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yeah but you expect the complexity to equal better results when your playing them which is not what happen when you play KO and trying to use boats to do it. like DoK are complex and harder to master, but when you do you usually end up smashing face and in casual play, people like drinking beer and rolling dices without thinking to hard

there rule set are kind of wonky and you have to remember a lot them when playing KO which still lead to less then steller mechanics and gameplay, they are definitely harder to play in a casual setting. also they are universally consider weak at the moment that even casual player are aware of it. if you compare them to say Ironjawz, who are not exactly a top tier army, they have such easy to remember rules and mechanics and are considered fun to play that they even show up in tournament because people like playing them casually in that setting

well they said they botch the tome so it definitely not a proper battletome by any regards

I am pretty sure that the last Errata made KO worser, and that lead to a lot people posting on their Facebook page about buffing them, during the GHB 2019 suggestion time beside when KO was released I believe GW said that they where going to expand the KO range because they sold so well.

Well the mini durthu guys have bows but I guess they don’t count

curious do they even sell the Warpfire teams anymore?

I go on a limb and it Sylvaneath vs Fyreslayer and it going to be called Fyrewood

I doubt they have enough sanity to taunt their enemies with a random chair that they themselves have no idea where it came from

To be frank comparing the throne to say the Herdstone, Feculent Nurgle tree, Loonshrine, and the gloomtide, it is probably the weakest terrain feature design-wise. But in the end it just a terrain feature, it just there to sit still and look pretty while giving you free buff. it not meant to be this piece that display amazing CAD sculpting technique and be the centerpiece representation of your army. it just there on the battlefield because you are heavily incentivize (almost force in a way) to field one it just the lack of anything new and interesting that maybe it lackluster show a bit more but don't blame the throne for it.

well there also Deathless Courtier saves but whatever I more surprise that they made it more risky for the Skaven hero to supercharge Warp lighting if an enemy dispels it.

yeah but they usually at least tease us that there is more to come though. of course their is hope that there could be stuff at LVO in the end. past experience would state that if there is a significant model releases coming GW usually have their graphic department make a trailer before revealing the Battletome.

I do like the Skullmob horde but it doesn't look like 60 Grot die fast enough for it to be useful Skragrott, The Loonking (220) - General - Lore of the Moonclans : The Hand of Gork Madcap Shaman (80) - Artefact : Moonface Mommet - Lore of the Moonclans : Itchy Nuisance Loonboss with Giant Cave Squig (100) - Artefact : Aetherquartz Brooch UNITS 1 x Boggleye (48) 1 x Shroomancer (48) 1 x Brewgit (48) 1 x Scaremonger (48) 1 x Spiker (48) 60 x Stabbas (360) - Pokin Spears & Moon Shields - 9 x Barbed Nets - 1 x Moonclan Flag Bearers - 1 x Badmoon Icon Bearers 5 x Sporesplatta Fanatics (120) 10 x Loonsmasha Fanatics (280) 40 x Stabbas (260) - Stabbas & Moon Shields 5 x Sneaky Snufflers (70) 6 x Squig Herd (70) BATTALIONS Gobbapalooza (110) ENDLESS SPELLS Scrapskuttle's Arachnacauldron (50) Geminids of Uhl-Gysh (40) TOTAL: 2000/2000 EXTRA COMMAND POINTS: 1 WOUNDS: 171 LEADERS: 3/6 BATTLELINES: 2 (3+) BEHEMOTHS: 0/4 ARTILLERY: 0/4 ARTEFACTS: 2/2 ALLIES: 0/400 I am also want to try a list with the Trog Hag Allegiance: Destruction - Mortal Realm: Ghur LEADERS Troggoth Hag (380) - Artefact : Gryph-feather Charm Skragrott, The Loonking (220) - General - Lore of the Moonclans : The Hand of Gork Madcap Shaman (80) - Artefact : Moonface Mommet - Lore of the Moonclans : Squig Lure Loonboss with Giant Cave Squig (100) UNITS 60 x Stabbas (360) - Pokin Spears & Moon Shields - 9 x Barbed Nets - 1 x Moonclan Flag Bearers - 1 x Badmoon Icon Bearers 15 x Boingrot Bounderz (300) 5 x Sneaky Snufflers (70) 6 x Squig Herd (70) 6 x Squig Herd (70) 5 x Squig Hoppers (90) BATTALIONS Squig Rider Stampede (140) ENDLESS SPELLS Scrapskuttle's Arachnacauldron (50) Geminids of Uhl-Gysh (40) Scuttletide (30) TOTAL: 2000/2000 EXTRA COMMAND POINTS: 1 WOUNDS: 166 LEADERS: 4/6 BATTLELINES: 1 (3+) BEHEMOTHS: 1/4 ARTILLERY: 0/4 ARTEFACTS: 2/2 ALLIES: 0/400

