EccentricCircle

I really like it. Its great to finally see a female dwarf from GW, even if she is for 40K! Hopefully this means that AoS will follow, whenever we next get new dwarves.

You know Moon Knight and he's a warhammer fan?! How did he feel about the tomb kings being squatted?

I'll echo what others have said. In terms of actual usable stats and mechanics, there is no real advantage to trying to convert from Soulbound vs trying to convert from mass battle scale AoS stats. In both cases you will be looking at a profile which describes how things behave and having to pick D&D stats that match, or evoke the same feel. Its all doable, but starting from the RPG won't be any easier than starting from the wargame. Where getting the books is most likely to be of use would be as inspiration, background, lore etc for you and your players. Even if converting an actual adventure would be too much work, you could still use locations, ideas etc. with little difficulty. Its also a great set of books to read up on the world, and what adventuring parties do in the mortal realms.

Shucks. That's an odd choice. Thanks for the update.

What's all this about Chaos Dwarfs? Have I followed the thread religiously for months only for the thing I'm most excited about to be confirmed on the one weekend I wasn't online? Or is it just speculating based on a contents page? Its hard to tell without reading more than ten pages by the looks of things?

Magmadroth has always been weird. It originally cost £60 if i recall correctly, so when the Start Collecting set came out at £50 it was cheaper than the original kit. Everyone stopped buying the original kit, and it got replaced with the SC set. Of course the price eventually crept back up to above it's original level, but that took a while.

Its risky to read too much into the Chaos Iconography, since that's basically the same between AoS and 40K. An eight pointed star could easily be for either, or both.

I've just grabbed the last few that I wanted. I've never had any interest in playing underworlds, but I love the warbands just as painting projects, and have made quite a few over the years as little tasters of armies that I like. I was very excited at the prospect of being able to use them in Warcry.

Why must they tempt me with so many big boxes? I still haven't saved up for Thondia yet!

2 Battalion boxes formed the core of my Lizardmen, Tomb Kings, and Dwarf armies back in the day. They were the perfect way to fairly rapidly get into WFB after years of just collecting LotR and 40K.

2 Battalion boxes formed the core of my Lizardmen, Tomb Kings, and Dwarf armies back in the day. They were the perfect way to fairly rapidly get into WFB after years of just collecting LotR and 40K.

I think what's thrown me most about this is that its basically shot down a lot of our tactic assumptions about the function Underworlds warbands conceptually serve in the wider ecosystem of the game. When talking about rumours we often speculate that underworlds is a good way for them to do a "stealth" refresh of something from the main game: Hunter and frostsabres are both old kits which presumably sell badly, so they bring out an underworlds band with newer sculpts for both. DoK heroes are locked in a big warmachine kit... now you can get a hag queen in an underworlds band too. Its seemed like a great way to gradually shift away from the older resin models, and add a lot more variety to the ranges in the process. The fact that an underworlds set has for a long time been the same price as a single hero didn't hurt either. The fact that they are not scraping them, however temporarily, suggests that we were wrong. They really don't see these models as being anything but pieces for a spinoff game, with the token stats that they tend to give everything in the name of cross compatibility. I probably shouldn't be surprised, since they've never officially said anything else. But, I'm sure I'm not the only one who this is catching off guard. The really weird thing is that they literally just released warcry stats for all these models. Its like the canons all over again, where one hand doesn't seem to know what the other is doing.

Thanks for confirming. Hopefully they stick around till payday. I've just been planning to try out the warcry rules for these, and as a xenos player over in 40k thus could be a pricey month. At least I think I'm close to having all the AoS finecast I'm ever going to want at this stage, so they can do what they want with that!

Yikes, thanks for bringing this to our attention, there are a couple in there I'll want ti get. I'd hoped they wouldn't need to do this, as they're quite happy to just squat fantasy stuff they no longer want to make, so I thought everything in danger of being rotated was probably gone already. I guess not... With LotR amd now 40k they always set a deadline for When the models will go, and honour orders up to that point even if it means casting a few more. Did they specify that in the email you got?

As I've said earlier in the thread, there are a ton of AoS units which could be used as is in TOW. I would be astonished if the refreshed vampires weren't designed with a view to half the army being something new for AoS, while the other half were classic Vampire Counts for TOW. It doesn't really make sense to make two versions of say, blood knights, with minimal differences, when you can sell one kit to two player bases. However, GW being GW, I do worry whether they will let me use the same specific models for both games. I can't see them saying "you can't use blood knights for TOW" but I can absolutely see them saying "you must buy two boxes of blood knights and base them differently, or paint them in different colour schemes if you want to use them for both games". Thankfully, even if they do come up with stupid regulations like that, its a table top game and we're free to ignore them.

Nice! Do the Mods know what happened, or is it a mystery?

Who else was getting rumour withdrawl? I didn't think I was that obsessed, but I miss being able to see what everyone thinks about things! I'm surprised the new underworlds set is coming out so soon, but had no way to talk about it!

The Realmslayer: blood of the old world radio play features Gotrek questing for a portal which will lead him back in time through tje realm o chaos. (To try to rescue Felix from the end times naturally.) Avoiding spoilers, it doesn't have time travelling stormcast though.

Does the army of scantily clad chainmaille bikini elves actually appeal to female audiences though?

It's fine that you don't like it. I don't either especially. But I disagree that it's just a waste of resources. Some folks out there probably think the same in reverse... Why focus on AoS when bloodbowl could be a main game? I'm glad they make lots of different things. Some i like, some I don't, but it broadens tje appeal of the hobby as a whole, and gives more people than ever an avenue to play.

OOh, that's a good price. Which store was that?

That's great. Naiads and Nerieds would be a great way to expand on sylvaneth actually. It keeps the nature spirits vibe, and can have a consistent design language, while adding a whole new dimension and element. They wouldn't be sylvan though.

That's true. I found them suddenly dropping a huge slice of the cities range very upsetting, but while we lost some resin, it was the plastic kits that went which were the big deal. Either way though more warning would have been nice.

After the Skaven, who does have the oldesr minis? Obviously ogors and seraphon have lots of resin, but the sculpts themselves aren't really ancient. 21st century, rather than 20th for the most part. When you step back and look, they're really making some progress at updating things. Does GA death have any resin left now? Maybe just the vargulf? It seems like the others each have one or two resin heavy factions, but its not as common as it was just a couple of years back!

This is the kind of lore sleuthing I like! We know the squats were gone as of 3rd edition, and that's the oldest set of rulebooks I have in any event. So I'm flicking through my 3rd edition core book. The introduction doesn't cite a year, beyond the fact that it is the 41st millenium, and actually dates are sparser on a quick skim than I remembered. However, the date of the final inquisitorial memo at the end of the book is 3928997/M41. As far as I could see in the 2 minutes I've spent on it, that could be the latest date in the book. Now from a 40K fandom wiki we learn that the Era Indomitus begins in 999/M41. The latest event they list are the Plague Wars, which seem to be happening as of 012/M42. I'm not up on 40K lore enough to know whether that is the current date or not, but to me it looks as though a few hundred years have probably passed since 3e. https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Timeline_of_the_Warhammer_40,000_Universe