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So sad with Harvester change
Harvester's ability was essentially the same from 2.0 to 3.0 (only its range was increased to 6"), but now it's is just made useless with GWs half-assed copy/pasting abilities with "At the end of the combat phase". -
1 hour ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said:
You can always do a kitbash version of Immortis with swords or Stalkers with shields and just run them as whatever.
Speaking of kitbash, anyone managed to magnetize them or make a different action pose?
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15 minutes ago, JerekKruger said:
So, after watching a few reviews of the new Battletome, I finally have in to my long standing desire to own Katakros and bought him and a box of Mortek Guard (helped that I found an online store offering 20% discount on GW prices, but also using old GW prices so actually more like 25% discount).
I'm considering ordering the Vanguard box too. What are peoples' opinion on it? The saving seem pretty good, though I know the Soulreaper is probably the least good Mortisan. Also not sure how good Deathriders are, although I do like the sculpts.
Beyond that I'm going to pick up a Liege Kavalos, a few Mortisans, and possibly a Crawler?
Try to find Mortisan Tithe Echelon Ossiarch Bonereapers box, there should be some on eBay.
I think ElementGames website has a nice package, 1x Liege hero and 3x Deathriders
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1 hour ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said:
That's the real balancing act in OBR. The book is pretty well designed in that way, you constantky have to make choices when list building. A lot of stuff in the book feels powerful, but it's absolutely not clear which options are the "best".
I think the Petrifex list will be popular and strong, but occasionally still lose on objectives because of the low body count
True, but it would make me really happy to see at least 2 viable options, few % winrate difference
1 hour ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said:Heal yes, resurrect no.
Thank you, missed the part of 3 wounds or less...
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8 hours ago, Expendable Grunt said:
Bit of a memey Petrifex list, but maybe it could work for 1000:
Boneshaper (General, First spell unbindable, double cast heal)
Immortis Guard x6
Stalkers x3
Stalkers x3
Soulstealer Carrion
1000 points on the dot.
Low model count, but the carrion can turn off enemy hordes when it comes to scoring objectives. The Immortis and Stalkers both have battle tactics associated with them, and the whole army minus the Boneshaper (who is bodyguarded to heck by the Immortis) takes -1 damage.
Nice lineup
I was thinking of similar lineup with some Morghast harbingers for 2k pts list. Given my recent discovery that Soulmason is a loremaster, I would include him as well for versatility.Katakros would be a great swap instead of Boneshaper
Also worried about low body count...
P.S. people have mixed feelings Morghast, mostly due to lower HP, but Harbingers can be used to strike shooters (unleash hell wont work against Morghast)
P.P.S. you can heal and ress a Morghast, yes? I don't know if its intentional, books is talking mostly about Immortis and Necrostalkers when it comes to healing...
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On 4/8/2023 at 12:00 AM, Sception said:
honestly i don't know why the mason is a loremaster. would still be good without it, & would make vok more special in comparison.
Apologies for silly question, what does that mean ? I recall him being able to take any spell from the allegiance lore
@typos...
edit2: checked leaked scrolls and saw that lore section doesnt have written about Nagash/Arkhan knowing all lore - now it is written on individual scrolls
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I'm afraid that we might get day 0 faq/nerf since a lot of our abilities are some pretty great debuffs: -WS, -charge, -deploy, stopping units from receiving commands
Potentially we can go with ease to -2 WS? Also, does -charge stacks too? That could be -6 on charge, no sweat
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4 hours ago, Warbossironteef said:
New Cogs is changed to rerolls of casting or charging. REROLLS. 40 POINTS.
Okay time to make room for 40 points. So good. Every army will want it. No idea why they made it 40...
