Malakithe Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 True but he can't be included in the battalion. I'd rather have the 14" move + 18" range + swappable then a daemon prince with no defined role Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Rough draft of a heavy spell hitting artillery list. The LoC could fire off Gateway + Firestorm + something else each turn. The Herald can fire off his personal spell and another. And the Pinks would have more options. I figure this would be a heavy DD using list so the Shaman gets Glimpse. Not so sure on items though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AverageBoss Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 You have room for a unit of Brimstones to make it an even 2000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Ahh that is true. Other then that how does the list look? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Very mixed list here lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DantePQ Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Is is possible to build Competitive list without Pink Horrors as I don't really like their models ? for example something like - LOC, Tzaangor Shaman, Ogroid Mage, Tzaangors,Warriors, Tzaangors on discs ? How will it work ? I was mostly disappointed by Battletome because I wanted badly to start Tzeentch Chaos Warriors army but in new Battletome there are very few option to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AverageBoss Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 8 hours ago, Malakithe said: Ahh that is true. Other then that how does the list look? I like it, and the one you posted after. I think I am going to try something like this for my next 2,000 point game:Allegiance: TzeentchLeaders Lord Of Change (300)- General- Trait: Magical Supremacy - Tzeentch Daemon Hero- Artefact: Pyrofyre Stave - Lore of Change: Bolt of Tzeentch Herald Of Tzeentch On Disc (120)- Staff of Change- Lore of Change: Arcane Transformation Ogroid Thaumaturge (160)- Artefact: Daemonheart - Lore of Fate: Infusion Arcanum Tzaangor Shaman (120)- Lore of Fate: Shield of Fate Gaunt Summoner (100)- Lore of Fate: Glimpse the FutureBattleline 10 x Pink Horrors Of Tzeentch (140)- Lore of Change: Fold Reality 10 x Pink Horrors Of Tzeentch (140)- Lore of Change: Fold Reality 20 x Tzaangors (360)- 4x Pair of Savage Blades- 8x Savage Greatblade- 8x Savage Blade & Arcanite ShieldUnits 10 x Brimstone Horrors Of Tzeentch (40) 6 x Tzaangor Skyfires (320) 3 x Tzaangor Enlightened on Disc (160)Battalions Tzaangor Coven (40)Total: 2000/2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 8 hours ago, DantePQ said: Is is possible to build Competitive list without Pink Horrors as I don't really like their models ? for example something like - LOC, Tzaangor Shaman, Ogroid Mage, Tzaangors,Warriors, Tzaangors on discs ? How will it work ? I was mostly disappointed by Battletome because I wanted badly to start Tzeentch Chaos Warriors army but in new Battletome there are very few option to do so. You can but Tzaangors and Warriors are 180pts per 10 so it adds up quick. Look at my mixed list above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nico Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 The Fatesworn Warband has never looked better. I'm very excited about using it. The rend is massive across the whole Battalion. Can include Acos and Warriors as Battleline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 I was looking at that one too. Looks nice but can't use daemons or Tzaangors so I won't be using it lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Changed up my Cohort list a bit...thoughts? The LoC will be able to fire off Gateway + Firestorm + Unchecked Mutation each turn assuming they don't get unbound. DiscHerald can fire off his weird spell + Bolt...now that's some MW output. With all the major dmg coming from spells I figured the Scribes were required. Then the Pinks all get Fold for coverage mostly to cast it on the Skyfires or Enlightened. And since this will be a heavy hitting ranged list DD will probably be used often so the Shaman gets Glimpse. No idea about items though Allegiance: Tzeentch DaemonLeadersLord Of Change (300)- General- Trait: Arch Sorcerer - Tzeentch Daemon HeroHerald Of Tzeentch On Disc (120)- Staff of ChangeThe Blue Scribes (120)Tzaangor Shaman (120)- Lore of Fate: Glimpse the FutureBattleline10 x Pink Horrors Of Tzeentch (140)10 x Pink Horrors Of Tzeentch (140)10 x Pink Horrors Of Tzeentch (140)1 x Burning Chariots Of Tzeentch (160)Units6 x Tzaangor Skyfires (320)6 x Tzaangor Enlightened on Disc (320)BattalionsDaemon Cohort of Tzeentch (120)Total: 2000/2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete_P Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 I hate to rain on any parades here but the Daemon Cohort of Tzeentch is an older battalion that doesn't have the Tzeentch keyword so i believe it can only be used in a Chaos allegiance list and not a Tzeentch one. Which means all the extra casting is useless because you will run out of spells to cast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete_P Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 So I guess the same would go for Fatesworn Warband Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkiham Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 29 minutes ago, Pete_P said: So I guess the same would go for Fatesworn Warband its fine, taking the battalions grant you the extra keyword in the battalion, so for fatesworn you gain the Everchosen keyword. you don't lose any so as long as everything contains Tzeentch you can still use the Tzeentch allegiance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete_P Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 I hope that's right, but this from the FAQ seems to say otherwise: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Hasn't this been answered somewhere? I need to find where that discussion went Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete_P Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Arkiham said: i so for fatesworn you gain the Everchosen keyword. You actually don't gain the keyword, just the allegiance. In the Sylvaneth and Beastclaw mixed battalions all the models share the allegiance but the Stormcast and Ironjaw models don't gain extra keywords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkiham Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Pete_P said: I hope that's right, but this from the FAQ seems to say otherwise: and if you qualify for multiple ones you can choose which one to pick and still qualify for them all, this is explain in the Tzeentch book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 So my ultimate plan of exploding spell goodness can still work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete_P Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 I still don't think so, this is direct from the battletome, all starting battalions need the tzeentch keyword : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkiham Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 it would seem that, that is correct, which is something i have completely missed. so apologies to all. which also pretty much makes slaves to darkness all but worthless to tzeentch, with the models which provide anything countable on 1 hand until they see some sort of release. the longer time goes on the more i feel that this Tzeentch release was just a wave of the hand by gw to distract us as they punch you in the face with stormcast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 How could we not use StD? Also from what I've heard this new version of SCE is getting its ass kicked by us lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratso Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 This is silly and games workshop will need to clarifying this as the Tzeentch's book was also mean to support mortal Tzeentch armies as well however there are no battalions to use!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete_P Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 You can still use all the Slaves to Darkness units but if we are talking properly competitive lists then the Daemon and Arcanite stuff is considerably better/more effective anyway. As for the overall power level, it's still very good. I'll happily take on the new Stormcast book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratso Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 My Tzeentch Mortals list has been very competitiveness as I have built it around the Fatesworn battalion and the Tzeentch spells. I have posted requests on the official AoS site requesting this to be clarified since the Tzeentch book dropped to no response officially just mixed comment from the community both ways which is really frustrating as I just to play correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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