it actually created by the bad moon every time it show up in the sky it rain down meteors onto the ground and apparently they just end up moon shape in the end for the Throne, the Ghoul king probably just use magic to animate the bone into a chair shape throne and the pedestal area just happens to be there

Well the beastmen actually do lug that monolith everywhere they go and into battle the moonshrine is actually created on the battlefield before hand via meteor fall by the da bad moon

hmm I may have mixed the two battalion up

I would not know how they would put Skyre acolyte in considering how hard it is to get a unit of them in the field, rat swarm are the other thing I don't know if they will keep. I have a feeling that a lot of stuff won't make it into the tome.

maybe they are the Serfs

thinking about doing a Gobbapalooza build, my plans is just hand of mork 60 superbuff grots with battleshock immunity, rerolling charges, fanatics, and +1 attack at the enemy. and if they all die I hope I can roll that 4 to get them all back when I need them Allegiance: Destruction - Mortal Realm: Hysh LEADERS Skragrott, The Loonking (220) - General - Lore of the Moonclans : The Hand of Gork Madcap Shaman (80) - Artefact : Moonface Mommet - Lore of the Moonclans : Itchy Nuisance Loonboss (70) - Artefact : Aetherquartz Brooch Loonboss (70) - Artefact : Lens of Refraction UNITS 1 x Boggleye (48) 1 x Shroomancer (48) 1 x Brewgit (48) 1 x Scaremonger (48) 1 x Spiker (48) 60 x Stabbas (360) - Pokin Spears & Moon Shields - 9 x Barbed Nets - 1 x Moonclan Flag Bearers - 1 x Badmoon Icon Bearers 20 x Stabbas (130) - Stabbas & Moon Shields 5 x Sporesplatta Fanatics (120) 5 x Sporesplatta Fanatics (120) 5 x Loonsmasha Fanatics (140) 20 x Shootas (130) - 3 x Barbed Nets BATTALIONS Gobbapalooza (110) Moonclan Skrap (120) ENDLESS SPELLS Balewind Vortex (40) Scrapskuttle's Arachnacauldron (50) TOTAL: 2000/2000 EXTRA COMMAND POINTS: 2 WOUNDS: 153 LEADERS: 4/6 BATTLELINES: 3 (3+) BEHEMOTHS: 0/4 ARTILLERY: 0/4 ARTEFACTS: 3/3 ALLIES: 0/400

Umm the Archreagant hero from the Box doesn't count? TBH I would have at least hope a named hero character (Ushoran) or plastic Varghulf

I am pretty sure everyone ideally wants a Gloomspite or DoK type release. But I think FEC have such a small model range to begin with is not helping.

yeah some of the models are like 15-20 years old, it like craftworld eldar bad

yeah but their MO is usually to give a sentence in the end of the article that there are more things to come for these two armies. the Preorder article didn't have one.

well Nighthaunt and Stormcast where before BoC. I think from BoC and onward that they decided that Terrain feature where going to be a thing

it probably them reusing CAD files that having the same design. Granted the Endless spell seem to stuff they make quickly and on the fly.

I think it because AoS has a lack Terrain pieces so it there way of making battlefield more colorful