Please, link for those leaks
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Are Grimghast Reapers incorrectly priced? The book says 160 🙄
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Gotta say, I enjoyed the Warhammer weekly and kinda agreed with 90% of the stuff there.- Lady O could've gotten a command ability (like other Mortarchs) for the price we are paying for her and calling her a warmaster.- Black coach certainly needs a run/charge or pts cost reduction- Kurdoss seems unfinished... Given the small fluff lore on picture and empty space on warscroll...- Scriptor needs a change in some way.
- Touching all our models 3 times per turn, minimum...But overall, these are refreshing change - a unique battletome; units with "weak" stats with awesome allegiance abilities.Someone said that bringing NHs as allies is really bad, but you lose Ethereal status and can use defensive modifiers now 😂
After watching a weekly video, I made a list inspired by it for a friendly match against Seraphons:Spoiler- Army Faction: Nighthaunt- Subfaction: The Emerald Host- Grand Strategy: Hold the Line- Triumph: BloodthirstyLEADERSKrulghast Cruciator (150)**- Artefacts of Power: Lightshard of the Harvest MoonKurdoss Valentian (210)***Guardian of Souls (150)****- Spells: Seal of ShyishSpirit Torment (115)****Knight of Shrouds on Ethereal Steed (155)****- General- Command Traits: Spiteful Spirit- Artefacts of Power: Soulfire RingReikenor The Grimhailer (190)*****- Spells: Soul CageBATTLELINEChainrasps (110)*Chainrasps (110)*Grimghast Reapers (160)**Grimghast Reapers (160)**Spirit Hosts (125)***Spirit Hosts (125)***Spirit Hosts (125)****OTHERChainghasts (95)*****CORE BATTALIONS- *Hunters of the Heartlands- **Vanguard- ***Vanguard- ****Warlord- *****VanguardTOTAL POINTS: 1980/2000
Wondering if I grab an Arcane tome for an additional spell, Shademist or something.I believe that my opponent will play Thunder Lizards, maybe an additional HotH battalion?
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Where can I find all these changes/leaks?
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@Bayul God... It was also written on the pts change stream
Thank you!
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21 hours ago, Landohammer said:
-Lauka Vai was fantastic at tanking scary units. Despite dying to Sentinels, she actually did well in some practice games prior to the tourney so I am gonna continue to use her.
I might have missed something, but can we ally with soulblight?
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56 minutes ago, dmorley21 said:
I run a similar list with Olynder in Emerlad Host. A few things:
First, I’ll second that Bladegheists are better in 10s than 20s.
I always tried running small groups of Hexwraiths so Olynder’s command ability could work on multiple units but in gaming have found that the unit of 5 gets deleted too quickly to be effective bodyguards. A unit of 10 serves me a lot better for that purpose, even with it being inefficient for attacking.
Fianlly, I think you need another hammer unit.
Luckily, just going 10 and 5 Hexes and 10 and 10 Blades should do the trick.
Good point for hexes, I thought 3 of them to spread out LO dmg "evenly" but they will be wiped out by direct attacks.
Edit: as for hammer units: decent, strong, and "cheaper" combo is SH and ST, but they will be slower
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59 minutes ago, Ranzou said:
20 bladegheists is a problem. Coherency problem, base size problem, survivability problem.
I thought that 20 models with 1" reach weren't good on AoS 2.0, but nowadays with new rules it became even worse.
As for me 10men are ideal.
Why do you take cogs here? +1 to charge is' so good, +1 cast for only two casters is too pricey.
Why dont you reinforce rasps into 30 men?
Good points! 2x10 BR would be better, more charge chances.
Cogs were taken as a filler, 50pts left.20 rasps is a bit small size, for more rasps something additionally needs to go
Back to drawing board
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15 minutes ago, Ranzou said:
You misread battalion rules. There are no mention of general here.
There are only two types of heroes - with ANY count of wounds and with LOWER than 10 wounds.
First are commanders, second are sub-commanders.
So - one hero cannot be commander and sub-commander together, you need to decide which one.
Also one hero cannot be sommander to more than one battalion.
@Ranzou Glad that I came to the right place to ask - I was under the impression that Commander=General...
