JackStreicher

We 2. yet the design does not allow to play a nice list that is strong. Or that is not Nurgle/Khorne heavy. do you have a link to the different lists?

If anybody feels like testing the rule-suggestions as well, which I'll from now on call "The Mortal Legions of Chaos", then feel free to use these rules:

It is one kind of List that wins while the rest is just bad. Win rates say nothing about the health a book/army, the only statement it makes is that the army has at least one viable combo (which has been discussed thoroughly in this thread).

I‘ll play the next games like this and report on the results

- Marks always get the non-general effect, independent of any hero. - The General Mark effect triggers for any hero. - All Cultists and Darkoath Units get the undivided keyword - 1 in every 4 units can be chosen from BoK, MoN, HoS, DoT if the unit has the mortal keyword. This unit gets the StD Keyword. - Allied Greater daemons Get the Aura Ability. (If there‘s anything that‘s inspiring then it is a greater daemons) - Knights must choose every combat phase which weapon they use. - Chaos Warriors can mix and match their weapon options - Daemon Princes become wizards with one spell, Khorne gets no spell and Tzeentch can cast twice. - Cultist Command trait that allows an additional unbind instead grants the ability to cast one additional spell for wizards. Non wizards become wizards. - Cultists can perform 2 rituals a battle round: The Sacrifice one at the beginning of the herophase, the move an endless spell one at the end of the herophase. - The Shrine Battallion makes the prayers go off on a 2+, on a 6+ The current Battalion effect triggers as well. - Varanguard get two versions : Circles of Ruin Varanguard, Varanguard. The circle one costs 250-300 pts, the normal one costs 200-250 points. tada! The book would be very fun to play, strong (but not broken) and versatile. Additionally it would make me buy all those mortal units

Like the whole book.

Dito

To me it looks like a 40mm base ^^

It‘s a mistake. The app is incredibly buggy and incomplete.

He is right however, there are two extremely competetive playstyles: Khorne DP, hero with MoN, Plaguetouched Battallion and some Knights, heroes and such. OR Khorne DP, a hero with MoN, Plaguetouched Battallion and 200 Marauders

That‘s a hard one. against a lot of Matchups Petrifex is too good. In others however you really need to be a Petri. the only thing that’s always a ****** move is to play Nagash in Petrifex imo.

the whole background is a watermark (Artwork of the Hammer guy)

that made me think of an old 40K Meme:

What if we get a hammerer cavalry? (Dual kit with the riders)

I‘d recommend to do the following: Depending on the Mark you‘ll give them you could use the following models: -Blightkings, Bloodwarriors, conversion of Melusai for Slaanesh, Chaos Warriors with Kairic Acolyte Weapons for Tzeentch

On the topic of S2D having missed a mark I guess the most frustrating part is that GW just ignores it and they don‘t say „hey guys, maybe we were a little too tame with S2D, check out this new FAQ with slight reworks“ - everyone would be happy! So we‘ll have to wait another 2-5 years until there might be changes for us.

@Agent of Chaos how did you get 5cp? ^^ you can only get cp via battallions and you can only buy one. apart from that I made similar experiences. (Yet I have to add that the Chaos Lord on foot is a super hero slayer)

@LuminethMage very true. And we get to see a vanari auralan dawn hammerer

Yep, included in the (custom) rules. =} I‘d really like for s.o. to test them and give me some feedback about whether the army felt more interesting and more on par with other armies:

Nvm I re-reread it XD... yeah it's very odd... If that means phoenixes are getting a redesign then I am all in for it. Otherwise... did they mockingly call it a phoenix in order to not spoil anything?

100% this

I had to read the text twice too. They talk about the Phoenix on the shield.

Yes. I‘ve put some typos in (I just realized) and I didn‘t clarify that allied GREATER DAEMONS also receive the Aura of Chaos Allegiance Ability. It‘d be cool if GW added an rules as I posted them to a WD. My main goal was to give S2D a more meaningful interaction with Chaos as a whole while increasing their Power as an elite faction by a little.

Something I've been working on. I'll test this asaic. Feedback after testing is appreciated Chaos Resurgent.pdf