanced a good list vs a bad list

I hope vulkites have rangue 2" also or then gonna be as the hero where idoneths get the big stick and dwarfs the short. Also namartis now have the stats of 150 points units but cost only 120.......

I chosen option 4, buy with bundles I am a veeeery perfectionist and slow builder miniatures dude that need around 8 hours to build(not painting,only build)a single fyreslayer hearthguard per example. So i usually have my pile of shaming growing bigger as i buy faster than i build. Due to this reason i usually allway i try dont buy nothing but when i see bundles of miniatures or armys that i like i cant avoid buying it because as economist that i am,my head only think how i gonna skip this bundle with miniatures that i love at 50% disscount when is posible in a future i gonna buy them and must pay the usual 20% discount of the store loosing money. I think i only bougth out of bundles to krondys,dwarfs hammerers and wild ryders in the last 3 years.

My wallet would hurts but would be so cool lol

Yes this is the best answer to the original post

Yes i know,but maybe he is a priest only in lore and not in rules and this skill that have been seen is his pseudo prayer. But i realllly hope that he be a priest because to me seems so much funnier to play this mellepriest even two together than the tipical master at omen and smitter

We are guessing that he is a priest. But if he is priest he gonna be a fun but worse runesmitter. If he isnt prist he is useless and only playable as proxy of runemaster(same model with only a small change in the helmet lol) I hope he be priest but i wont get my hopes high....

I am guessin he is priest because even being priest he gonna be at best a situational pick betwen smitter and him,if he isnt priest..........he gonna be playable as proxy of runemaster because then he would useless

At first glance this new hero is useless. Have huge requisites and too small range for the buff. Of course if he is priest and cost the same than a runemaster or runesmitter and you wont use the deep strike of runesmitter then you could bring the new hero for the extra ultra hard to use buff because you are bringing him for be priest and id this effect activate great but isnt his main use and only a extra. But i hope every priest get a huge reduce in points because the actual 140 is for 2.0 when we could chant 3 prayers(1 of scroll,1 of the fs book and 1 endless fs prayer). For 3.0 where we only chant one prayer the cost must be something as 80\100 see seraphon priest with a cost of 80 and chant one prayer as us

Only if vulkites are changed to 2" range in weapons,reduced to one wound and reduced to 100 points this hero would have any use and even then isnt great

Ironjawz say you hello,they have one cheap hero that gives +1 attack to a unit with 0 requisites or luck or counterplay,only choose one unit and have +1 attack

Great lore and pics but useless hero. Idoneth have zero counterplay and requisites. Fureslayer hero need be used at start of figth phase so you cant even use it at first turn. You need 5 models died at 12" and then you can for only one phase buff to a unit wholy within 12 again? So i cant use it at first turn,then need that 5 models melle with 2 wounds each(a total of 10 wounds killed is needed to activate the buff)at 12" of a priest that dont want be at melle and then after all this i can buff one unit for onky one phase and again at 12" of the priest. If were 5 models died inentire map and then you can use the buff each turn could be playable but this is useless Oh and only for melle weapons and only 3 units,meanwhile ironjaws have one hero that give this same +1 damage with 0 requisites and for every unit. Its a joke as it have so huge requisites to give a +1 damage but then the ironjawz hero have 0 requisites for a better version of this buff.

So other overpower buffstick that cant faill,dont spend cp and have zero counterplay as the ironjawz hero....... Meanwhile fs hero gonna be some prayer at 3+ doing worse buffs than only one of these for sure

I wish you are rigth,i would love get new dwarfs and i love soups as are soooo fun to do lists and play and collect. To get it better i would love get kharadrons in so i have a reason to buy some haha. But i would be happy with any dwarf release i dont mind for what facction

Yes +1 this. Is absurd this post. Data have showed us that dragon spam havent won anything,also fullminators and raptors are around 7th in rankings. So we need others 6 posts about armys more absurds than dragons or any sc unit before take serious this post But we would need a new post about how huuuuuugely useless and overcosted are krondys\karazai. Monsters with 600 points nameds that cant get enhacement,havent auras,co or any utility,have 0 protection against spells or mortals so die with 18 mortals,have a maw krusha damage output but with 200 extra cost etc, But i dont see people sad about these new dragons that are umplayable or the others 75 sc scrolls that arent competitives. But 2 lists that sc have to be playable with raptors\fullmis\dragons and people want them nerfed even if sc rigth now arent even at the top5 in tournaments even with tome3.0 vs tomes 2.0 Ironjaws have many betters data results and i dont see people asking for nerfs to them

Hnnn your title is saying that the unit is absurd,nothing about npe. And yes the winning tournament record is the best measure to see if some unit is broken. If a unit is being spammed but cant win a tournament then or it isnt broken or there are many more broken units in the game(as gargants,morathi,every lumineth unit,horrors,belakor,almost any seraphon unit). The fact are that 340 for his stats are too much and they arent winning any tournament even triying be abused with spam builds etc. But i can agree that are npe for a army that dont can screen or deal with first turn charge but then every ironjawz book is bigger problem then

I gonna get two fyreslayers halves for me and the sushis for my brother haha

Yes imposible to deal with them.....but since his launch they have been very popular with many dragons list in every tournament and so far i think they havent won any tournament yet? Many 4\1 but they havent won anithing. But i see many sc and citys lists that go 5\0 and all have 4\6 fullminators. If sc have any unit broken is fullmis and not dragons

Btw i didnt know if have been said allready but the article said: The box contains 43 miniatures, a token sheet, and nine warscroll cards, so.....9 warscrolls?idoneths have 4(hero,shark,balds melle and rangued) and fyreslayers 4(hero,vulkites,berzerker melle and zerker rangued) so 8 scrolls in total,i guess fyreslayers are getting any getting scroll for diferent options of weapons of vulkites? something as one scroll for dual axes and other for shields that have many diferents habilitys? so we could have some extra scroll even if we dont get any new model