Yes, I got that that classification and requirements from Icons.
I am trying to make a list for AoS3.0, kinda like Emerald host - it feels that Lady O needs to be there as a General.
What do you think of this?
Allegiance: Nighthaunt
- Procession: Emerald Host
- Grand Strategy: Hold the Line
- Triumphs:
Leaders
Lady Olynder, Mortarch of Grief (215) in Warlord
- General
- Lore of the Underworlds: Soul Cage
Krulghast Cruciator (120) in Warlord
Reikenor the Grimhailer (165) in Warlord
- Lore of the Underworlds: Shademist
Spirit Torment (115) in Vanguard
- Artefact: Pendant of the Fell Wind
Battleline
5 x Hexwraiths (150) in Warlord
5 x Hexwraiths (150) in Vanguard
5 x Hexwraiths (150) in Vanguard
20 x Chainrasp Horde (190) in Hunters of the Heartlands
- Reinforced x 1
10 x Chainrasp Horde (95) in Hunters of the Heartlands
Units
20 x Bladegheist Revenants (380) in Vanguard
- Reinforced x 1
Behemoths
Black Coach (220)
Endless Spells & Invocations
Chronomantic Cogs (45)
Core Battalions
Warlord
Vanguard
Hunters of the Heartlands
Total: 1995 / 2000
Reinforced Units: 2 / 4
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 117
What would be a good enhancement pick here? I am leaning toward spells for some reason, would get more options i suppose...
P.S. sorry for the wall of text - any suggestion is always welcome
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Got a question regarding new battalions:
Given that they need a specific unit in them (can't be in two places at the same time), is it possible that with Reikenor's procession we are able to pick both Warlord and Command entourage (or any other that needs a general)? -
It is 1.5k battle with some minor pluses from previous matches (additional points)
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If I may bother with another question regarding this particular battle/plan of mine - I am planning to hold the point and fight/heal rasps as much as I can.
I expect a lot of HGB units
Current list is:
KoSES, GoS, DBH, LO40x rasps, 3x SH
Was thinking to squeeze Arkhan somehow as an ally for healing boost and Years spell and great command ability so I can bombard potential magmadroth hero with soul drain
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I dont remember scenario name but I know its instawin if you control both objectives
Thank you for graphic presentation! I forgot about 0.5" rule for charging...
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Thanks, that explains it well
Also, since the scenario doesn't allow me to leave my main point undefended - is it possible to perform charge in these circumstances?A line of rasps is pinned by an opponent unit - can Spirit Hosts, that are behind rasps on +3" distance charge into enemy?
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Hey guys, I got a question regarding Soul Cage.
We ran into situation when Fyreslayers (Hermdar) used command ability on a squad that I used this spell
Are effects of these abilities nullified or one of them gets a priority?
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3 hours ago, Aaranis said:
The Dolorous Guard wouldn't work easily with the Executioner just for a reason of space. You'll already have your Executioner clumped with Spirit Hosts to make his Battalion work, you'll have difficulties fitting 5 Hexwraiths within 3" of him. If you go Dolorous Guard, pick another General. We talked a lot about Olynder for this role because she's quite frail by herself being a delicate lady and all, so 20W of Hexwraiths can do her wonders. She'll be able to resurrect them easily too with her Command Ability. If you go that route the Spirit Hosts benefit from this too.
As you said you may have trouble in some missions, that's normal, there's no list that fits all the missions perfectly. If you roll the mission where Heroes hold objectives your opponent will cry for example. However 10 Chainrasps may as well not exist, at least 20 in a single unit is already better. Think about what Battalion you wish to work around and you'll find the points.
Concerning Spells and Artefacts, if you go Lord Executioner you pretty much are obligated to use the Sword of Judgement (Hero/Monster hunter) or the Blade of Endings (I didn't know that one) for a more polyvalent Executioner. With your second artefact the Beacon of Nagashizzar is a good option, or the Pendant of Fell Winds for additional movement. If you pick the Brooch you can't use it with the Executioner though, you can only pick one Realm. Soul Cage and Shademist are great.
