LordPrometheus

I'm expecting that it will. The old tome is just a hodgepodge of random warscrolls with almost zero synergies, but the tomes have gotten WAY better in the last 3 years.

Super exciting news! I'm pumped. July battletome, finally! Ballistas up 30 points... I wonder if they get any changes? Hopefully they use this opportunity to revisit all the named heroes and actually make them worth using, cuz right now, they're all basically garbage warscrolls. (I'm looking at you, Vandus for 280 points that does basically nothing)

The problem is our bodies die far too quickly and we can't regen them fast enough to protect our heroes, and they don't hit hard enough unless we get lucky and wave of terror before we get hit. It's not just you. NH get absolutely obliterated by the raw damage that's out there right now. A 4+ unrendable save doesn't mean very much these days. It would be fine if our model return was better and more reliable, but it's just nowhere near good enough to keep up. Especially now that the game is pushing us to MSU, most of the time the unit will be obliterated before you can even use your abilities to return models.

They would never do that. Too many people would be crying. But it's okay to ****** over SCE and NH players apparently lol

Agreed. Start her on the board and use the bodyguards ability on her. Make them come to you, then use her flying to counter charge and blow up what needs killing.

I'm pretty sure they'll be released separately, and my hunch is they will be upped to squads of 5 like Evocators lol

I don't remember any cries to nerf them though. Not like Slaanesh a couple years ago. Now THAT was OP and flat out oppressive. Strong doesn't mean OP. I agree they are very strong, and there's nothing wrong with that. OP is pre-nerf Changehost/Slaanesh/Kroak infinite mortal wound spam.

You're exactly right. IDK and DoK have been VERY strong for pretty much all of 2.0, but they were never "OP". I'd love a book written in that vein. I think Mawtribes is a good template, since SCE want to be elite.

I don't think it's too much to ask for Stormcast to just be a good, solid, B+ tier army that doesn't get rolled by Seraphon, DoK, and Tzeentch. I'd like to feel I have a fighting chance in a tournament. I don't want OP, because OP gets nerfed.

It's not in the Core PDF. Its in the full Rulebook that the Youtubers who got Dominion early have. Matched Play battlepacks is a section there that is not in the Core PDF.

Just chiming in to reiterate what others have said. We don't get to benefit from a good chunk of the new good stuff (All out Defense, garrison, Mystic shield, Monsters). We are literally (currently) the only army that I know of that cannot use some of the best Core Rules, and that's a shame. The optimist in me says this means a new tome is in the works, or at the very least a reworking of how Ethereal works. But after reading the Core Rules, I don't think I'll be playing my ghosties until that tome or a updated Ethereal shows up. We're already a bottom tier army, and this will just make everyone else better while we get nothing. Fingers crossed!

Yeah that's kinda lame... Can't pick the Prime in the sky. Sad day. Agree that Yndrasta is really good. Currently she's an auto include for me, but of course, we need to see our new tome. Hopefully we won't be waiting too long.

Yndrasta seems like a beast, especially if you pair her with bodyguards that you can bring back for free. Hopefully our dusty Prime will get a better warscroll and a FNP like his ladyfriend.

Castellant plus All Out Defense gives us a 1+ save lol. Basically ignore rend 1.

That would be absolutely TERRIBLE. Scions is THE signature SCE ability.

If your predictions hold true, then my entire Stormcast collection will be on eBay in a few months time. You are correct that GW really seems to listen to all the whiners with some ridiculous hate-bon3r for SCE. It baffles me. I'm more optimistic than you are though lol. I think SCE will actually be a fun, viable army to play in 3rd edition.

Dude I love this LOL 🤣

Dude... check out the Kastellai buffs they get. Also, we need MORE cosmetic weapons in AOS, not less. It's way too easy to build the "wrong weapon" and not be able to do decent damage. This removes the noob trap and allows you to just build what you think is cool. This is a GREAT move. I hope 3.0 moves towards this completely. Having to try to work out the "best" weapon for troops with half a dozen options is tedious and unfun.

A new battletome should be a priority

Same here. If not, my Stormcast are going onto Ebay.

Vince summed up absolutely everything I was thinking about this horrible warscroll for Gardus.

You're exactly right, and it's just further proof that AoS needs to adopt 40k's "Look Out Sir!" rules. That alone would make NH FAR better in the current OP shooting meta.

Dude, how did you get that sweet teal color? I love it!

I believe as long as you have the correct base size and make it very clear to your opponent what the model counts as, it should never be an issue.

That is always allowed, mask or no. Only the most insane losers would make a stink about you playing him as a generic hero, and those aren't the kind of people you want to play with anyway. Feel free to use him however you like. EDIT: Assuming the base size is the same, of course!