Hope that helped !
It certainly helped! I felt the same about KoS-with-horse that he is an odd one - that's why I was considering Spirit Torment. Rerolling hits of 1 is good.
The problem with meat on the field might be solved if I lose Knight. That's 120pts plus I can sacrifice filler spell to reach 140pts. That would give me another chainrasp squad and glaivewraiths.
@The_Dudemeister thank you, didn't know about this tool.
There's a quote on pg54:
Now I know many of you don’t care much about the Lord Executioner and the Executioner Horde battalion and since I don’t care much for tournements I might be all noob about this but have any of you considered arming the Lord Executioner with the Blade of Endings? Combined with the EH battalion that turns the LE into a mean fella with 3 attacks at+2 dam for each 5+ to hit or 6 to wound? Combine that with Lady Olynder’s spell and its 4+ to hit.
Not sure about the math here but the Blade of Endings alone gives him a max damage output of 24! At rend -2.
I am not good with this math as well, but it looked that it could be used on everything unlike SoJ on heroes/monsters.
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A nice change for Lady O - 20 by 20 pts reduction is always welcome
Again, need a bit of check regarding army.
Based on what @Nasrod and @Undeadly advised me, I made some 1500pts list (please be forgiving to my noobism):
Lady Olynder (200)Guardian of Souls (140)
Knight of Shroud on Ethereal Steed (120) (general)
Lord Executioner (80) (potential general)
3x Spirit Hosts (360)
2x Hexwraiths (280)
1x Chainrasp (80) (points filler)
Dolorous Guard battalion (120)
Executioner Horde (100)
+can fit some spell - reaper or gravetide
EH play provided me a ton of fun (there was an older list for 1k play with EH and Lady O), so I was thinking to include it here. DG looks like a toon of fun to play. I would have to resurrection from GoS and general and most of my army has more than 1hp. GoS also gives wound roll for Spirits plus ress for Hexwraiths if they find themselves a bit far from general by running over to some units, until they retreat over some units again 😃
For the front line battles, EH LE will be somewhat unkillable (spirit hosts, grief buff). General and GoS should give Lady O a bit of a breathing room, hoping that opponent will try to go for those first.
My fear is that battle line is thin, might get overwhelmed. Since I don't have enough units, I would have to always engage on objectives if #units on it is in play. 10x Chainrasp guys are probably laughable to see on the field, but I intend to use them as gap filler on battle line or to stop enemy movement or to give look-out-sir for some heroes.
Also, being indecisive about artifacts, lores, and heroes (somewhat). I believe that optimal picks are Shademist and Spectral Tether/Soul Cage; I lean toward Beacon for GoS or Aetherquarts Brooch since I intend to spam those points for my units multiple times on hero phase. But, there might be other possibilities (I am still struggling with synergies), such as blade of judgement. I used this one with EH and LE and made a quick work of friend's Dread Saurian. I also read about that EH LE with Blade of endings and grief buff is crazy.
Regarding heroes - I thinking about Spirit Torment (additional heal/ress during battleshock phase) instead of KoSoES. Knight gives a nice command ability (though you can use only one ability per phase). Also, losing knight - I lose general with Rulser of Spirit host (which might still get taken by LE).
Any feedback is highly appreciated.
Ossiarch Bonereapers Discussion - 3rd edition
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Posted · Edited by anorek
Truth being told, I've sent an email to GW (not to much disgruntled) regarding this change
I believe that change was needed, rally/heal in every phase is too much - but they could change it, not kill it to the point that people won't find model usable.
They could have made a rule that you could try to return models in battleshock phase, all killed throughout the current turn. Or maybe something akin to Black coach or Auric Flamekeeper with D6 counter.
@edit: typos